VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[dontehall2023]

"What's everyone's thoughts on the relationship viability for the main girls or side girls?

Majority of the side girls are either"
this is what you wrote and then after listing bunch of side girls you listed Jill among rest of girls that are either listed as "other" LI or actual side girls so i assumed you were thinking of Jill as side girl my bad if i misunderstood your post.
as for the other thing. reason i mention lily and nicole specifically IS because i think they would be good at long term commitments. First of all, you pay nothing for lily's BJ at prep mansion party if you play as CHICK. That alone is proof and solid argument that she would be good pick for long term relationshipl because with a DIK MC she looks at it as business, but with CHICK MC she actually shows cracks in her walls and acts out of character and even though after halloween party she still has the walls up even if you are CHICK MC, during the scene at the pier you can really get to know her character and understand why she acts the way she does. I dont think she would be compatible in long term relationship with DIK MC but that is not because of her but because of MC being a DIK (title drop lmao).
And nicole is really a good character. And i havent played BaDIK in over a year so i am maybe misremembering but i believe you pay $$$$ for private dance. you get anal for free if you play your cards right (what i am trying to say is that there is posibility to get private dance you paid for and no anal so it is not acurate to say you are paying $$$$ for anal) And if you act like a DIK at the "tinder" (again its been over a year so i forgot what is the name of dating app ingame) then she does not really fuck with you on emotional level.
I'd say both lily and nicole are good pick for CHICK MC, not so much for DIK MC. So to answer your question, if i was in MC shoes, i'd probably be CHICK MC in that scenario so absolutely yes for both of them. Nicole having a child is a thing that makes her not want to be with MC not a reason for MC not to be with her in my opinion.

There's definitely different interactions based on your affinity. Lily is very generous to the MC if he's a CHICK. She's a little less harsh to a DIK MC if you don't stick a finger in her ass. I'm excited to see if either or both Nicole & Lily get dedicated paths. I think it would be fun to explore Lily's relationship reservations. And to see how far things go with Nicole despite Marvin's existence. Personally I'd prefer he spent all his time with his dad. But that wouldn't be fair to Nicole. Especially if you want to date her.

As far as the Pink Rose interaction with Nicole, I'm unsure. I don't know if you reject both anal & a BJ if she accepts you on Swyper. I've never tested it.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

if you have a sexuall encounter and money is involved, its prostitution. no matter how hard you sugarcoat it.

So technically, going on a date with a girl, paying for everything and ending up in bed with her counts as prostitution?

 

[katzenstreu]

So technically, going on a date with a girl, paying for everything and ending up in bed with her counts as prostitution?

no, because its not a direct transaction.

 

[katzenstreu]

There's definitely different interactions based on your affinity. Lily is very generous to the MC if he's a CHICK. She's a little less harsh to a DIK MC if you don't stick a finger in her ass.

did anyone ever stick his finger into her ass and shifted to CHICK before the blowjob in the mansion?
shit, i need to do a new playthrough. ^^

 

[Crusader of Romance]

C'mon man don"t be such a asskisser, is beneath you... just read post #2 from this thread... dpc hit success and then he hid in his ivory tower simple as that...

He hit success before this, unless you don't count Acting Lessons as successful. You don't think he has any right to be upset about people pirating the game he works so hard on and makes a living on or from getting death threats because people didn't like how he wrote the game.
Being OK with early promotion leaks doesn't mean you have to be OK with people stealing the game for years. And thinking a guy has the rights to his own creation isn't asskissing.

 

[cayseron]

if you have a sexuall encounter and money is involved, its prostitution. no matter how hard you sugarcoat it.

so by your logic, even after you get married, if you buy your lovely wife flowers and then she sleeps with you she is a prostitute?

 

[Crusader of Romance]

no, because its not a direct transaction.

