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If you dated Jill but picked Bella the only difference is Jill smiling at Bella for helping them in the Avengers Assemble Part 1 in the library.
It's still unresolved, Jill prioritized helping her friends over her current heartbreak. We don't know how the kiss will affect Bella's route either.

The difference between dating Bella, or not dating Bella on my Jill saves was literally just 1 render in Yoga where Bella looks back at you and Jill.
Bella is more mature. She already began her moving on process, it seems.
 

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Quinn and Lily are not exclusive yet, I played Quinn route as my blind playthrough this update and chose to roll with Lily, outisde of some interactions in the morning at Nicole, none important, everything plays just the same, with the added benefit of seeing Quinn be jelous every time Lily would throw herself at Fuckface. The HOTS, or Vixens ending just 2, or 3 lines of dialogue different, I think Mel winks at you if you slept at the HOTS, lol.

Its more Nicole vs Quinn the Other variations. Which reminds me this episode sucked in terms of branches and acknowledging past choices.

  • The difference between dating Bella, or not dating Bella on my Jill saves was literally just 1 render in Yoga where Bella looks back at you and Jill.

    If you dated Jill but picked Bella the only difference is Jill smiling at Bella for helping them in the Avengers Assemble Part 1 in the library.

  • Bianca fucking ignores your existence on every route, including Jill's unless you told her the truth about Matthew cheating on her, lol.

Idk, maybe its just me, maybe I should commend the Doctor for trying 'to reel the routes in' but to me this was the least rewarding episode in terms of acknowledging and respecting my choices. Don't even get me started on Quinn's route where being a pathetic guilt tripping simp is the only way to play her route, no choice in how to react, or push her path. You get made a fool early, you can tell her you are out, if she keeps trying to keep you in the dark of her deals and by the end of it you still turn into Naruto and swear to bring her back to the village. :Kappa:


Anyways, the only route I have left is finishing Nicole's, but still not feel like replaying.
Realistically, how would you have wanted them to behave?
They're not children, if they want to maintain a friendly relationship you can't really have the girls throwing death stares and passive-agressive comments at him or each other constantly :HideThePain:

Now you can argue that realistically most of these people would probably not be friends with one another, after all that can happen in the game they'd probably just keep their distance, but developing a game around that possibility would be insane...
 

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Realistically, how would you have wanted them to behave?
They're not children, if they want to maintain a friendly relationship you can't really have the girls throwing death stares and passive-agressive comments at him or each other constantly :HideThePain:

Now you can argue that realistically most of these people would probably not be friends with one another, after all that can happen in the game they'd probably just keep their distance, but developing a game around that possibility would be insane...
It is actually quite simple. Just cut scenes. If mc has no relationship with Bella, or worse she left him for Cathy's panties, she doesn't invite him to yoga. I don't think it's such an important scene that it needs to be canon.
 
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Realistically, how would you have wanted them to behave?
They're not children, if they want to maintain a friendly relationship you can't really have the girls throwing death stares and passive-agressive comments at him or each other constantly :HideThePain:

Now you can argue that realistically most of these people would probably not be friends with one another, after all that can happen in the game they'd probably just keep their distance, but developing a game around that possibility would be insane...
Multiple instances and more than a line of dialogue and then being 99.9 same route? Kinda like the game used to behave with branching, only instead of ramping up now with proper relationships, it started to go away. Makes you feel that apart from 5 choices everything is pointless.
 

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5) Jacob and Zoey. This is weird, but I can't explain his interest in Zoey. Maybe he just wanted to hurt MC by banging his ex-girlfriend?
I don't think that's it. They just have a common interest in art and bonded over that, and he thought it was more than that. Also if he wanted to hurt MC he wouldn't ask for permission to hit on her.
 

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Jacob and Zoey. This is weird, but I can't explain his interest in Zoey. Maybe he just wanted to hurt MC by banging his ex-girlfriend?
Jacob tried to hookup with Zoey, whatever route MC is on... Not just Sage.

Jacob being a guy that doesn't seem to like confrontation he opted to attempt to break them up with the pictures on the end of episode 2.
If he wanted to break Chad and Sage up, it's more effective to send the picture to Sage. There is no point in sending them to Chad.
And the pictures go to Chad even if MC does nothing with Sage...
 

