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Okay now that I started blathering about B-plots, help me make sure I’ve got the plot threads all straight. Which all have to be hidden under a spoiler blur, I suppose. Oh well.

First, the plots which aren’t LI-dependent, and even though the LIs are involved, the MC doesn’t have to be in a relationship with them to see them in the storyline. Generally they center on an individual.
  1. The MC joins the DIKs, and quickly takes a leadership role in the fraternity.
    DIK antagonists:
    • 1a. Dawe and the AAAs, who compete for the HOTs; they destroy the DIK mansion, and hope to win their upcoming competition.
    • 1b. Someone who’s hacked the DIK laptop, planting a nude of Cathy (and possibly leaking a certain fucktape).
    • 1c. Someone who’s put a spy camera in Derek’s room, who’s also blackmailing Chad.
    • 1d. Someone who’s spreading the DIKs’ embarrassing Hell Week photos around campus.
    • 1e. Tommy, the DIKs vice president who does whatever the fuck he wants.
    • 1f. Vinny, the ex-DIK turned drug dealer.
    [*][*]Josy—first as a coworker the MC’s crushing on, then as Maya’s secret girlfriend and new HOT.
    [*]Derek—both as maggot brother, try-hard, and growing friend.
    [*]Maya—who needs to escape the “student loan” impressed on her by her homophobic dad.
    [*]Sage—who uses the MC to spy on her cheating boyfriend, but befriends him; and her issues with leading the HOTs.
    [*]Chad—secretly fucking Troy; suspects the MC of blackmailing him and beats him, thus losing his presidency.
    [*]Quinn—who’s running a drugs and prostitution ring out of the HOT house.
    [*]Stephen—de facto B&R provost, shitty husband and father, secretly funding Quinn till he has a change of heart.
    [*]Arieth—the retarded girl on a quest to fuck every last frat boy (except the nerds), and her resulting pregnancy.
    [*]Jill—gets involved with the MC after Chad beats him; her concert and crippling stage fright; how Tybalt tries and fails to woo her, then annoy her.
    [*]Isabella—on the pretext of “just looking out for Jill,” befriends the MC and mentors him somewhat; her mysterious missing husband; plus someone in her English class is cheating.
    [*]Jade—the Gender Studies teacher who wants to fuck the MC and cuck Stephen.
    [*]Lily—the student/stripper who starts buying from Quinn, provoking Vinny.
    [*]Lynette—the MC’s mother’s last diary surfaces, and he learns how his parents met and fucked him into existence.
    [*]Zoey—the MC’s high school fuckbuddy rejoins his life, and realizes she loves him.
    [*]Heather—Tommy’s constantly cuckolded girlfriend who’s had enough.
    [*]Dwyane—the gym trainer who shows the MC how to be a better kickboxer.
Now the LI-dependent plotlines, which get added to the existing ones:
  1. Jill—falling in love, getting her V-card punched, her difficult parents, her dead sister.
    [*]Bella—hiding the relationship, dealing with the age/maturity gap.
    [*]Josy—indulging Josy’s crush on the MC, finding herself; the fallout once her throuple with the MC and Maya is exposed.
    [*]Maya—learning she loves dick, and loves public sex; and the aforementioned fallout.
    [*]Sage—dealing with her anger… and kinks.
    [*]Quinn—dealing with her intimacy issues, and the MC’s growing knowledge of her criminal activities.
    [*]Jade—hiding the affair. (Unless you told the DIKs about it. Then you’re fucked.)
    [*]Cathy. (Mainly fucking.)
    [*]Nora. (Hitting it off—and fucking.)
    [*]Riona—dealing with her immaturity.
    [*]Envy/Nicole—will it become serious, or just more wild stripper sex?
    [*]Lily—will it become serious, or are they only “rolling”?
Feel free to point out any I forgot, but do make sure it doesn’t easily fold into one of the above plotlines. Troy, for example, is part of Chad’s plotline; at least until the sparring turns into an actual friendship, if that ever happens.

And that’s a lot of plotlines to juggle. Most other AVNs just have one or two main plots, plus another for each LI.
Sage: dealing with her graduation, and her fears of the future, her job, the next HOT president
Bianca: her cheating BF, and how MC might get to her and how it tests Jill's relationship with both :D
MC: his family on Lynette's side, and how it relates to Jill's parents or mansion.

