ChipLecsap

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For me that's weird that Maya still treat Patrick good and even feels something for him. She panicked when MC hit Patrick and became worried about him. She too kind.
The pragmatic approach is clear to me - Patrick is useful because he takes care of Helen and is the only one who earns money in the family. But I can’t understand this emotional attachment to him; with Derek it’s even more pronounced. Guys, your father has turned into a monster.
well, abused victims often try to find excuses for their abusers especially if they are family related persons.
Derek crying at the end , said everything I needed to know
 

ciberma7865

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I doubt that Josy life is all Miss Sunshine. Every character is damaged in this game one way or another, Josy just simply didnt get the spotlight yet to explore it.
it took us 10 episode to finally see the whole picture with Derek and Maya
We do know that Josy as a lot of anxiety, about her height and how people see her in general. With ep 10 we are now sure that she "hide" a part of her past (she doesn't want to show old photo of herself)
 

Geralt From Rivia

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well, abused victims often try to find excuses for their abusers especially if they are family related persons.
Derek crying at the end , said everything I needed to know
Stockholm Syndrome. Quite possibly a defensive reaction of one’s own mind.

I have more respect for Derek after this update... although he acts a little cringe in other ways.
 

ChipLecsap

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We do know that Josy as a lot of anxiety, about her height and how people see her in general. With ep 10 we are now sure that she "hide" a part of her past (she doesn't want to show old photo of herself)
that's not what I get form it, but sure. :ROFLMAO:
 

Raphael77

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Stockholm Syndrome. Quite possibly a defensive reaction of one’s own mind.

I have more respect for Derek after this update... although he acts a little cringe in other ways.
Is always easier to judge when standing from the outside with our own standards and life experiences, "things have to work like that", but you're not really at the best spot to view the whole situation. you only get one family, you don't know everything that happened, how it evolved, no one is ever perfect and indeed you can tend to relativize and balance things out, it's no stockholm syndrome, as derek himself says at the end, he "doesn't except you to understand", but is not as easy as a black or white answer
 

Krytax123

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He's clearly religious as is shown him praying and "talking" with his "entity" in his job. Actually, in the end of Episode 10, it looks like his wife has lost faith.

But I agree with second part ("And of course..."). Imagine being like this for about 15 years...
It was shown in the beginning (as helen was still well) that he wasnt religious at all while she was. His prayer wasnt really sincere and more like a last hope action as he felt entirely hopeless at this point imo. And him carrying on the torch of being religious is imo not really his own belief and more the devotion for his wife.

There isnt much left of the woman he loved in general, the woman he loved was deeply religious and careing, while helen nowadays has lost faith and tells him stuff like he wasnt her true love (try to cope with that while sacrificing your whole life for someone..) due to her sickness.

I may relate to him and his struggels kinda, my grandmother was a sweet and careing women too until she got dementia, afterwards she became really mean to her two daughters (my mom and aunt) which was really hard to cope with for them even knowing its the sickness speaking. And enduring something like that every day for 15 years? That just destroys you, maybe thats why i give him some slack (like maja and derek do too).

I really liked the mc's neutral direction. Shouting at patrick is fine and maybe even helps to make him realise his abusive behavior towards maya being confronted with it by someone from outside. While punching him .. yeah nah ..
 

C0atal

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How does one bring up the Console?
To open the Console in Ren'py press CTRL+O and select commands could be used to change variables, etc
but it must first be enabled in the ren'py system files that the game uses, as it is off by default
to enable this you need to open the game folder, and you will see a ren'py folder, open this and you will see a 00console.rpy file open this, in notepad if you have nothing else, or ideally Atom so it understands the script
scroll down and you will see:
# If true, the console is enabled despite config.developer statement being False.
config.console = False

change this to True, and save the file, and the console will then be enabled


but an easier method for most people i think would be to use a save file editor like last moments here on f95

"https://f95zone.to/threads/renpy-save-editor-v1-6-1-last-moment.6456/

you can simply open any existing save and change details, in this case to deactivate minigames, type "mini" into search, and untick search filters, there are 2 minigame variables just change them both to false, from true and apply changes
then reload the save and the minigames are gone
can also be used to change affinity/relation points, and money amounts
 

Valithor

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There's actually some skill/tactics involved in manipulating your chances and AP gain. E.g. one very effective strategy to win is to use "Focus" command for a number of rounds, to significantly raise your chance of landing even the basic hits, and then instead of Rest you'd need for the more advanced moves repeatedly using Distract to absolutely destroy your opponent's chances to hit anything.
Imho taunting is the best strategy. Open with arc, taunt the shit out of your opponent and use the free ball. (I usually leave them below 50% on arc, and then alternate between focus taunt and rest), never lost with this strat, i fell like taunt is a bit too strong. (Or I'm being lucky)
 

ffive

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I think differences between each paths are marginal this time. After choosing one path (girl/girls) it lacks "this thing" which was there since beginning, freedom maybe. Sticking to one path causes much less casual interaction with other girls (which earlier was leading to sex in most scenarios) and this takes a lot from the story. Earlier because of whoring around MC talked with a lot of people, it was more alive to me, now being faithful to one there is barely any interests in others life like theirs lifes are exclusive for chosen path. I don't see reason not to visit Bella or check HOTs house with Sage or Camila or whoever. I understand being faithful or whatever but it doesn't seem we cannot interact with any other girl we choose and it doesn't need lead to sex. We can just be casual friend right?
This is, unfortunately pretty typical for VNs which make the player choose their RO eventually -- the "common route" features all potential candidates and has a lot of interactions with everyone, and then once the player chooses it is like you say, other characters largely disappear, and the route becomes limited to just the chosen character.

