DanKaye519

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Nowhere in the game does it say what the true goals are. It's an assumption.
It's true but I was trying to avoid posting a spoiler if you didn't complete S2. Anyway, she obviously raised her prices because she got jumped and punched and had her drugs stolen.

But you're right. There hasn't been an explanation as to why she needs money. But even so, bullying Riona and the pledges into prostitution and dealing drugs isn't noble no matter how you to try to spin it.
 

laudano93

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I believe that is correct but you need to consider each event when it happens (affinity can change over time).

You can't have DIK affinity at the moment you choose to fight for Jill, which is the condition that triggers if Jill invites you later.
At that point you cannot have CHICK affinity or Quinn will reject you.

I haven't played the game in a while so I'm not sure if you have enough time to switch affinity in between, but strictly speaking you don't need pure NEUTRAL but certainly have to sway close to it.
Thanks for your answer.

I know you need the no-DIK Afinity check at the moment you chose "Fight for Jill". Otherwise, her lewd scene won't trigger and she won"t invite you to dinner.

However, I made some tests with Sancho Mod. Even when I got succesfully her lewd scene at EP7, if you switch to DIK Aff at the moment in the library, she won't invite you either. If I preserve my CHICK Aff (given that I got her lewd scene) Jill invites me, but the scene after with Quinn doesn't show.

I don't know if it's a problem with the mod or if it's really that way. In that case, the only way I found to get the rejection scene with Quinn was to switch to NEUTRAL vía mod. But it surprises me because it seems a scene that many people get in their PT.
 

chuck69

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at the moment BaD is just American Pie level, he can make it better or stick with a plain teen comedy. It's in his hands.
He does not have to worry about his future VNs because he can retire when BaD ends.
as orgitas already said, it is 1 of the films that inspired the game. granted, its low brow dick and fart jokes. but the imapct it had at the time was pretty big. there are multiple terms it either created or at least put into common use. "milf", or "one time at band camp" just start the list. it also gave us our first look at joshy (before maya made him a lesbian)
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"just american pie" ........how dare you sir! :ROFLMAO:
 

chuck69

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Yeah that's where he got his inspiration from and wants to keep it sort of like that. Nothing too out there, nothing too dark (like AL). Just a kid's first year in college and the antics he got up to. The story doesn't need to be Dostoevsky in quality. It is what it is and we love it!
the intravenous drugs that i thought were gone but brought back in ep9, now gun play. i expect it to get a lot darker, but will enjoy it either way dpc goes
 

KАRАMBA

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But even so, bullying Riona and the pledges into prostitution and dealing drugs isn't noble no matter how you to try to spin it.
Well, you're touching on a very controversial topic. What do we even mean by the word nobility? It is known that this term was originally used in relation to the patrician houses of the Roman Empire.
Representatives of these houses, being very influential people, often owned brothels. Yes, this was practiced. Later, with the spread of Christianity, this term acquired some moral meaning. However, as before, it was mainly used to indicate position in the social hierarchy.
Noble people were mainly called representatives of the aristocracy. We can recall quite a few noble gentlemen whose actions may seem to us today in some way reprehensible.
After the Reformation, as far as is known, this term began to be used not only in relation to the aristocracy and clergy, but also in relation to the most successful business executives, entrepreneurs, and masters of art. Among which we can also easily find examples of people with ambiguous biography.
Why am I saying this?! Because if you really, without hypocrisy, look at the facts, then you need to recognize a simple fact - a successful person who has taken place in life will be called noble. And the way it was done won't matter too much. I mean if Quinn can succeed, she will be a successful businesswoman and noble member of society.
 

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Well, you're touching on a very controversial topic. What do we even mean by the word nobility? It is known that this term was originally used in relation to the patrician houses of the Roman Empire.
Representatives of these houses, being very influential people, often owned brothels. Yes, this was practiced. Later, with the spread of Christianity, this term acquired some moral meaning. However, as before, it was mainly used to indicate position in the social hierarchy.
Noble people were mainly called representatives of the aristocracy. We can recall quite a few noble gentlemen whose actions may seem to us today in some way reprehensible.
After the Reformation, as far as is known, this term began to be used not only in relation to the aristocracy and clergy, but also in relation to the most successful business executives, entrepreneurs, and masters of art. Among which we can also easily find examples of people with ambiguous biography.
Why am I saying this?! Because if you really, without hypocrisy, look at the facts, then you need to recognize a simple fact - a successful person who has taken place in life will be called noble. And the way it was done won't matter too much. I mean if Quinn can succeed, she will be a successful businesswoman and noble member of society.
But is Quinn successful?
 

