saynotoNTR

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Sometimes I think that's the issue here.

People think in terms of themselves and their own experiences/outlooks and judge the characters based on them. So someone like yourself who was taught not to ask for help or even accept it has a hard time understanding Maya, and I hope you won't take offence to me saying that.

I think a lot of people judge Maya through this same lense. They don't know what it's like to need help, or have it offered to them, and some people see it as a sign of weakness to need it and/or to accept it and in the most extreme cases, some people will hate a person who they deem as "weak".

But there is nothing inherently wrong with Maya needing help and accepting it from people willing to help her. So many people need a helping hand every once in a while for mild to serious problems, and so often it's because they had support that they are able to grow and become stronger people, because "being independent" doesn't mean having to shut yourself off from help when needed and when offered. If you do that, you might find one day that you'll never get out of a bad predicament.
I think I understand what you mean... about me looking at her situation based on my life experience...
 

dalli_x

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Still a hill you're willing to die on? :cautious:
Legally, it was rape. The MC was tied up and Quinn put his cock in her pussy without the explicit permission of the MC. This constitutes the crime of rape. It doesn't matter how long that lasted.

What Maya did is legally sexual harassment, but it was forced by a third party (Quinn), which leads to extenuating circumstances for Maya.
 

KАRАMBA

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Legally, it was rape. The MC was tied up and Quinn put his cock in her pussy without the explicit permission of the MC. This constitutes the crime of rape. It doesn't matter how long that lasted.

What Maya did is legally sexual harassment, but it was forced by a third party (Quinn), which leads to extenuating circumstances for Maya.
Yes, fuckface can sue. But he won't.
 

Blue Milk

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I think I understand what you mean... about me looking at her situation based on my life experience...
I'll just say, seeing Maya develop this support network is, for me, one of the best things in this game. She's forming bonds with people who are kind, caring, compassionate, and who value her and care for her, something which she has probably been lacking all, if not most of, her life, and she will be so much better off for it in the long run to have all these people around her.

Maya's development overall is, for me, a highlight of this game, particularly in the last 2 episodes. She's really coming out of her shell and it's wonderful to see.
 

lipe2410

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Actually, i don't mind Quinn had give to Maya that list for scanvanger hunt. Thanks to that MC got a nice lewd scene with her and Josy:devilish:

And, above all, without Quinn's list and free tuition rumor, this amazing render probably will never exist
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Thanks for these great moments Quinn:cool:
 

dalli_x

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If you don't ask for help but take it when other people offer it, you're still dragging them into a problem that's none of their business, handsome.
What kind of logic is that?o_O

If I offer my help to someone, I naturally accept the problem of the person I want to help. But with it I decided for me personally, so that the problem concerns me something, because otherwise I would not have offered my help to the other person.:p
 
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KАRАMBA

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I'll just say, seeing Maya develop this support network is, for me, one of the best things in this game. She's forming bonds with people who are kind, caring, compassionate, and who value her and care for her, something which she has probably been lacking all, if not most of, her life, and she will be so much better off for it in the long run to have all these people around her.

Maya's development overall is, for me, a highlight of this game, particularly in the last 2 episodes. She's really coming out of her shell and it's wonderful to see.
Kind and caring ? In BaDIK ?:LOL: Who ? Who are you talking about?
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DanMotta

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I'll have to agree... Quinn is a bitch, but Maya hasn't shown any morals...

There's a line from the MC, when he refuses to have sex with Jade, he says he doesn't give a shit about the Devil's Pledge because he won't do something he doesn't want to just because it's written somewhere that he must.
Even Josy wouldn't do most of things Quinn would tell them to, reason why when Josy appeared, most of the tasks where done by cheating.
They didn't really go through with most of things, because Josy found ways to fake it/cheat.
If people are taking advantage of you and you don't wake up and stand up for yourself, it is not always that you gonna find people to help you out.
You may even find help once or twice, but if they realize you don't do much for yourself, they won't keep doing things to help you either. And that is Maya's situation.
Riona found some help in MC and she is already opening her eyes and standing up for herself. We will see it in future episodes.
 

dalli_x

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I do not know, dude. I usually solve my problems on my own no matter how fucked up they are... my mom told me it's called "being independent". Maybe Maya doesn't know the meaning of that word.
I don't want to offend your mom, and she's partly right. But there can be problems in life that you can't solve without help, because solving the problem requires another person.:D
 

Geralt From Rivia

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There are more than enough Maya fans here, you should know that. I am one myself. I want Josy and Maya for my MC.