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Multiple instances and more than a line of dialogue and then being 99.9 same route? Kinda like the game used to behave with branching, only instead of ramping up now with proper relationships, it started to go away. Makes you feel that apart from 5 choices everything is pointless.
What kind of dialogue differences?
And I must be bugging, every route has massive differences with the individual girls' scenes, the "main" plot of the game is mostly linear yes, but it was literally always like that, how is EP10 99.9 the same route and EP6 isn't for example?

Is it because back then you could date a bunch of girls at the same time instead of one?
Because if so, then just give up the game already, it's only going to get worse for you :HideThePain:
 

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I don't think it's such an important scene that it needs to be canon.
It's important in that it's when Heather's decision to break up is pretty much cemented. But for the Jill and Bella it's definitely not important.

Hopefully the developers will someday realize that yoga is boring as hell. Every other game has fucking yoga in it. I don't know of a single game where yoga is interesting and doesn't make you want to just click "skip".
It seems yoga is the explanation for all the LI in all games to be fit and skinny even with huge breasts it's the only purpose!
 

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It's important in that it's when Heather's decision to break up is pretty much cemented. But for the Jill and Bella it's definitely not important
Heather can leave Tommy even without that scene, which adds nothing new, but even if it had been important you could have set it in another context: in the college corridors, in the library, in the street...
 

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What kind of dialogue differences?
And I must be bugging, every route has massive differences with the individual girls' scenes, the "main" plot of the game is mostly linear yes, but it was literally always like that, how is EP10 99.9 the same route and EP6 isn't for example?

Is it because back then you could date a bunch of girls at the same time instead of one?
Because if so, then just give up the game already, it's only going to get worse for you :HideThePain:
I am talking about dating multiple girls, vs pure routes. There are barely any reactions, difference, or consequences. Like I said, Bella looks back once 1(ONE) render is the only difference in dating her and Jill in 2 whole seasons of the game. You cannot tell me having more coy looks, more dialogue changes doesn't make it feel better about your choices.

EDIT: Like lets say you have 2 save files, one pure Jill, one dating Bella and breaking up with her in ep8. Convince me how its worth to play 10 on both saves.
 

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EDIT: Like lets say you have 2 save files, one pure Jill, one dating Bella and breaking up with her in ep8. Convince me how its worth to play 10 on both saves.
It's not worth it, but it also isn't in EP9 is it? Only the other way around (ditching Jill for Bella) has actually meaningful differences in EP9.
So far Bella has taken MC's rejection quite well, if there's going to be any meaningful differences on a path where you rejected her, they're only going to happen far into S3 or maybe S4 even, whenever she has a breakdown.
There's also the possibility that she'll simply move on with her life and not give a fuck about it anymore and without causing any scenes.
 

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It's not worth it, but it also isn't in EP9 is it? Only the other way around (ditching Jill for Bella) has actually meaningful differences in EP9.
So far Bella has taken MC's rejection quite well, if there's going to be any meaningful differences on a path where you rejected her, they're only going to happen far into S3 or maybe S4 even, whenever she has a breakdown.
There's also the possibility that she'll simply move on with her life and not give a fuck about it anymore and without causing any scenes.
Just as it was not worth telling Derek to have feelings for Maya and then waiting five chapters for that choice to have any consequence.... :oops: :oops:
 
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Just as it was not worth telling Derek to have feelings for Maya and then waiting five chapters for that choice to have any consequence.... :oops: :oops:
I mean, it has been like that from the very beginning hasn't it?
DPC has shown us he's playing the long game time and time again and yet people still complain and act surprised when it happens :HideThePain:

I'm not saying many of the criticisms aren't valid and it's totally understandable that some people don't like it, but it's not like it's anything new and DPC has been very clear and adamant about how his interests will prevail above all...

Like, let's talk about mini-games for example, yes they're not all good, yes they take a bunch of time to develop, but from very early on the first choice the game gives you is to play with them either ON or OFF, so isn't it obvious that the game is going to have an emphasis on mini-games if you leave them ON? And somehow people still lose their minds when they appear :WaitWhat:

Feels like a bunch of people are looking at past seasons and episodes with blinding rose tinted glasses. Perhaps because before episodes were released in a relatively quick manner, people overlooked many of the game's quirks and DPC's design choices, but now since updates take so long everyone has more time to think about it and started realizing perhaps it's not game they thought it was.

Hell, I was truly disappointed with EP9, I really thought that if every episode from that point onwards became like that I'd lose interest, thankfully for me EP10 returned to a more standard episode format.
 