chuck69

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Well, you're touching on a very controversial topic. What do we even mean by the word nobility? It is known that this term was originally used in relation to the patrician houses of the Roman Empire.
Representatives of these houses, being very influential people, often owned brothels. Yes, this was practiced. Later, with the spread of Christianity, this term acquired some moral meaning. However, as before, it was mainly used to indicate position in the social hierarchy.
Noble people were mainly called representatives of the aristocracy. We can recall quite a few noble gentlemen whose actions may seem to us today in some way reprehensible.
After the Reformation, as far as is known, this term began to be used not only in relation to the aristocracy and clergy, but also in relation to the most successful business executives, entrepreneurs, and masters of art. Among which we can also easily find examples of people with ambiguous biography.
Why am I saying this?! Because if you really, without hypocrisy, look at the facts, then you need to recognize a simple fact - a successful person who has taken place in life will be called noble. And the way it was done won't matter too much. I mean if Quinn can succeed, she will be a successful businesswoman and noble member of society.
as the founder of quinnology, im not sure how to rate your following of her teachings. you do come out strong! when confronted directly, side step and redirect. very quinn move, you did this well. however, theres no way quinn would engage in this debate with anything other than hysterically pointing and laughing at those that expect her to give a damn about their view on morals or nobility. an even more likely response is to hit the hooka, smile, and contemplate if a sense of nobility will shield their ass from her strap on.
 

KАRАMBA

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however, theres no way quinn would engage in this debate with anything other than hysterically pointing and laughing at those that expect her to give a damn about their view on morals or nobility. an even more likely response is to hit the hooka, smile, and contemplate if a sense of nobility will shield their ass from her strap on.
It's so unfair...
So unfair. :(
There are things that cannot be ignored.
For example, the highest intellectual level of the Divine Quinn.
 
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KАRАMBA

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She at least a year into this took on a lot of girls and put herself in a deep hole also thanks to Maya might have destroy everything she was trying build
I repeat - it’s too early to judge. Yes, perhaps she took some wrong steps due to haste. But I'm sure she will overcome this and turn it to her advantage.
 

Darkwen

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I repeat - it’s too early to judge. Yes, perhaps she took some wrong steps due to haste. But I'm sure she will overcome this and turn it to her advantage.
To do that Quinn has to admit she was wrong that not something we see from her apart from talking to Tommy at the end of EP9
 

lukrame

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quinn reminds me of some methhead chick when i use to live in the midwest. Not my fav. But i can sorta see why people like her.
 

chuck69

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She at least a year into this took on a lot of girls and put herself in a deep hole also thanks to Maya might have destroy everything she was trying build
theres a reason for the term "pimpin aint easy". but shes doing it. and she doing it while running a drug ring, becoming hots vp, and doing well enough educationally to still be a student at B&R. if you take your bias of the business's out of the equation, its pretty impressive.
 
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laudano93

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Well, you're touching on a very controversial topic. What do we even mean by the word nobility? It is known that this term was originally used in relation to the patrician houses of the Roman Empire.
Representatives of these houses, being very influential people, often owned brothels. Yes, this was practiced. Later, with the spread of Christianity, this term acquired some moral meaning. However, as before, it was mainly used to indicate position in the social hierarchy.
Noble people were mainly called representatives of the aristocracy. We can recall quite a few noble gentlemen whose actions may seem to us today in some way reprehensible.
After the Reformation, as far as is known, this term began to be used not only in relation to the aristocracy and clergy, but also in relation to the most successful business executives, entrepreneurs, and masters of art. Among which we can also easily find examples of people with ambiguous biography.
Why am I saying this?! Because if you really, without hypocrisy, look at the facts, then you need to recognize a simple fact - a successful person who has taken place in life will be called noble. And the way it was done won't matter too much. I mean if Quinn can succeed, she will be a successful businesswoman and noble member of society.
Dude. C'mon. Nowadays, the meaning of "noble" has almost nothing to do with what it meant on past centuries. At least not in my country (I'm from latinoamerica).

I think when people says Quinn actions are not "noble" they are trying to say "not morally good". That's the point that matters. The rest is just a semantic game.
 

Orgitas

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Morally, ethically, and legally Quinn's actions are not good. If caught she would likely get kicked out of College and arrested. Indicted on charges of drug dealing and sex trafficking and some coercion charges, too. Those are not the actions of a noble person, quite the opposite.
 

KАRАMBA

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Dude. C'mon. Nowadays, the meaning of "noble" has almost nothing to do with what it meant on past centuries. At least not in my country (I'm from latinoamerica).

I think when people says Quinn actions are not "noble" they are trying to say "not morally good". That's the point that matters. The rest is just a semantic game.
Oh no, no. It's just your point of view. Just because you see it that way doesn't mean it's true for everyone. And I'm not lying, no. To put it bluntly, such a thing as a “moral point of view” is itself a very controversial thing.
 
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