VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

I dont like to create theories. But from what I see. Her strength and changes rely on Josy's actions. Josy being there to support her. Someone like me who has been in that kind of relationship, I know this kind of relationship drains a person. And from what I see, DPC seems to have a lot of life experience. If josy really breaks up with her. I fear she'd even try suicide. She'd not succeed, but she'd try at least. I can't imagine Maya in the situation she is right now, not being with MC or Josy.

In this case, I see Maya's ending like this:

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Oh, I want it to end too, brother. I had such high hopes for Ep 9. But the thing is, despite this being an issue for Maya, DPC does a fabulous job of not really dwelling on it. Yes, it gets brought up a few times when required in the story, but he's given us so many wonderful, happy, sweet, warm, and sexy moments with both Maya and Josy that when playing, you kind of forget what's going on because you're just focusing on them. Or at least, that's how I feel.

There are so many happy memories being made for the 3 of them on the throuple route and I honestly think this relationship is giving Maya so much more strength and belief than if they're not in this relationship. I love these girls so much for their characters as well as their gorgeous bodies and I just connect so much with Maya on a personal level being someone who is also an introvert and has had personal problems in their life that seemed insurmountable.

I know that eventually these problems will resolve, but for now, I'm greatly enjoying the relationship with these 3 and all the happy moments they get to spend with each other just make the other issues melt away from my thoughts, allowing for that enjoyment to take hold.

We like different things, it's okay. I prefer extroverts to introverts. So on the throuple route my favorite is Josy and overall my Tier S is Sage and DIK Zoey. Sage certainly has her introverted moments, but that's about her family and personal feelings, but I like "fire girls".
Zoey is a natural rebel, an outcast and shows it in every possible way, especially outwardly. And she has high social skills, which I really like in people.

 

[DanMotta]

This is not quite correct. The Josy of my MC, does not want to falsify anything on this list. No, she wants to do everything on this list with the MC. The way Josy found was just ingenious. Lubricant for Maya.

But seriously.

No, Maya's problem is so she tries everything she could. I repeat, what she could. Then it got to the point in EP7 where she didn't know what to do and resigned. That's normal human behavior when you hit a low point. That's why the MC says to Tommy in EP6 that sometimes it takes someone to help you get back on your feet.

That's exactly what happens with Maya. When she was down, Sage realized that. Sage in turn didn't know why Maya was down and talks to Josy, the MC and eventually Maya overcomes her introversion and tells Sage everything. This took a lot of overcoming on Maya's part and is rewarded.

Riona stands up for herself in the sense that she has prostituted herself and sells drugs. Wow. Equally amazing I think so it's okay for the MC to help Riona but not when he helps Maya. Wow. Please don't get me wrong. I think it's great that the MC is helping Riona and Riona is going to split with Quinn as a result. But why would the MC let Maya's situation escalate to the point it did with Riona in the first place? Would it then be more right in your eye to help Maya?

I was talking about Riona standing up to Quinn on future episodes after MC's help. She being a prostitute and selling drugs comes from before MC even exist. Do you even read what people are talking before replying to them?

Also, I have nothing against prostitutes. They are real and respected people in my opinion and believe it or not, most of them doesn't even work that much and earns a lot more than you and I will ever earn in our 12h/day jobs.
Many clients can't even fuck a prostitute right. they will cum in 3 minutes and their dicks are so small that they won't even feel it. Besides they have their ways to get their job done without having to do much.
Also, since I am respectful man towards these beautiful ladies, I rather call them escorts, girlfriend for rent, instead of prostitute.
If even Jesus could see the good in a prostitute, why would I be different? I am just following Jesus's path.

 

[dalli_x]

But there used to be a lot more Maya fans, I even know some OGs who disappeared and stopped writing. For example, Heycock and several other users have not been seen for a long time. Who were ready to protect Maya from attacks.
You see, I do not hate Maya, but against the background of many LIs, she loses for me. For example Sage, Zoey, Bella, Josy, Quinn, Riona, Lily, Nicole are much more interesting. And we must admit that in Trouple it is Josy who gets more attention analyzing F95.
I agree that Maya got a little better in Ep. 8-9 and not acting like a lady in trouble and a drama queen, she began to change for the better. I don't know what copium Maya took, but at the party she seemed normal in terms of the mental system.
But there is one but. One big BUT and this concerns her look. Maya's skin after smallpox:

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Karen is a party planner? It will be a very quiet party, because she doesn't like when the sound is louder than 44 dB.

