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Being a DIK gives neutral impression and sometimes a negative impression. Essentially, if you go neutral affinity like I did, you would have +4, and would successfully have gotten the documents.

Since my options was sage wasn't there and confronted since neutral affinity allows for that option.
I did specify that it would be a DIK affinity run. And on Neutral affinity the Chick option isn't available if you fought the jocks or Tommy. (Technically the code adds fighting Caleb, but since fighting him is only possible if you fought the jocks it's a meaningless condition.)
it is possible.
be as nice as possible at the first meeting in mayas dorm, bring sage, dont trigger him and dont get caught upstairs.
edit: and dont punch him. ^^
Read the the entire post why don't you. Context is kind of important here. It wasn't that long.

Seriously what is so hard about this for you two?

There are ways to play the first two seasons so that you are guaranteed to get at least 6 suspicion points and getting the documents becomes impossible.

If you are too rude to Patrick, fight Tommy or the Jocks and choose the DIK option with at least four other major choices, you can no longer get the documents. If you are too rude and get permanent DIK affinity it's impossible even if you don't fight Tommy or the jocks. Yes it's possible to do that. You've even got room for one more Chick choice.
 
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I did specify that it would be a DIK affinity run. And on Neutral affinity the Chick option isn't available if you fought the jocks or Tommy. (Technically the code adds fighting Caleb, but since fighting him is only possible if you fought the jocks it's a meaningless condition.)

Read the the entire post why don't you. Context is kind of important here. It wasn't that long.

Seriously what is so hard about this for you two?

There are ways to play the first two seasons so that you are guaranteed to get at least 6 suspicion points and getting the documents becomes impossible.

If you are too rude to Patrick, fight Tommy or the Jocks and choose the DIK option with at least four other major choices, you can no longer get the documents. If you are too rude and get permanent DIK affinity it's impossible even if you don't fight Tommy or the jocks. Yes it's possible to do that. You've even got room for one more Chick choice.
sorry, my bad.
 
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I did specify that it would be a DIK affinity run. And on Neutral affinity the Chick option isn't available if you fought the jocks or Tommy. (Technically the code adds fighting Caleb, but since fighting him is only possible if you fought the jocks it's a meaningless condition.)

Read the the entire post why don't you. Context is kind of important here. It wasn't that long.

Seriously what is so hard about this for you two?

There are ways to play the first two seasons so that you are guaranteed to get at least 6 suspicion points and getting the documents becomes impossible.

If you are too rude to Patrick, fight Tommy or the Jocks and choose the DIK option with at least four other major choices, you can no longer get the documents. If you are too rude and get permanent DIK affinity it's impossible even if you don't fight Tommy or the jocks. Yes it's possible to do that. You've even got room for one more Chick choice.

First of all, I was talking to Lizzard who was saying that they needed to start an entire run because apparently they needed to be a massive dik to get the documents which is not the case cause you can get them at any affinity by just following the screenshot that I posted.

I read it and it seems, we are both right. Essentially what me and you are arguing about is what color of blue is the sky, its still fucking blue.
 

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First of all, I was talking to Lizzard who was saying that they needed to start an entire run because apparently they needed to be a massive dik to get the documents which is not the case cause you can get them at any affinity by just following the screenshot that I posted.

I read it and it seems, we are both right. Essentially what me and you are arguing about is what color of blue is the sky, its still fucking blue.
Cerulean blue...
 

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First of all, I was talking to Lizzard who was saying that they needed to start an entire run because apparently they needed to be a massive dik to get the documents which is not the case cause you can get them at any affinity by just following the screenshot that I posted.

I read it and it seems, we are both right. Essentially what me and you are arguing about is what color of blue is the sky, its still fucking blue.
Lizzard called it a Massive DIK Sage run. I took this to mean that they didn't simply go for permanent DIK affinity, but chose the DIK option at every small choice as well including the meeting with Patrick and got all three suspicion points from it. In order to get the documents they need to now replay the run while making the specific Chick choices in an otherwise completely DIK run.

Do you think I misunderstood them?
 
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You don't think that there will be a player option (if we want to) to break the throuple and stick with one or the other?
Hopefully, but what I meant is I don't think he will do a canon, forced, if you will breakup for the throuple. I am sure the player will have to influence it/encourage it.

And 100% an ending. Now we hope that all, or most routes will get an ending, but I am not so sure he will not pull some BS, for in his mind Bitter-Sweet Endings, or how I prefer to call them Grabbing my Pitchfork, almost as hard as Bianca's ass next update.

Probably no
8179-pepe-lighter-1717973399.gif this time around.


But, circling back to your post, how would people feel if the solo routes can only come from Other route? Do you still feel they are worth it to play two seasons two and a half seasons of a different game, than the one you are making the save for?:unsure:
 
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Lizzard called it a Massive DIK Sage run. I took this to mean that they didn't simply go for permanent DIK affinity, but chose the DIK option at every small choice as well including the meeting with Patrick and got all three suspicion points from it. In order to get the documents they need to now replay the run while making the specific Chick choices in an otherwise completely DIK run.

Do you think I misunderstood them?


Or maybe that's me being salty about restarting my Massive DIK Sage run because I didnt confide in Josy so Sage wasnt there and I couldnt get the documents. lol
I took this as both ngl and no, but like I was saying earlier and pointing out what they can do so they dont fail to get the documents.
 