I have similar dislike for it, although BaDIK at least for the time being isn't so bad in this regard, with Isabella/Jill and Josy/Maya interactions (plus the whole Maya Mission Impossible plot) no matter what path the player is on.
 

ffive

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How do you punch him and get the contract... :unsure:

I didn't got that option when I punched him... :WaitWhat:
You can get up to 6 "Patrick dislike" points before you blow your chances.

Punching him is 5 points. As long as MC made perfect first impression earlier in the game, didn't taunt Patrick during dinner, didn't get caught upstairs (and, to be safe, didn't tell Josy about Chad, so he's visiting as just a friend rather than boyfriend) he should be in the clear.
 

Krytax123

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Another kinda interessting similarity between sage and jade:

They both kinda hated their husband/boyfriend yet got really angry and pissed when steven and chad did broke up with them. In steven's case even with giving her 50% of the millions he supposedly has earned.

In both cases the guys feel relieved its "finally over" while Sage and Jade have kinda self-destroying tendencys and would maybe have stayed in these relationships forever while hating their partner
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Is always easier to judge when standing from the outside with our own standards and life experiences, "things have to work like that", but you're not really at the best spot to view the whole situation. you only get one family, you don't know everything that happened, how it evolved, no one is ever perfect and indeed you can tend to relativize and balance things out, it's no stockholm syndrome, as derek himself says at the end, he "doesn't except you to understand", but is not as easy as a black or white answer
Don't tell me things, my family went through a similar ordeal many years ago (I won’t go into details) and no one became an abuser or a domestic tyrant. If the current situation makes it normal for Patrick to bully his own daughter, then personally I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for him. And I judge him.
 

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We do know that Josy as a lot of anxiety, about her height and how people see her in general. With ep 10 we are now sure that she "hide" a part of her past (she doesn't want to show old photo of herself)
I kinda hope not... every character so far has some baggage. Josy not THAT much, a little, but nothing out of the ordinary... Parents got divorced... well, it is kinda ordinary these days right? More divorced/seperated parents than not. Got a step-mother she doesnt like and Tommy on top... But yeah, nothing major that should effect her much.

Other than that she is a nice, sweet, funny girl without bigger problems. It seems that way, and in this game, this is kinda refreshing. Everyone has a serious sob-story, well its a soap opera, of course its like that. But i think its a good thing if at least one girl doesnt have that much drama.

But yeah there could very well be some serious issues. It took 10 episodes to see behind the curtain of Maya and Derek. We still dont know much about Bella, and Jills situation is more foggy than not too. It could very well be that she has some serious problems too. I hope not, its enough already.

It would be enough if she would have just the average teenager girl problems, like insecurity about herself and her body, which is a normal thing. And strange as it seems, we dont have that "normal" teenager problem in the game so far, its always over the top drama. Some "normal" problems would be a nice change for once.

On the other side... she has some unique storytelling that seperates her very much from others. But those are only seen in specific routes.

Like the "others - Josy still feelings" route, its way deeper than it is with Maya. And mostly, if you breakup with J&M... Maya overcomes this in an instant... Josy is devasted and it will last a while. OR maybe she even decides to fight for MC just like Jill does if you decide to bew with Bella but dated Jill before? So maybe Josy get some unique routes to make up for the lack of serious background drama. That would be nice.

Personally i dont need serious background drama for a character to create "depth" for that character or a connection... I feel connected with Josy without the drama, its not needed. And especially the Maya drama is dragging out a lot... please, let it be over with before season 4 starts. I dont want the loan-drama until the end.
 

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is anyone else having problems with the english test? i cant seem to click the letters/ form words... nothing happens when i click with the mouse on the letters.
 

Krytax123

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And both cheated on them :p (with the same guy, by the way :LOL: to be more alike, only if Burke has fallen for a guy too :ROFLMAO:)
Yeah but to be fair in both cases the guys cheated first and didnt cared about sage and jade cheating like at all.

Both relationships were just super super dead, no love, no affection, no communication, the only thing makeing it a relatinship was the label and nothing else. And in both cases the breakup was the only logical deicision, its a interesting flaw of jade and sage to not be able to let go of something while at the same time getting more and more angry about it.
 

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Our mc in Real life 1702336243944.png 1702336264276.png This song fits our mc, he has the megic stick alright after one night all girls hooked. Also the part of the song where the female singer sings : "
You tease me
Oh, please me
I want you to be my love toy
Come near me, don't fear me
I just can't get enough of you boy"

Is a good descriptions of whats happening in quinns head.
 
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