I'm not concerned with the fact that everyone should like Maya. Everyone has to decide that for themselves.

Personally, I think Jill is ugly. She has a horse's ass and therefore fits well with Tybalt's horse head. Sage has a pretty face, but figure I find terrible. The same goes for Isabella. Lily is horny and so is Rose. Sally is cute. As you can read, I too have my personal tastes.

But what I can't stand is for characters (by that I mean all of them, not just Maya) to be denigrated by false statements. I mean leaving out written facts. Please do not confuse with theories, because theories extend written facts by a possibility which are not known yet.

 

[WhiteWolf35Uk]

thanks Jumbi

 

[WhiteWolf35Uk]

thanks Jumbi

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I'm not concerned with the fact that everyone should like Maya. Everyone has to decide that for themselves.

Personally, I think Jill is ugly. She has a horse's ass and therefore fits well with Tybalt's horse head.

Take five, bro. Remember - No Jill.

Sage has a pretty face, but figure I find terrible. The same goes for Isabella. Lily is horny and so is Rose. Sally is cute. As you can read, I too have my personal tastes.

Sage is very beautiful to me, although I like medium sized breasts. Bella... well, you understand, the same thing. She's too caricatured as a porn MILF. I don't like it when mature women in AVN are portrayed as milk machines. Cathy in this matter looks the most realistic.

 

[Raziel_8]

The Internet is a dark place full of horrors, compassion is a rare guest here.

We do have compassion and are willing to help the girls, like Riona, Nicole, Lily, Quinn etc.
(and yeah, i hope Maya commits suicide, i can't stand her)

I spoke in her defense a little earlier

 

[Darx321]

Maya is like a wounded puppy

I hope I didn't wake up the neighbors

I think so the stun gun thing has a different meaning. The MC got into it with the strongest guy (Chad) in college on the first day of college. That definitely stood out. In EP1 Jacob told Rusty so that's the guy (MC) who messed with Chad in the cafeteria. Not even Tommy has done that since he's been in college. That's what Rusty says.

If someone does that, they are either stupid or else, the person knows so they can pass. Quinn is just playing it safe with the stun gun because if the latter is true, three girls couldn't tame a guy like that.

Well, that makes sense. You're probably right.

I think people really underestimate the position she was in and what people will do when really desperate.

Maya is like a wounded puppy that people are throwing shit at, and it's tiresome having to deal with people who so often show a complete lack of understanding, compassion, and empathy for her character. It's enough to completely destroy any shred of faith you might have in humanity to see people who seemingly have none.

I can understand Maya.
She's not really a difficult character to understand.

But I don't think her problem is that terrible. To have everyone running around her.
She has a great brother, apparently far from a poor family. The only thing is a rather childish problem with her "girlfriend". But first of all she's obviously overreacting, hiding her college relationship, even if her father would come over occasionally is not a problem. HOTs like I wrote before would be perfect for that, and it's trivial to find someone to pretend to be your boyfriend to make dad happy.

Secondly her father obviously loves and cares for her, although not in the best way. However, I think that if she really pressed, her father would rather tolerate her relationship with Josy than "ruin" her life. After all she also has something to threaten him with, she could have said that if he cut off her money with this contract she would go to work for Lily.

Not to mention the fact that she might very well use "legal" methods as well, because this sort of blackmail from her father is clearly illegal.

Besides, she's not even gay, she just hasn't met MC before

In any case, her problems are really not a big deal!

Compared to even the other characters: the most obvious example is Quinn. Do you really think that Quinn has a better situation than Maya? What about Riona? Lily?

But they've all found a solution.
Good or bad.
It doesn't matter.

They're strong, and I respect them for that.
Maya, on the other hand... is weak.
And she gets a lot of undeserved attention and pity.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

We do have compassion and are willing to help the girls, like Riona, Nicole, Lily, Quinn etc.
(and yeah, i hope Maya commits suicide, i can't stand her)

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I was young and drunk

 

[Blue Milk]

In all seriousness, I'm quite a vocal Maya shitposter.
But I say this in all seriousness: I respect you.
I respect everyone that stays true to himself and what he likes.

