Gunizz

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I think DPC is not very inspired when it comes to Jill's storyline. It seems like she is a character that is supposed to be there, that MUST be there for obvious reasons, but it is below par when it comes to Jill's storyline and dialogue. I understand that there are plot holes and very borderline situations in various other parts, but I feel like the best parts of Jill are when DPC has to throw in Tybalt or Derek for the comic relief. I find Jill's characterization a bit weak and very standardized.
 

The Krogan Dude

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I think DPC is not very inspired when it comes to Jill's storyline. It seems like she is a character that is supposed to be there, that MUST be there for obvious reasons, but it is below par when it comes to Jill's storyline and dialogue. I understand that there are plot holes and very borderline situations in various other parts, but I feel like the best parts of Jill are when DPC has to throw in Tybalt or Derek for the comic relief. I find Jill's characterization a bit weak and very standardized.
Jill had one job. Introduce Bianca to us ;)
 

saynotoNTR

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I think DPC is not very inspired when it comes to Jill's storyline. It seems like she is a character that is supposed to be there, that MUST be there for obvious reasons, but it is below par when it comes to Jill's storyline and dialogue. I understand that there are plot holes and very borderline situations in various other parts, but I feel like the best parts of Jill are when DPC has to throw in Tybalt or Derek for the comic relief. I find Jill's characterization a bit weak and very standardized.
Jill is too stupid for my taste. The scene where she believes that the MC stole her panties and not Tybalt is absurd. At this point in the game, the MC could be CHICK, be on Bella's good side (unlike Tybalt), have positive RP with her and even help her with the recital while all Tybalt did was blackmail her into having a few dates with him. It makes no sense.

Also, Jill needs a wake-up call. People are complex, her saying she doesn't believe in the MC because he does good and bad things is a testament to how disconnected from reality she is. People don't just make CHICK choices their whole lives, just like they don't make DIK choices their whole lives either. I'm not surprised Jill was added to the game at the last minute, she doesn't fit in with the wild world of Being a DIK.

Jill had one job. Introduce Bianca to us ;)
At least Jill was helpful at some point. :KEK:
 

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I think DPC is not very inspired when it comes to Jill's storyline. It seems like she is a character that is supposed to be there, that MUST be there for obvious reasons, but it is below par when it comes to Jill's storyline and dialogue. I understand that there are plot holes and very borderline situations in various other parts, but I feel like the best parts of Jill are when DPC has to throw in Tybalt or Derek for the comic relief. I find Jill's characterization a bit weak and very standardized.
bruh ; have you ever fak an AIRHEAD GIRL. she does not need to inspire ya - you just need to put your dik IN

BEING A DIK

HOP ON THE ALADY TRAIN WITH US :cool:
 

Chalk boss

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In a college full of idiots, sluts, bullies and rich assholes, Jill was a breath of fresh air. As you say she can't be considered a "typical girl next door", she is just a naive nice rich girl (too nice sometimes) who cares about the MC, without caring who he is or what fraternity belongs. I agree DPC made some huge mistakes during season 2, but overall she is, as I said before, the (almost) perfect waifu
There's no conflict in Jill's arc. This is why her entire arc is perceived as somewhat sterile and boring.
Tybalt? No one takes him seriously. No one seriously believed he could win Jill's heart. Not to mention how much DPС humiliated Tybalt the entire game.
The connection to MC's mother. But it's not a conflict. Also Lynette's diary is the most boring part of the whole plot.
Conflict with the parents over MC's past. But there isn't. He's well received.
Unfortunately DPС can't create an interesting conflict that drives the story, other than the possible cheating with Bianca. This shows his low level as a screenwriter.
You ask what would you do?
Okay, I would have initially changed Jill's character a bit. The foundation of any art is contrast.
For example, Jill could have argued with Bianca about dating MC. It could have been a bet of sorts. It would have immediately added ambiguity and drama to Jill's character, she stopped being such a one-note right and flat uninteresting character.