"rolling" is pretty much a serious relationship without wanting to call it serious. some people just call it "open relationship". debate. you have 4 hours :p
 
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Darkwen

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Only thing I disliked about Josy in episode 10 was Tommy finding out was kind of huge letdown to me. Sure it was funny but beyond that was not worth the hype and wait for that scene.
Josy did say to Tommy she wants to be with MC
 

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Only thing I disliked about Josy in episode 10 was Tommy finding out was kind of huge letdown to me. Sure it was funny but beyond that was not worth the hype and wait for that scene.
I agree, but the alternate scene if you picked the solo path and spent the night with the 3 girls in your bed, is when Tommy refuses to believe nothing happened. That shit was funny AF!! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Josy did say to Tommy she wants to be with MC
that was the only good thing about that scene for me otherwise I felt like it was a disappointment. Making it more of a comedy scene felt weird and out of place for me when it was suppose to be something a bit more serious.
 

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that was the only good thing about that scene for me otherwise I felt like it was a disappointment. Making it more of a comedy scene felt weird and out of place for me when it was suppose to be something a bit more serious.
The only disappointing part to me was not being able to kiss the girls or touch their ass's in font of Tommy
 
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dalli_x

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i'm not missing anything. there is literally no point. you're just making stuff up in your mind and try to look for out of context quotes for confirmation bias

you speak as if you're the only one that played the game...

the only we know is that MC saw the cluck, they both follow each other and Zoey left one or two likes but MC doesn't post anything, especially because he is depressed and heartbroken. he stops using rooster. you can only speculate that he stops using it after discovering that specific cluck. and he reactivates his account to follow his college friends. and there is not a single profile picture that looks like a wolf... see how that works ? I can make stuff up too just to destroy your arguments, and mine at least make sense.
you only have the facts, there is no proven link between them, you can only speculate from them, and you do it wrong. there is no logic to your wolf theory at all.

from the Sage scene, it's easy to understand that he got angry when he was bullied and retaliated. that's the only time, it is CONFIRMED as fact. we never get MC's reaction to the cluck, not in the EP3 flashback, not in EP9 park reunion, not in the interlude... you're just making it up. you're projecting yourself, and you want MC to be angry, probably. i don't really care.

you know that Vinny calling MC a dog is just an insult and Jacob saying lucky dog is just a saying ? why are you trying to read any more into that when they don't mean anything at all ? they don't prove your point at all. it's just you making stuff up again.

you say a profile pic is quickly changed... but why would he need to change his profile pic when there is the ACTUAL ACCOUNT NAME THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED next to every comment ???
let me even go a step above that with even more logic : if it was actually MC that said that to Zoey, it would have been massively damaging to her, it would have been the only comment displayed, in the middle of the screen... and Zoey's reaction would have been massively different. just that single point shows how little you understand about the characters and their relationship.

also from the park reunion scene, you know that MC NEVER reacted or commented on the cluck or her feed because you can obviously see that Zoey discovers right there that MC saw it. it's in your own quotes... like dude...

yeah, that text from MC is a joke. it's a fact. you can try to interpret it in anyway you want in your head, it doesn't change the fact. lighten the mood, tease her, distracting himself from his current predicament, you can speculate anything. it doesn't change the fact that it's still just a small joke to show Zoey had no idea what MC was going through.

again, you're just making stuff up. Zoey sees the MC with his girl, she remembers her sweet time with him. bam, her true feelings hit her head on, she runs away as the immature girl she is. you don't know what it means for her spot in the LI list, only DPC knows. stick to the facts.

you don't know where it is. the only location that is mentioned is the tree house. you can speculate it is Zoey's room that DPC didn't have time to model like he did in interlude, but you don't know. you can only see wood planks as walls and a window, and a bed. it can be her room, sure, but it can also be the tree house. they spend tons of time there before the kiss, and can continue spending time after the kiss for the same privacy they got before. you also don't know if their first time is what is displayed there in that scene. and if we listen to you and it is "the next time" and it's definitely not their first time by your own logic, you are just destroying your own arguments, yourself

"MC was definitely inexperienced when he first had sex with Zoey" DUH captain obvious... she is his first. why did you feel the need to even say that ? did you think it would help your point in any capacity ?
"I don't mean making out, I mean having sex". same goes for this... she is his first for both. why do you feel the need to even write that at all ? it's literally written in the flashback.

DPC rules are only to avoid Patreon ban hammer... nothing else. but hey, let's use that logic, since you want to use it to prove anything. then it means any underage person cannot be pictured or even thought to be having anything even remotely connected to sex. so using YOUR logic, there is absolutely NO chance that he would masturbate, AND there is absolutely NO chance that we would watch porn, and NO chance that he would try to educate himself in anything related to sex. MC is a sweet, wholesome boy that would only try to improve his sex skills AFTER he is exposed to it by Zoey during their first time.

and NO. the sex scene Zoey remembers in EP10 is not their first time. you don't know what it is. it is not specified. it's only you making stuff up again and again. it's just a moment when the hammock broke, and it became a strong memory linked to her feelings, that's the only thing you can say.