I appreciate that, I really do.

The HUGE problem with Maya and Josy is without MC they are doomed.
And when MC is the ONLY THING that holds them together, and the girls are not right for each other...not a pretty sight.
The support structure she has is only through the girls MC hangs around with.
She is forced in every route now almost.
Her brother is pretty much useless in helping her.
Specially since even on others route, Josy is chasing MC still. Prepping a dagger to Maya's back.
It's ok to have some drama, but DPC forced way too much drama in that route.
And some of us are hella tired of it.
If I wanted that kind of drama, I'd watch The OC, Gossip Girls and similar shit.

See I actually don't mind all of this because, as I've said, the nice moments outweigh all this tenfold, from my perspective.

I also think the other paths are way too easy and require almost no effort to achieve them, save for a couple of choices.

With M&J, their struggles, I feel, bring a lot of depth to this relationship because irl, all relationships have issues, and how you deal with that and whether you focus on them and allow them to occupy your every thought will determine how it goes. I'd even go so far as to say that DPC puts more effort into their path than any others, possibly because he cares a lot about it himself and wants to make something that's quite deep and compelling.

I choose to focus on the good moments, the happy moments, the sweet and warm moments, and I just focus on them and their characters rather than what's going on around, which honestly doesn't occupy all the time with them. I'm not saying that if I stopped doing it and focused on all the perceived negatives I'd change my mind because I wouldn't, I love these girls too damn much at this point, just that this is how I kind of naturally approach. And in talking about this game in other places, I've actually been able to convert a few people to at least liking Maya & Josy, if not fully stanning them, by extolling the virtues of this approach to just shut off all the external stuff and just focus on them, to read what they say, to absorb the meaning in their words, to look at the expressions, etc.

I don't think it will work so well here and I'm not trying to get people to do it, but I do think people focus too much on perceived negative aspects and therefore close themselves off too much.

 

[kioryu52]

All right, I've finally played all routes of this game, and can finally give my current review...

First off, let's not kid ourselves: this is the greatest porn game ever made. Easily. That's not up for debate. Content-wise, porn-wise, story-wise, girl-wise, all of it. Summer's Gone is amazing, and if it ever gets completed, it might even compete with BaDIK, but that won't happen for a long, long, long time, if ever. Eternum rocks, and some others, but they simply can't compete with this. BaDIK is fucking huge, man. You love the characters, their stories, how they intertwine, how it'll all go down...everything.

And that's a huge fucking achievement. To a porn game get this big, and this well-known? Man, I can't even explain how insane that is. I love this game more than I love a whole lot of ps5 games I have.

With that out of the way, do I believe this game might be getting a bit too big for itself?

Abso-fucking-lutely.

As Daddy Noel Deyzel says, let me explain:

I have read no reviews for chapter 9, so if I'm just repeating what others have said, I'm truly sorry!

But my dudes, if I never see the DIK mansion again, it'll be too soon. I remember my first playthrough of chapter 9, as soon as it came out, and holy fuck, man... I was getting actively anxious due to never getting out of there. I felt trapped, man. There are over 5000 renders in this chapter, but the chapter in itself is at the same time very repetitive due to some mind-numbing activities (haunted house, grab this, talk to that), and also not quite as long as it would appear? Don't get me wrong, this was stretched to it's absolute max. There was way too much party and not enough character interaction. Not enough of other evironments. Everyone is kinda in their own corner and don't have many interactions, unless it's directly with MC, and even then. It's even commented by MC, how he couldn't really spend too much time with anyone.

Also, let's be honest, there are routes that are way better than others. I did not think it possible, but whatever the hell was up with the Jill-route in chapter 9 made me have the opposite of what a boner is.

Seriously man, a banana? And I actually quite liked Jill until then, but my god... I cringed the entire chapter. Not good at all.

Sage's route felt kinda...off? I had no strong feelings about it, dunno if that was intentional.

Bella's route was great, and she was sexy as all fuck. What can I say, I love me some (quite possibly) evil milf, man. Next chapter will sure have some major shit going down. And I love hot women with masks,so...

Josy & Maya's was probably the sweetest route. Really, really cute and nice. My favorite of the main ones.

