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Man, this party is going to be entertaining for the man-whore route.
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blessed be the navigation from room to room!!!Man, this party is going to be entertaining for the man-whore route.
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Why do so many people on this pirate forum get so worked up by the fact that other people are out there bankrolling your enjoyment of porn? Do you realize that all porn is paid by someone? Those Brazzers videos you watch on Pornhub are paid by companies or other wealthy dudes who hope that subscribers' fees will keep up with the costs of paying performers, renting fancy homes, cleaning up after, etc. etc. No one is owed sexual gratification.
Patrons of creative work in general--and this applies to Patreon donors today--support artists and their creative endeavors for a variety of reasons, only one of which is that they want to obtain access to the work(s) being created. Historically, wealthy patrons supported great artists so that those artists could live off their art and not starve between commissions. Patreon works on the same principle, but offers everyone (not just the wealthiest elite) a place and a way to support their favorite creators. Patreon supporters make it possible for pirates and others to enjoy these games, just as we can enjoy Mozart's music thanks to the support of people like Maximilian Franz and others like him.
Specific to Being a DIK and its support, DPC's "updates" are as big as some other developers' entire games. So to say that DPC only "drops one update a year" is a little bit like saying "Michelangelo only sculpted 20 statues his entire life." Obviously, DPC's episodes are not like Michelangelo's works in terms of artistic significance or anything else, but in the AVN/porn game world, DPC is a big deal, so my analogy is apt, I think.
I, myself, subscribed to DPC's Patreon for about 3 years, but now just drop $25 on the month of the release because I'd rather spread by monthly donations out across several developers (I support half a dozen or so still on a monthly basis). I'm an older guy with a decent income and I enjoy BaDIK and other games enough that I want to contribute to their development and I know a lot of other people can't afford to. I also support other non-porn Patreons that relate to personal interests I have. Just as I pay Netflix every month, even when they aren't dropping new episodes of my favorite shows.
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blessed be the navigation from room to room!!!
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I was joking, but not too much. but imagine playing the ninth chapter without the possibility of being able to pass from one room to another, but having to get there arrow by arrow. in my opinion, today at least half of the BADIK players would be hospitalised for labyrinthism.
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I think it relates more towards the amount of each patron ends up giving for, and let's face it, a mediocre entertainment medium compared to AAA titles. What I mean is, when a AAA title hits the proverbial shelves, it doesn't normally add up to a few thousands of dollars' worth.
Bare with me here for a sec, when for example GTA5 launched, it was about ~$80 for the base game itself. And you get your money's worth. But when it comes to VN's for some reason, unlimited donations from the player base for an incomplete product is simply mentally retarded and defaults to a norm for the industry. Yet people are fine with doing that. That's completely outside my capacity of understanding. Dropping a few bucks at update releases is much more reasonable. But this business model exclusively takes advantage of people with more money than brains, and that's including those with barely enough to put food on the table.
But it is what it is. And my only option is to just do the reasonable thing and not subscribe to the default of "oh take my money, I need to see fake boobs because pornhub is too realistic", or whatever the reasoning is.
Anyhow, that's kinda how I see it as.
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The first time I played episode 9 I was like a dumbass looking for those damn arrows. Then I remembered the room travel option hahaha.I was joking, but not too much. but imagine playing the ninth chapter without the possibility of being able to pass from one room to another, but having to get there arrow by arrow. in my opinion, today at least half of the BADIK players would be hospitalised for labyrinthism.
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Madame is like a black truffle. Rare, hard to find, and only a few people have the ability to appreciate it. She is not appreciated by those without culture. To appreciate her, one must be a gentleman. She’s not for you. Leave all this beauty to me
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More people would appreciate her if you didn't have to sell your organs to afford her lapdances. When it comes to other money content in game or her content - that's a hard battle to win.
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I see your profile pic, know why you don't like it
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I know how territorial people can be when it comes to relationships, but this is Jill. You know her.
From the opposite side, Josy get jealous in any moment, but she was a bit coward to talk about it.
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I think Arieth pregnancy would resolve soon, for the simple fact that a pregnancy goes on for 9 months and you cannot have a pregnant Arieth for all the future episodes, that would impact negativey all the plot.
You have to admit it's a bit of an anomaly in our societies to pay someone a lot of money to develop a product and all you'll get at the end is that product, at a higher price than the one that future players will pay to buy the complete finished version.
You write: "Historically, wealthy patrons supported great artists so that those artists could live off their art and not starve between commissions". Well, historically, almost all wealthy patrons supported artists because they were commissioning them works that ended in their private collections, or to show off and gain a higher social status among peers.
Logically, if you've a high income, 25 USD/month could be what 0.50 USD mean for many others. So everything is a bit subjective here. Honestly, if I had money I would give precedence to financing NGOs and open source projects.
You make sense, but I think the main anomaly with the Patreon model is that usually the consumer supports artists or enterprises by buying their finished product. You don't support a rock band financing their future albums. Unless you are financing them buying their stock options, but in that case it's an investment because you'll also get a part of the profits. I don't think DPC will give back money to the patrons that financed his work when he'll sell the complete game on the digital platforms like Steam.
You have to admit it's a bit of an anomaly in our societies to pay someone a lot of money to develop a product and all you'll get at the end is that product, at a higher price than the one that future players will pay to buy the complete finished version.