dude, everybody knows the sex scene in interlude is after what is written in the notebook... it happens just shortly before she leaves.
it's like you think everybody else is stupid and you're the only one that can read

the event in the notebook is just that and event. it is completely disconnected to any of the flashback in EP3 and EP10. there is absolutely no link, no proof, nothing factual that links them. you're, again, only making it up. your wishful thinking, and you think that is "proof"
the only link that you can actually factually make is in the interlude, you can only say that the event happened before the interlude. you can't say for sure that it is the previous time they had sex.
stop trying to make links where there is none.
Do you hate eyes in your head? She misses everything.
How can the bed fit into the small tree house? Can you inflate the tree house?
Why did Zoey change her red panties and put on black panties? It's probably a secret sign from Zoey so that her menstruation is over in an instant and they can now fuck her.
If you have your way, Zoey will write something in her notebook that she wants to do even though she's already done it.

If you see names here of the people who respond to the Cluck, something is wrong. And people think I'm on some kind of drugs. Maybe I don't see the names because I'm on drugs. I'm kind of confused now.o_O:ROFLMAO:
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Geralt From Rivia

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The only post ep 10 hate Josy got was from people that can't handle her being the best girl. If not on her path don't like what she wore mm well that someone right but when cross's over in to hate only proves Josy is the Queen and speaks to a lack of faith in there own LI since the outrage is a clear sign they would fuck Josy in heartbeat even if on another path. ;)
That's a very hard copium, Darkwen. Be careful and don't overdose with this thing.
 

dalli_x

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It's so unlikely that we can write it off for the reasons that I listed. I don't dismiss your theory with joy or anything, I just think you're reading too much into it. The library is the nerds' natural habitat and Isabella has grown to accept their presence. Besides Jill was playing that game of DnD and Bella didn't want to spoil her friend's fun.
What's so unlikely about that? In EP5 it is written how Tommy and Rusty talk about founding the DIKs. No mansion is built within one or two. Ergo, they took over an existing building and turned it into the DIK Mansion.

Who are the weakest on campus? The nerds. It would be the perfect reason for the nerds to get revenge on the DIKs.
 
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Sage: dealing with her graduation, and her fears of the future, her job, the next HOT president
Bianca: her cheating BF, and how MC might get to her and how it tests Jill's relationship with both :D
MC: his family on Lynette's side, and how it relates to Jill's parents or mansion.

"rolling" is pretty much a serious relationship without wanting to call it serious. some people just call it "open relationship". debate. you have 4 hours :p
The Sage stuff is just stuff she’s talked about; it’s not become the plot till she starts to act on it.

Bianca is definitely a side plot I forgot to list. She’s attached to the Jill path, but she is an alternate side plot. Four of them, really:
  1. You can choose to not have the MC tell Jill about Matthew, and therefore Bianca knows nothing; you can also choose not to grab her ass, and therefore Bianca won’t assume he’s interested.
  2. Or, not tell Jill, but grab Bianca’s ass;
  3. or tell, and not grab ass;
  4. or tell, and grab ass.
Plus there’s all the extra fun if it turns out Bianca’s somehow related to Lynette. Long-lost cousin! Hope they find out before they fuck.

As for the MC’s family on Lynette’s side—that’s part of the Lynette plotline, and we have yet to see if anything ends up different when he dates Jill. He doesn’t appear to realize Jill grew up in his mom’s old house—if not his mom’s old room. Maybe he’ll realize it if he’s dating Jill; maybe he’ll realize it regardless; won’t know till episode 11 or later.
 
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What's so unlikely about that? In EP5 it is written how Tommy and Rusty talk about founding the DIKs. No mansion is built within one or two. Ergo, they took over an existing building and turned it into the DIK Mansion.

Who are the weakest on campus? The nerds. It would be the perfect reason for the nerds to get revenge on the DIKs.
Again I told you why, although as NebulousShooter points out it wouldn't be the first huge plot hole. It's an interesting theory to say the least, but it's pure speculation based on no actual fact. We need more foreshadowing that it could be the nerds, cause up until now we've had 0. If we continue like this without any hint and it's revelead all of a sudden that it was them it's gonna suck bad.
 
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Quinn is my girl and she has a plenty curvaceous body, with a nice fat booty and nice sized perky tits.
Bella is still hot although she might be a bit too much, so I’m perfectly fine with my sweet fallen angel Quinn.
Quinn could do with longer hair though, I don’t particularly dig her hairstyle and facial piercing. But it’s the whole person that matters and her hair and piercing go well with the rest of her punk persona, so I don’t complain too much. I can totally see her ditching this whole style, growing her hair and not dying it white anymore if she were to stray from the negative path she’s now on, not like a punk style is bad per se but you get me. A bit like Melissa in Acting Lessons.