However, the true best was the "others." It's the one that's most true to the idea of the game. It has the most of characters interacting, the most intriguing moments, especially with Quinn, due to her not being just "so in love with you" and actually having a character-arc and motivations, and an agenda, something this game sorely lacks so far, besides whatever's happening with Bella possible psychosis.

As a side-note, Zoe was, in retropesct, kind of a wet-blanket, no? She had some good scenes, but nothing major this chapter...yet. Really proves the interlude had no major impact in the story. But maybe that will change!

It's funny, when I began playing this, I fucked up so many relationships, man...It left me pretty much with only Sage, and the others, and even Sage's probably gonna sail soon enough, due to all the hanky-panky I did with her mommy. But! When I replayed this game...I did it all over again. Because that was the truest route of them all. We don't get everything. We fuck up. We screw things. Intentionally or not. We don't always get a happy ending. I chose Quinn as my main playthrough, and I will chase her as far as these legs can carry me, until the day they can't no more.

Anyways, it's a 10/10 game. But it may be the first-ever case where it's too much of a 10/10, if that makes sense?

Now, while we wait until the next chapter, I believe it to be most important to say this...be your own MC. Go to the gym. Train. Learn new skills. Improve on the ones you have. Go out, go party, try new things. And don't give up. Ever.

WE GO GYM!

 

[Jumbi]

thanks Jumbi

You're welcome.

 

[dalli_x]

Maya has been Selfish many times. She often victimizes herself. There are a lot of maya personality that I observe and I don't like than just the problems she deals with. And things that I also don't discuss anymore because it is pointless.

Some people will like girls like her and others won't. We are both in opposite sides of this matter.

And I know wounded puppies, I've had people in my life just like her, that you would spend a lot of energy trying to help, sometimes giving them a direction that you would be there to support, but they wouldn't take it and that would drain the life out of you. SO what you may call not having empathy, I call not wasting time with lost causes. But ofc, DPC can decide to rewrite her in a totally different way from now on and who knows if when that happens I won't make a new route and become her white knight.

Exactly because of what you write, Blue Milk is right.

Give examples of the many times Maya was selfish that are not refutable. Go ahead.

Maya is not making herself a victim, Maya is a victim. Of Patrick and Quinn. Patrick punishes his own daughter for loving a girl and Quinn takes advantage of Maya financial situation. For her fun and that Maya should earn money for her in the restaurant as a prostitute.

 

[WhiteWolf35Uk]

You're welcome.

one last question.... i most rename persistent in that name i mean this one Transfer_Data.zip from renpy folder where are others saves?

 

[WhiteWolf35Uk]

You're welcome.

one last question.... i most rename persistent in that name i mean this one Transfer_Data.zip from renpy folder where are others saves?

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Maya as a personality I think is quite appealing. I don't get all the hatred for her, but I'm going to posit a couple of theories as to why so many on this forum seem to dislike her.

One issue is that she is saddled with this not-quite-intelligible problem wherein she needs money to pay for tuition (though she's already in school) and to be independent. Dropping out and getting a job or something is out of the question because she wants to stay at B&R with Derek, Josy, and the MC. On the surface I get it but the details elude me or seem not as insurmountable as she feels they are. I mean, if all she has to do is deceive her father, then it seems easy enough for her to do that. But her situation's true purpose is to serve as a plot device, which is to tie one of the LIs (Maya) into Quinn's prostitution ring. Maya has to worry about it because DPC wants to have this as a foreboding issue in the game. It's not a crazy idea, as a plot device (especially for a porn game), and Maya is the unfortunate character whose fortunes can be connected to it, as contrived as it is.

When we see Maya not focused on her issue, she seems extremely likable. She loves horror movies, has a good sense of humor, enjoys a good party, dancing, and is discovering her wild side. What's not to like?

This brings me to the other theory about why I think some just don't like her, which is that she's a self-labeled feminist and wavering lesbian and the anonymity afforded us here allows some players to revel openly in their misogyny. Even if she was a happy-go-lucky girl without a care in the world, those players would hate her because...well, because they hate her.

I acknowledge that some point to her lying to the MC about her relationship with Josy as evidence that she is a horrible person, but it's clear in the game that she wanted to come clean about it, just as Josy did. She simply was scared to reveal the truth, for reasons we may not like but for reasons that in the game are quite valid for her. At worst, I would say she might not be someone you'd want to date, but hating her is unjustified.