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You don't think that there will be a player option (if we want to) to break the throuple and stick with one or the other?
Statistically we are more likely to suffer such a choice. In the event that we have not balanced the attention well toward the 2 girls, the trouple's dream may collapse, and although it is counter-intuitive (being left pee having given too much attention) , there is a risk that the only one left out will be MC again.
 

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Hopefully, but what I meant is I don't think he will do a canon, forced, if you will breakup for the throuple. I am sure the player will have to influence it/encourage it.

And 100% an ending. Now we hope that all, or most routes will get an ending, but I am no so sure he will not pull some BS, for in his mind Bitter-Sweet Endings, or how I prefer to call them Grabbing my Pitchfork, almost as hard as Bianca's ass next update.

Probably no
View attachment 4440403 this time around.


But, circling back to your post, how would people feel if the solo routes can only come from Other route? Do you still feel they are worth it to play two seasons two and a half seasons of a different game, than the one you are making the save for?:unsure:
I see what you mean. Yes, that would be a pretty dick move if we are forced to break up the throuple.

The scary part about solos on others, is even more development time if they are extra routes. If my theory is correct and we will have 5 possible M/J paths. (2x solos, 1 throuple, 1 complete break up, 1 MC leaves M&J stay together), we really don't want to add in another 2 paths. DPC could use the same renders (If he wanted to), but dialogue would have to be changed.

But, if the solos are only available on others route and not from throuple, (it's still only 5 branches) and I have a monk path set up anyway that I could use for them. I think I was about 50/50 Josy & Maya, so I might just have to check and adjust their points to try both of the paths.
 

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Hi, i started a new game, but i have the special render, how to delete?

You've got to delete your "permanent" file both from your "game\save" folder and from your Ren'Py backup folder.

On windows that folder is "%APPDATA%\renpy\BeingADIK-weirdnumberhere"
 
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Seems to be some kind of issue getting Envy to sign MC's "DIK". Any ideas why?

Party Without Limits > Get Rid of Derek (starts Envy's path) > Ask for Private Dance > ???? (tried all three options separately re-loading the save) > Envy isn't click-able afterwards, yet the Walkthrough Guide says it should be available afterwards.

Was there something I missed perhaps from earlier choices?

edit: Never mind, I'm dumb.
 

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was thinking, a conversation with Sage could be fun where she curiously asks who you've slept with, shes like 1 person before college, and chad

Mc looks at her and goes
"Zoey, Josy, Maya, Quinn, Sarah, Bella, Camilla, Mona, Riona, Lily, Nicole.."'and so on

and Sage just looks progressively more concerned and MC goes "we were just fuckbuddies right?"
 

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The conversation is going all over the place so I'm just going to explain my reasoning in detail.

DPC could have programmed the success/failure of getting the documents like this: Punch Patrick -> fail, Rescue Maya -> succeed, Confront Patrick -> success depends on behaviour. The meaning of the Patrick choice would be in the success.

However, it is possible to choose the Chick option and still fail and the DIK option and still succeed. The existence of these possibilities implies that how you deal with Patrick and whether you get the documents have more intricate consequences. And since these options exist for all paths the consequences should likewise affect all paths.

No doubt the meta objective is to create intricacy for the final ending's good/bad status so that players have motive to replay the game to see it all, but this should feel natural from the story perspective.

I assume that the endings will depend largely on how you score on the major choices across the game and thus the Patrick choice means something for all paths, but since the document success and failure are possibilities on all options they must have an effect beyond adding flavour to the Patrick choice.

I assume that DPC intends for it to be possible to split Josy and Maya up for solo paths and also for the throuple to last. I also assume that Josy is going to have some drama that is directly hers rather than second hand from Maya. Leaving these to s 4 would be rather late in the game so I assume they will happen either in ep 11 or 12.

Getting the documents is winning a battle. That battle does not decide the entire war, but it is the basis for Maya's (and also other's) mood in the near future. If Josy's drama happens soon, it would be natural for that mood to decide if Maya and Josy stay together or if it is just too much and they crumble. The player has agency on their staying together, but indirectly. It would be more complicated than how much of an asshole the MC is.

If it is planned for the solo paths to exist it wouldn't take much extra effort to add the break up for all paths and that would naturally increase the intricacy that will allow a more complicated set of endings.

To sum up: DPC went out of his way to make the results of the Patrick choice more complicated than they needed to be. He isn't guaranteed to make these twists just because I see the opportunity for it, but it seems to me that he deliberately created that opportunity. So why would he waste it?

And one last thing. What is Josy's drama going to be? Well Tommy has a drug problem and his girlfriend just broke up with him. He might simply OD. Or he could get hurt in the Rio rescue. I don't think he would die, but it would be a major crisis for the Taylor family. We'd finally meet Monica (and possibly get to fuck her) and it would also open up possibilities for Heather.
 
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was thinking, a conversation with Sage could be fun where she curiously asks who you've slept with, shes like 1 person before college, and chad

Mc looks at her and goes
"Zoey, Josy, Maya, Quinn, Sarah, Bella, Camilla, Mona, Riona, Lily, Nicole.."'and so on

and Sage just looks progressively more concerned and MC goes "we were just fuckbuddies right?"
Actually it's implied that Sage and Chad never fucked.
 
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