But paying for a lapdance and the girl decide to give you something extra is? And you said a sexuall encounter and money is involved.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

did anyone ever stick his finger into her ass and shifted to CHICK before the blowjob in the mansion?
shit, i need to do a new playthrough. ^^

If I'm reading the code correctly, I believe Lily hating you overrides you being CHICK/Neutral, so she'll still charge your ass.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

If I'm reading the code correctly, I believe Lily hating you overrides you being CHICK/Neutral, so she'll still charge your ass.

This is true. I have tested it myself.

 

[BorgiaBou]

He hit success before this, unless you don't count Acting Lessons as successful.

Yeah he did not hit success with that he was only on an ascending path, he hit big with this one... the guy clearly comes here pretty much begging for help with this game but you don't see the irony... but you are right there is no sense for me to try convince you otherwise...

 

[dontehall2023]

So technically, going on a date with a girl, paying for everything and ending up in bed with her counts as prostitution?

No. Paying for a date & paying for sex are different things completely. A date is usually used as a social interaction with a byproduct of getting to know a person. Regardless of intent. People may think that because they pay for everything on a date that sex is implied. But it is not guaranteed.

Paying for sex is completely transactional. You are paying for a service. Spending money on a person you are courting or are currently in a relationship with is not the same thing. Buying a girl chocolates & she gives you a BJ is not the same as visiting a brothel & paying for sex. Unless chocolate is the currency she takes.

 

[cayseron]

He hit success before this, unless you don't count Acting Lessons as successful. You don't think he has any right to be upset about people pirating the game he works so hard on and makes a living on or from getting death threats because people didn't like how he wrote the game.
Being OK with early promotion leaks doesn't mean you have to be OK with people stealing the game for years. And thinking a guy has the rights to his own creation isn't asskissing.

I am inclined to side with you on this because yes it sucks to have your own creation leaked for free especially when its supposedly your main income. And death threats just sucks and is simple reminder of how shitty humans are. But lets not pretend this site is killing DPC income or whatever. DPC would have 0 income and would never be able to get sustained from this if not for freely posting his game on itch.io. He was willingly posting his own games out for free hoping someone give him money volontarilly, and its only now that he found bunch of "benevolent benefactors" who is paying him over 100$ each month that he is having strong opinions on how this sites work. i mean game is being sold on steam for like 10$ or something (its a bit more than that), i understand why he is desperate to keep his patrons happy, but in the same time its the patrons who leak to these sites in the first place so go figure. My point is, f95 is the source of his income far more than it takes from it as majority of his patrons first saw the game here, tried it, liked it and decided to support the development. So its a bit more nuanced than "boo hoo they are playing game for free"

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Yeah he did not hit success with that he was only on an ascending path, he hit big with this one... the guy clearly comes here pretty much begging for help with this game but you don't see the irony... but you are right there is no sense for me to try convince you otherwise...

Please show where he begged for help. I must have missed that post.
But no matter what, posting in this forum does NOT mean he consents to people pirating his games for all time. If you truly believe this, I hope you never work in retail.
If you go to a candy store and the owner gives you a free sample, that doesn't mean you're allowed to eat the candy there anytime you choose for the rest of your life.

But you are posting here, so I guess that means any game you would create will be free forever, right?

 

[cayseron]

No. Paying for a date & paying for sex are different things completely. A date is usually used as a social interaction with a byproduct of getting to know a person. Regardless of intent. People may think that because they pay for everything on a date that sex is implied. But it is not guaranteed.

Paying for sex is completely transactional. You are paying for a service. Spending money on a person you are courting or are currently in a relationship with is not the same thing. Buying a girl chocolates & she gives you a BJ is not the same as visiting a brothel & paying for sex. Unless chocolate is the currency she takes.

well what you just said is exactly why some of us advocate nicole is not a prostitute because money is part of her job as stripper and you pay for lap dance. Sex on the other hand comes after and on her own free will and she does not ask for extra money, just like how after you pay for a date its on the date to choose if she wants to sleep with you

 

[katzenstreu]

so by your logic, even after you get married, if you buy your lovely wife flowers and then she sleeps with you she is a prostitute?

sure, and the flower dealer is the pimp.