You write: "Historically, wealthy patrons supported great artists so that those artists could live off their art and not starve between commissions". Well, historically, almost all wealthy patrons supported artists because they were commissioning them works that ended in their private collections, or to show off and gain a higher social status among peers.
Logically, if you've a high income, 25 USD/month could be what 0.50 USD mean for many others. So everything is a bit subjective here. Honestly, if I had money I would give precedence to financing NGOs and open source projects.
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the green dollar sign is the sign of the usa dollar, so understandable if someone think the game dollar is usa dollar.
i think the orange dollar is worth much more than the green dollar
dpc should stop. he is giving ideas to the femenist. they will need maternity test or make illegal the paternity test. in the name of equalityI think she's so stupid that she fucked up the pregnancy test instructions and she's not even with child. Even she seems to know she's "not the mother".
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Tommy (and Rusty) didnt claim, he dont creampie her? yes, i know she can get the baby by Tommy's precum, but in AVNs you have to creampie a girl to knock her up. as i know, in AL too.
longer time to build up some expectation.
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Putting aside why people care what strangers do with their £$€ I think the presumption is Patrons changing how or if they pay would change dev behavior and these days I have real doubts it would. It's frustration looking for a fix to long AVN dev times.
We’ve all seen milkers on this site. Their funding falling off a cliff didn’t change their behavior one iota if anything it entrenched it (so many
grandma funerals). The biggest were happy to earn relative pennies for nothing in comparison to tens of thousands a year for work. It's all radio silence, random update and if the funding was too low they bail entirely until "abandoned". And that’s the motherfucking milkers.When it comes to devs such as DPC, digi.B, US, Classy Lemon, Caribdis, Ocean, Philly etc that do actually produce quality work. I’m not sure why changing how the talented devs are funded or paying them less is going to make them work faster or produce more; if losing money couldn't motivate milkers to do that. I think the truth is AVNs taking years is what it is now and you either put it on ignore or wait.
Unless you have an actual contract with someone or own shares good luck influencing their work schedule in any way.
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Patreon is like a kickstarter approach. Sure, DPC could just sell seasons of BaDIK on Steam. In his particular case, the game has been successful enough on that platform that he might actually have done reasonably well anyway. For other devs, without Patreon support their games would never get made or get made but then fail miserably in the commercial space. Is the world a poorer place with fewer lewd games? Of course not, but free access to prodigious amounts of sexual material is also an anomaly in our societies today.
As for your rock band analogy, this is changing, too. Few artists are able to make much money anymore simply from their music. Taylor Swift and Rihanna are fabulously wealthy, but most have to self-fund or get by on touring. The old days of "getting a record contract" are gone. Thousands of musicians have occasional hits that go viral but see almost no financial gain from it.
doing a Jill run in perp for ep 11, just so i can fuck about with Bianca wish she was a LI she smoking.
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I would take Ocean out of that list. He's intentionally working on 2 titles at once. WiAB is barely out of the gates, and is already at 1 yr update intervals. SG is hardly at perhaps %40 produced, and has had several setbacks. He can barely keep up with 1 title, yet he insists on working on both. That's a business model that will never see the completion of either of his titles. In my eyes that falls right into the milker category whether you agree with that or not.Putting aside why people care what strangers do with their £$€ I think the presumption is Patrons changing how or if they pay would change dev behavior and these days I have real doubts it would. It's frustration looking for a fix to long AVN dev times.
We’ve all seen milkers on this site. Their funding falling off a cliff didn’t change their behavior one iota if anything it entrenched it (so many
When it comes to devs such as DPC, digi.B, US, Classy Lemon, Caribdis, Ocean, Philly etc that do actually produce quality work. I’m not sure why changing how the talented devs are funded or paying them less is going to make them work faster or produce more; if losing money couldn't motivate milkers to do that. I think the truth is AVNs taking years is what it is now and you either put it on ignore or wait.
Unless you have an actual contract with someone or own shares good luck influencing their work schedule in any way.
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When he ditched his partner(s) for whatever reason, he should have halted WiAB and concentrated on just 1 title. I might have some rather harsh criticisms of DPC but at least he's persistent, like a dog chasing his tail. Folks might moan and cry about the lengthy dev cycle, but that's generally those that don't have a grasp of the coding and path complexity of BaDIK. But in my eyes, Ocean has performed a carnal sin by not compromising on his aspirations. He basically bit off more than he can chew.
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I agree! There are definitely "milkers" out there, too many to mention. It certainly can be frustrating to see devs go silent or disappear altogether, but this kind of thing is inevitable everywhere there is money to be made. It's especially inevitable in the AVN world because devs are anonymous.Putting aside why people care what strangers do with their £$€ I think the presumption is Patrons changing how or if they pay would change dev behavior and these days I have real doubts it would. It's frustration looking for a fix to long AVN dev times.
We’ve all seen milkers on this site. Their funding falling off a cliff didn’t change their behavior one iota if anything it entrenched it (so many
When it comes to devs such as DPC, digi.B, US, Classy Lemon, Caribdis, Ocean, Philly etc that do actually produce quality work. I’m not sure why changing how the talented devs are funded or paying them less is going to make them work faster or produce more; if losing money couldn't motivate milkers to do that. I think the truth is AVNs taking years is what it is now and you either put it on ignore or wait.
Unless you have an actual contract with someone or own shares good luck influencing their work schedule in any way.
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