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I’ve been redoing my Isabella run. Thus far my previous Isabella runs have been
  • a CHICK fuckboy run (yes, despite how DIK-ish it sounds, you can easily do that), where I ultimately chose Isabella
  • a monogamous Neutral run
  • a CHICK run where I went for both Jill and Isabella, and chose Isabella.
Somehow I never actually did a monogamous CHICK run for her. So I’m overwriting the Jill/Isabella run with it.

Bella really doesn’t care for the MC as anything but a CHICK, and it’s very easy to get her when you’re a massive CHICK, so I’m doing that. Frustrates the hell out of Tommy, but fuck Tommy.

There are many fucked-up things about Isabella. The secrecy, the one-upsmanship, her defective sense of humor, and of course if the MC is pursuing Jill, how she encourages pursuing Jill, yet keeps sucking his cock on the side. But the one I want to bitch about today is how Bella states, more than once, how young Tremolo makes her feel.

Which is weird as hell to me personally. I’m 17 years older than my fiancee; similar age gap between Isabella and the MC, except I’m in my 50s and my woman’s in her 30s. And being with a younger woman absolutely does not make me feel young again. It makes me feel old as shit.

Oh, it’s not an insurmountable problem; it may bug me, but she’s my dream girl and there’s no way in hell I’m not marrying her. We’ve been hashing it out with our therapist. It’s not about how it looks; nobody we know cares about that either. I mostly care that I’ll die before her, or otherwise burden her. I wanna grow old with her, not on her. It’s my hangup, and I don’t want it to burden her either.

But it’s why I absolutely can’t relate to Isabella’s flashbacks after the Halloween party to when she was a young cocksucker. To me, that’s just Dr. PinkCake talking out of his ass. Young cock wouldn’t make her feel young. If anything it’d make her start thinking a lot more about her soon-expiring ovaries… and whether Tremolo should put a baby in her.

Hell, maybe that’s already her plan, and he’s gonna become a daddy a lot sooner than he was expecting. That conversation he had with Josy in ep 10 about Arieth’s upcoming kid? Foreshadowing.

I Am not known around these parts as an advocate for time travel, or incest, but hear me out! :cautious:
Yeah, if Lynette were a love interest in the game I’d be all over that. Totally makes sense why Neil’s never gotten over her.
 

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I love the minigames. The writing in this game is very good.
Partially it reminds me of my life at university in germany and how I met my girlfriend now wife.

I hope he keeps that up and , really the minigames are what stands out , as well as that there is no busslhit incest. It feels more like a college movie from the early 2000s.
The story and visual is good.
 

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I mean, it has been like that from the very beginning hasn't it?
DPC has shown us he's playing the long game time and time again and yet people still complain and act surprised when it happens :HideThePain:

I'm not saying many of the criticisms aren't valid and it's totally understandable that some people don't like it, but it's not like it's anything new and DPC has been very clear and adamant about how his interests will prevail above all...

Like, let's talk about mini-games for example, yes they're not all good, yes they take a bunch of time to develop, but from very early on the first choice the game gives you is to play with them either ON or OFF, so isn't it obvious that the game is going to have an emphasis on mini-games if you leave them ON? And somehow people still lose their minds when they appear :WaitWhat:

Feels like a bunch of people are looking at past seasons and episodes with blinding rose tinted glasses. Perhaps because before episodes were released in a relatively quick manner, people overlooked many of the game's quirks and DPC's design choices, but now since updates take so long everyone has more time to think about it and started realizing perhaps it's not game they thought it was.

Hell, I was truly disappointed with EP9, I really thought that if every episode from that point onwards became like that I'd lose interest, thankfully for me EP10 returned to a more standard episode format.
On minigames you are completely off the mark. It hasn't always been like this, for a season and a half they were used to make money, useful in some cases but rarely necessary, and to make some RP, almost completely useless. Now they've become extremely intrusive both in the storyline and the side ones. The date with Riona has two minigames.... A date that will see a tenth of players.

On the issue of plot you are partly right, the lengthening of time increases the 'anxiety' to see the issues resolved. The 5 chapters of waiting from declaring an interest in Maya or Josy and seeing its effects has decimated the troupe's fans. And how is Bella's response to her big conundrums not unsatisfying? Where we got half a lie and one non-answer.


In this situation where important matters are continuously postponed (we waited for Maya to talk to Sage, then we waited for both of them to talk to Burke, then suddenly we need the documents, in my opinion insignificant, in order to wait to talk to Jill's lawyer...) the interest in secondary matters fades away and the desire to spend time with characters towards whom we have shown disinterest in every possible way is not so present.
 
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