Sure, I agree Jill's character is a contrast in itself compared to other female characters who are sexually active. But I'd like to get a lot more out of her line than the words that characterize her, which are more like an obituary than a living person: kind, sympathetic, sweet.
Right now, the only two things that can get me on Jill's branch are the cheating with Bianca and the threesome with Bella. And he gets it.
 

Gunizz

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Jill had one job. Introduce Bianca to us ;)
LOL that's so cruel but true.
Fun fact: each time I replayed the last episode, during the party's free roam, I tried desperately to click on Bianca every time I saw her, to see if I could interact with her despite being on a full DIK not on Jill's path.
It's a real injustice that it's not possible to get to know Bianca when MC isn't involved in a relationship with Jill. Bianca seems like a girl very suitable for a DIK MC and not so much for a CHICK MC. For example, it would be great to be able to corrupt Jill with Bianca's help. BDSM scenarios and interesting triangles could open up.

Don't forget also this: Jill introduces MC to her mother Amalia. I have a dream.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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This version of Jill (putting Rusty in his place) is the best version of Jill. Sassy and confident in the right measure. It doesn't even seem like the same naive Jill from S2.

What was that scene in EP.10 (MC out of Jill's path) where Jill preferred to believe that the MC had stolen her panties instead of Tybalt? WTF?! Jill at this point in the game has already become one of my least favorite characters.
I recently wrote a post that she has the right to doubt you if you are not her boyfriend, since you are not so closely related. From MC this is an act of a degenerate to sneak into her room, violating her privacy, and of course she has doubts.
It's funnier in her path, where MC looks ashamed and Jill is in a completely dominant position :ROFLMAO:
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saynotoNTR

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absolutely it seems to me more likely to be a flashforward, flashbacks usually explain something, that one only serves to ‘intrigue’
I reviewed the scene and tried to find some clue as to whether the scene was a flashforward. I believe you are correct: The scene is a flashforward and not a flashback.

Two reasons make me believe this from now on:

1- The furniture in the scene is the same as the one shown in EP.10;
2- The picture frame that was on the table where Bella's computer is located is no longer there. The first time MC goes to Bella's house, he can interact with the picture frame, remember? After this episode, the picture frame disappears along with other things, like that huge painting that Bella kept in her locked room.

I'm just not 100% sure because Bella's Christmas tree is in the same position as her crooked furniture (the furniture that seems to hide some stain on the floor).

With EP.11 coming, I give my final answer: IT'S A FLASH FORWARD.

Thank you for opening my mind. :cool:
 

ZenoMod

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Sancho is not on F95 anymore anyway, so using his mods on past versions will mean you have to remove it and fix your saves with the next update. Unless he returns, it wouldn't be smart to use them now.

But Sancho provides a save fixer in the same page of his mod.

Until now I've always been able to load saves made with Sancho Mod installed with unmodded games (both same release and newer release) just by dropping the small save fixer file in my "game" folder.
 

Ottoeight

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There's no conflict in Jill's arc. This is why her entire arc is perceived as somewhat sterile and boring.
Perceived by whom? by you, of course, but not by me.



Tybalt? No one takes him seriously. No one seriously believed he could win Jill's heart. Not to mention how much DPС humiliated Tybalt the entire game.
The connection to MC's mother. But it's not a conflict. Also Lynette's diary is the most boring part of the whole plot.
Conflict with the parents over MC's past. But there isn't. He's well received.
Unfortunately DPС can't create an interesting conflict that drives the story, other than the possible cheating with Bianca. This shows his low level as a screenwriter.
Sorry, but could you tell me who these infamous and serious antagonists are supposed to be?

do you really think that Stephen Burke is MC's antagonist? Maya's dad? Tommy? Beth?

do you see any real conflict anywhere? in Sage's path? in Maya's? in Josy's? in Bella's? in the common storyline?

I DO NOT


Being a DIK is a comedy, bro.
 
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