Josy is currently the more carefree girl of the two, but that will change from EP10, the signs are there. Just a couple of examples I see regarding Josy.
- Tommy has seen her.
- Josy is afraid of what will happen to her father if Pete finds out about Maya and the MC.
- Iris Moore is also an unknown and her new guy Clive seems like an asshole too.
- What if there are more cameras in the DIK Mansion and various adult movies ended up on the internet. Remember what Tommy said about not getting rid of certain tickets so easily. In EP7, Josy has already voiced to the MC so she doesn't want the label to be a bitch in the first week.
- I wonder what will happen when Sage finds out Josy wasn't completely honest with her about the MC at the HOTs party.

I think with Maya, DPC is the most realistic in terms of the story. Yes, the tuition problem could have been more realistic, but I figure so DPC wasn't so much about that so the whole credit situation is 100% coherent. Much more the problem in itself is realism. Which person did not have problems at the age of 18-19? What person can say that he can solve any problem without the help of others? Maya has asked for help only twice in the entire game. That was in EP7, when she asked the MC. Other than that, she has been offered the help.

But how Maya can be if she didn't have the problem of tuition, we see in EP8 and EP9 strengthened and what I see there is a lively, bright, curious and sexy girl, which is in no way inferior to Josy. But Maya has now the problem and was also close to give up.

But if there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that problems don't go away just because you mentally block them out, you have to problem solve. What did the MC say to Tommy in EP6? When you can't get up off the floor by yourself, you need someone to help you get back up. No one complains so Tommy is such an ass who wanted to leave the DIKs in stitches because of his comfort. But with Maya, they make such a fuss about it. I don't understand.

But I know one thing for me, Josy and Maya are the best girls for my MC, even if there are problems to solve.
But there used to be a lot more Maya fans, I even know some OGs who disappeared and stopped writing. For example, Heycock and several other users have not been seen for a long time. Who were ready to protect Maya from attacks.
You see, I do not hate Maya, but against the background of many LIs, she loses for me. For example Sage, Zoey, Bella, Josy, Quinn, Riona, Lily, Nicole are much more interesting. And we must admit that in Trouple it is Josy who gets more attention analyzing F95.
I agree that Maya got a little better in Ep. 8-9 and not acting like a lady in trouble and a drama queen, she began to change for the better. I don't know what copium Maya took, but at the party she seemed normal in terms of the mental system.
But there is one but. One big BUT and this concerns her look. Maya's skin after smallpox:
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There is only one thing to write about Karen. She is probably lactose intolerant and definitely snacked off the buffet table. In the Rooster JB writes so that actually all his food is not lactose free. Vomiting is one of the symptoms. Maybe that should be taken into consideration the next time Karen is planning a party.
Karen is a party planner? It will be a very quiet party, because she doesn't like when the sound is louder than 44 dB.:ROFLMAO:
 

bZokko1

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Actually, i don't mind Quinn had give to Maya that list for scanvanger hunt. Thanks to that MC got a nice lewd scene with her and Josy:devilish:

And, above all, without Quinn's list and free tuition rumor, this amazing render probably will never exist
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Thanks for these great moments Quinn:cool:
Do wonder how close to this the unforgivable sin of slapping Riona, this was time wise... We kinda knew Quinn slapped in a show of force and discipline, to hide her own insecurities. If the Maya slap is shortly before that is, I forgot about it.
 

dalli_x

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Used the plight ? No. Quinn offered her something. Some kind of option. Maya is a free person, and could refuse if she was required to do something that contradicts her principles. But she agrees. And it's not Quinn's problem, it's Maya's problem.
With an offer, one has the free choice without being subject to any personal pressure. Example: Do I buy this or that roll.

However, Maya is subject to personal pressure, which influences her decision and thus affects her free choice. Thus, Maya's predicament is exploited.

Stephen probably wanted to do the same thing in EP9, but couldn't do it without running the risk of his daughter Sage finding out, and thus probably Jade as well.
 
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