But paying for a lapdance and the girl decide to give you something extra is? And you said a sexuall encounter and money is involved.

paying for the lapdance is already a sexual transaction. i dont see much difference between strippers, hookers and porn
actresses.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

No. Paying for a date & paying for sex are different things completely. A date is usually used as a social interaction with a byproduct of getting to know a person. Regardless of intent. People may think that because they pay for everything on a date that sex is implied. But it is not guaranteed.

Paying for sex is completely transactional. You are paying for a service. Spending money on a person you are courting or are currently in a relationship with is not the same thing. Buying a girl chocolates & she gives you a BJ is not the same as visiting a brothel & paying for sex. Unless chocolate is the currency she takes.

But if you don't pay for sex but still get sex? That was my point. He said anytime money is involved, it's prostitution, my argument is that if you don't pay for the sex it's not.

 

[felicemastronzo]

So technically, going on a date with a girl, paying for everything and ending up in bed with her counts as prostitution?

if she then has sex just because you paid for everything is really borderline...

 

[cayseron]

Please show where he begged for help. I must have missed that post.
But no matter what, posting in this forum does NOT mean he consents to people pirating his games for all time. If you truly believe this, I hope you never work in retail.
If you go to a candy store and the owner gives you a free sample, that doesn't mean you're allowed to eat the candy there anytime you choose for the rest of your life.

But you are posting here, so I guess that means any game you would create will be free forever, right?

again, its not that simple. I mean, imagine alternative. instead of working the way he does, simply work on the game for years without patreon, finish it without feedback, and then put it out on steam for sale. yes he would probably sell lot more copies because people would not be able to play it for free but also the amount of money he gets from sales would be pisstake compared to what he gets from patreon each month to have people feel involved in the process (not to mention whales who are paying hundreds for a name in credits)

 

[Crusader of Romance]

I am inclined to side with you on this because yes it sucks to have your own creation leaked for free especially when its supposedly your main income. And death threats just sucks and is simple reminder of how shitty humans are. But lets not pretend this site is killing DPC income or whatever. DPC would have 0 income and would never be able to get sustained from this if not for freely posting his game on itch.io. He was willingly posting his own games out for free hoping someone give him money volontarilly, and its only now that he found bunch of "benevolent benefactors" who is paying him over 100$ each month that he is having strong opinions on how this sites work. i mean game is being sold on steam for like 10$ or something (its a bit more than that), i understand why he is desperate to keep his patrons happy, but in the same time its the patrons who leak to these sites in the first place so go figure. My point is, f95 is the source of his income far more than it takes from it as majority of his patrons first saw the game here, tried it, liked it and decided to support the development. So its a bit more nuanced than "boo hoo they are playing game for free"

I agree on most of what you say, my point is that just because he used to post and because this site made his game more famous doesn't mean he loses the rights to his own creation. Not being OK with the game being pirated is his right. Just because he was OK with it the first 2 episodes doesn't mean he has to be OK with the game being posted here forever.
And he's not alone. Many games here have a statement that the Dev is not OK with it being posted here.

 

[dontehall2023]

well what you just said is exactly why some of us advocate nicole is not a prostitute because money is part of her job as stripper and you pay for lap dance. Sex on the other hand comes after and on her own free will and she does not ask for extra money, just like how after you pay for a date its on the date to choose if she wants to sleep with you

I think you're playing a game of semantics. If you pay Nicole $$$$ for a "VIP Experience" & with that experience comes either a BJ or anal sex, I'd say you're paying for sex.

If you believe that the "VIP Experience" was just a lap dance & she added a BJ & anal sex to the menu because she liked you, that's fine. She does allude at the end of said interaction that other girls do similar things.