She's not a real person, so it feels weird to say I feel sorry for her to be getting so much hate. She's not even an actress who has to deal with nutcases who can't distinguish fiction from reality when they see her at the grocery store or something, but it's hard for me not to feel a tad pissed off when people go on and on about how horrible she is. If she were a real person, the worst you could say about her is that she's young and naive.

 

[soiboi6669]

Anyone else's favorite girl Nicole? The thing I notice in so many relationships is they start off fun and passionate, but slow down, especially after kids, and get way more mundane. Yeah all these girls are fun and adventurous now, but you never what the future holds or how these girls will change as they grow up. Nicole on the other hand is already a full on adult with a kid, but she's still wild and loves to party and manages to balance that with work and childcare. Theres no wondering about who she truly is or who she'll become or how big life milestones might change her. And to me that's wildly attractive. She's the best of both worlds. Kinky freak in the bed like Lily, but she's also more emotionally mature and looking for something deeper in addition to that. I really hope the relationship with her gets more developed in future updates.

 

[Blue Milk]

Secondly her father obviously loves and cares for her, although not in the best way. However, I think that if she really pressed, her father would rather tolerate her relationship with Josy than "ruin" her life. After all she also has something to threaten him with, she could have said that if he cut off her money with this contract she would go to work for Lily.

Her father is deeply religious. These people do not bend so easily from their beliefs, especially when they are so deeply rooted, so there will be surely be no reasoning with him. His "love" is deeply misplaced as it is clearly based in religious dogma and bigotry. He is trying to control her through his beliefs, and that is not love, that is simply control, and these 2 things are not the same.

Maya has no leverage over Patrick here. If she defaults on the loan, she is lumbered with the debt and thensome and Patrick will not care about putting that burden on her. So she really is caught between a rock and a hard place here, and I'm sure we'll see more of Patrick's ugly side (which is his only side) when the MC meets him again.

Josy & Maya's was probably the sweetest route. Really, really cute and nice. My favorite of the main ones.

 

[lipe2410]

Maya as a personality I think is quite appealing. I don't get all the hatred for her, but I'm going to posit a couple of theories as to why so many on this forum seem to dislike her.

One issue is that she is saddled with this not-quite-intelligible problem wherein she needs money to pay for tuition (though she's already in school) and to be independent. Dropping out and getting a job or something is out of the question because she wants to stay at B&R with Derek, Josy, and the MC. On the surface I get it but the details elude me or seem not as insurmountable as she feels they are. I mean, if all she has to do is deceive her father, then it seems easy enough for her to do that. But her situation's true purpose is to serve as a plot device, which is to tie one of the LIs (Maya) into Quinn's prostitution ring. Maya has to worry about it because DPC wants to have this as a foreboding issue in the game. It's not a crazy idea, as a plot device (especially for a porn game), and Maya is the unfortunate character whose fortunes can be connected to it, as contrived as it is.

When we see Maya not focused on her issue, she seems extremely likable. She loves horror movies, has a good sense of humor, enjoys a good party, dancing, and is discovering her wild side. What's not to like?

This brings me to the other theory about why I think some just don't like her, which is that she's a self-labeled feminist and wavering lesbian and the anonymity afforded us here allows some players to revel openly in their misogyny. Even if she was a happy-go-lucky girl without a care in the world, those players would hate her because...well, because they hate her.

I acknowledge that some point to her lying to the MC about her relationship with Josy to evidence that she is a horrible person, but it's clear in the game that she wanted to come clean about it, just as Josy did. She simply was scared to reveal the truth, for reasons we may not like but for reasons that in the game are quite valid for her. At worst, I would say she might not be someone you'd want to date, but hating her is unjustified.

She's not a real person, so it feels weird to say I feel sorry for her to be getting so much hate. She's not even an actress who has to deal with nutcases who can't distinguish fiction from reality when they see her at the grocery store or something, but it's hard not for me to feel a tad pissed off when people go on and on about how horrible she is. If she were a real person, the worst you could say about her is that she's young and naive.

Bloody hell, Maya is so awesome that she made OWH come from his grave right to this thread.