Wrong, there were consequences with the MC as can be seen when she realizes they’re not close anymore and he has made a new life without her and runs away through the woods.
Not only that, she admits to herself after leaving San Diego that she had failed and wasn’t that good at surfing, so she knows very well she has wasted her time and now that she has come back to the East Coast with nothing she’s coming to terms with it in the worst possible way, that’s a big blow to her spirit.

Of course she has changed so she’s not the same person who left for San Diego in that sense, but she’s still the same Zoe. If the MC really ever cared about her he will be present for her, that’s what I’m saying.
Admitting that you have made a mistake isn't really that big a thing and I seriously doubt it made an impact on her, just look at how easily she was willing to move back home. Did she even ask her Mother if she could? As far as the relationship with MC that may teach her something but we're yet to see it in game.
 

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Again I told you why, although as NebulousShooter points out it wouldn't be the first huge plot hole. It's an interesting theory to say the least, but it's pure speculation based on no actual fact. We need more foreshadowing that it could be the nerds, cause up until now we've had 0. If we continue like this without any hint and it's revelead all of a sudden that it was them it's gonna suck bad.
Now understand what you mean. Of course it doesn't necessarily have to be the nerds. But the fact is one thing. The DIK Mansion was a different building before and those who lost the most because of it don't speak well of the DIKs.

For example, if it was the cafeteria before, it doesn't necessarily have to be the nerds because all students are affected. The fraternities and the HOTs already have their own fraternity houses. But the remaining students have lost their whereabouts. The dormies maybe?:unsure:
 

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Only thing I disliked about Josy in episode 10 was Tommy finding out was kind of huge letdown to me. Sure it was funny but beyond that was not worth the hype and wait for that scene.
disliked about the Josy's path, may be would have been a better wording. :unsure: If anything what was disappointing in it, is MC himself. The only good moment is when MC can ask back to Tommy " Who is your sister ? ".:LOL:.
But He should have just fucking throw everyone out from his room, and tell them to Shut the Fuck up, it's none of your fucking business. instead he calls for this " dick secret code " that none give a fuck about anyway, expecially Tommy.
By the time MC put on his cloths and left his room half of the shcool aready knew everything:cautious::whistle:.

and since this would have been the outcome anyway, so it would feel much better if MC simply kick Tommy ass and put him in to his place. (y)
 

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Admitting that you have made a mistake isn't really that big a thing and I seriously doubt it made an impact on her, just look at how easily she was willing to move back home. Did she even ask her Mother if she could? As far as the relationship with MC that may teach her something but we're yet to see it in game.
It clearly had an impact on her, she was dejected and humbled ever since she left San Diego and still is to this day. It's irrelevant if her mom decided to take her back home or not, at the end she did.
We have clearly seen it around the campfire how she feels the divide between her and the MC seeing him with all his friends, up to the point when she snapped and run away, which is still a pending point.
Now understand what you mean. Of course it doesn't necessarily have to be the nerds. But the fact is one thing. The DIK Mansion was a different building before and those who lost the most because of it don't speak well of the DIKs.

For example, if it was the cafeteria before, it doesn't necessarily have to be the nerds because all students are affected. The fraternities and the HOTs already have their own fraternity houses. But the remaining students have lost their whereabouts. The dormies maybe?:unsure:
I don't know who has it against the DIKs, we'll see! I'll judge when I have more data. I think Vinny is behind it for now cause he wants to get back at the DIKs as I said, but that's all I can say for now since we know so little, only that he and the DIKs had a fallout, which is still more than anything else we know.
disliked about the Josy's path, may be would have been a better wording. :unsure: If anything what was disappointing in is MC himself. The only good moment is when MC can ask back to Tommy " Who is your sister ? ".:LOL:.
But He should have just fucking throw everyone out from his room, and tell them to Shut the Fuck up, it's none of your fucking business. instead he calls for this " dick secret code " that none give a fuck about anyway, expecially Tommy.
By the time MC put on his cloths and left his room half of the shcool aready knew everything:cautious::whistle:.

and since this would have been the outcome anyway, so it would feel much better if MC simply kikc Tommy ass and put him in to his place. (y)
Agreed, even with maxed out DIK the MC is still a scaredy wimp sometimes. He should grow a spine and do his own thing.
 

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the fact that she didn't wait for her best friend to come with her might just means it was more about going away from the place that reminded her of her grandmother, not wanting to confront her grief ?
i don't know, it seems to me that grief disappears quite a bit as a theme during the break in san diego.

i see it more as a generic vacation and the surfing as a childish excuse (she doesn't even have the pride to prove her stepfather wrong). she doesn't care about school (and later regrets it), at home the love she wants for her mother is balanced by the annoyance she feels for her stepfather, she tries not to lose MC completely until she decides to listen to strangers.

DPC generationally is a father, and for him the kids are always wrong, while time almost always gives adults, even the most despicable ones, right.
 
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