VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Riaman]

I doubt it would've helped to make the call, since Tommy would've never agreed to it and Quinn much lesser of a chance to try to sell to the preps. Imo that wasn't really a dumb moment, but tough luck because of the prep pulling out of the deal.

They had alternatives in Pink Roses. She purposely hid it. She's a habitual liar and even lied that Riona is smoking for free to shift blame on Riona.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Mm i've played that a couple of times, but I seriously can't remember seeing Quinn in that scene. Ah well, I will pay better attention during my next run. But we only see her storming out, is there any proof the deal is broken?

 

[Chillout1984]

They had alternatives in Pink Roses. She purposely hid it. She's a habitual liar and even lied that Riona is smoking for free to shift blame on Riona.

That alternative would've been accepted by Rusty, but almost certainly not by Tommy. I believe he also wanted Quinn to come to buy more drugs, which he could not do with the Pink Roses.

Is telling Derek a canon path? Anyways wasn't the response that I don't believe you.

I believe that at first Derek doesn't believe you, but he believes you a couple of sentences later (as he usually does).

View attachment 4521990

Mm totally missed that, probably becauseI was clicking to fast through the text. I can remember Quinn in that scene now that I see it, but I totally missed Stephen.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Lily is smart, Quinn probably not. Quinn can only push buttons of those on whom she has a hook. For all the chess master she thinks she is, she is pretty dumb. Her screwing with Maya unnecessarily just for lolz destroyed her pimp business. There are many more dumb things she has done.

Quinn's plans have a 0 success rate for now. But Lily's first idea is about to start a war with Vinnie. Not a good impression as a criminal mastermind

 

[Chillout1984]

Quinn's plans have a 0 success rate for now. But Lily's first idea is about to start a war with Vinnie. Not a good impression as a criminal mastermind

To be fair, except for the Maya debacle, imo the other few plans we see Quinn has failed were because of bad luck, not because they were bad plans.

 

[NebulousShooter]

There are two type of girls, girls like Sally turning their heads to look and girls like Yoga Girl turning their head to appear they aren't looking

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Also a totally different question: Is it possible in Season 2 to get the "others" option while being neutral? I followed an achievement guide on steam and in the end Neutral gave me the same end options as the Chick route.

The Others path doesn't depend on affinity. If Jill's path is active or Josy & Maya's path, the Others path is blocked. The implication is that with Jill and J&M MC has gone so far that he can no longer go back to playing the field, while with Sage or Bella he can still doubt having a relationship at all. It's ironic because Sage and Bella seem like the most solid relationships in the game.

 

[Riaman]

View attachment 4522110

There are two type of girls, girls like Sally turning their heads to look and girls like Yoga Girl turning their head to appear they aren't looking

Yoga girl is such a tease.

 

[felicemastronzo]

To be fair, except for the Maya debacle, imo the other few plans we see Quinn has failed were because of bad luck, not because they were bad plans.

Bad luck is not enough to explain so many failures. Quinn's moves are always excessive and desperate. Already deciding that it is a good idea to sell to the preps is questionable, but deciding not to warn the diks, as Sage also asked, is simply asking for trouble. And the relationship with Tommy was also important economically

 

[Riaman]

Quinn's plans have a 0 success rate for now. But Lily's first idea is about to start a war with Vinnie. Not a good impression as a criminal mastermind

Though in Lily's defence she is a customer. At the worst she has to switch back to him. Vinny wants to sell to them. Whereas Quinn's livelihood is dependent on it. Different stakes for both of them.

 

[Chillout1984]

Bad luck is not enough to explain so many failures. Quinn's moves are always excessive and desperate. Already deciding that it is a good idea to sell to the preps is questionable, but deciding not to warn the diks, as Sage also asked, is simply asking for trouble. And the relationship with Tommy was also important economically

"So many failures" I've only counted 3 or 4 plans of hers in the game of which 1 was doing relatively fine (drugsselling) until she was robbed of the newly bought drugs which made her prices skyrocket.

And again, as she expected (and we found out) if she called Tommy she would killed her plan with almost 0% chance of success, instead of what happened now.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Though in Lily's defence she is a customer. At the worst she has to switch back to him. Vinny wants to sell to them. Whereas Quinn's livelihood is dependent on it. Different stakes for both of them.

. I have doubts that Lily was simply a client with Vinnie, and not already an intermediary as now with Quinn. But even if she were just a client, to "betray" Vinnie without thinking that there will be consequences is very naive

 

[The Krogan Dude]

Quinn's plans have a 0 success rate for now. But Lily's first idea is about to start a war with Vinnie. Not a good impression as a criminal mastermind

Lily just wanted lower prices for her drugs, not starting a war but indeed I don't buy the mastermind girl persona DPC is trying to sell. The way Lily switched suppliers was stupid. Her excuses for not buying drugs from Vinnie wouldn't have fooled a half brain dimwit and instantly buying from another dealer selling the exact same product was even more stupid. Even the way she immediately came to Quinn's rescue when Vinnie arrived in Episode 9 was suss. It was litteraly admitting to Vinnie she knew about Quinn being a dealer too and that they were acquainted. It was almost a direct confession.

A smart girl would have waited a couple of weeks before buying from another seller and started small so it wouldn't have aroused suspicion but aparently Lily is supposed to be one of the smartest character of the game, that's probably why the bar is not very high.

 

[Riaman]

Lily just wanted lower prices for her drugs, not starting a war but indeed I don't buy the mastermind girl persona DPC is trying to sell. The way Lily switched suppliers was stupid. Her excuses for not buying drugs from Vinnie wouldn't have fooled a half brain dimwit and instantly buying from another dealer selling the exact same product was even more stupid. Even the way she immediately came to Quinn's rescue when Vinnie arrived in Episode 9 was suss. It was litteraly admitting to Vinnie she knew about Quinn being a dealer too and that they were acquainted. It was almost a direct confession.

A smart girl would have waited a couple of weeks before buying from another seller and started small so it wouldn't have aroused suspicion but aparently Lily is supposed to be one of the smartest character of the game, that's probably why the bar is not very high.

Yeah, should have taken the slow and steady approach. Can't disagree.

 

[felicemastronzo]

"So many failures" I've only counted 3 or 4 plans of hers in the game of which 1 was doing relatively fine (drugsselling) until she was robbed of the newly bought drugs which made her prices skyrocket.

And again, as she expected (and we found out) if she called Tommy she would killed her plan with almost 0% chance of success, instead of what happened now.

We do not know what would have happened if Quinn had warned the diks. We do know that it was for nothing and that if it were not for the relationship between mc and Sage the relationship with the diks would not have been rebuilt.

In my opinion it is not 4, even Mona's management remains a failure, but even if it were 4 it is 4 flops out of 4.

Only Dawe and Arieth, gave her a small victory

 

[Maccabbee]

Bad luck is not enough to explain so many failures. Quinn's moves are always excessive and desperate. Already deciding that it is a good idea to sell to the preps is questionable, but deciding not to warn the diks, as Sage also asked, is simply asking for trouble. And the relationship with Tommy was also important economically

People from abusive backgrounds often have difficulty acknowledging responsibility for failure, or have problems apologizing, because failure often came with serious ramifications in their past. Quinn displays that, and seems to often double-down rather than simply apologizing.

Her "fucking with people" is another thing, and seems to be a core personality trait: she does it to everyone, whether she likes them or not. She loves pushing buttons and provoking reactions. Her shit with Maya is part of that, as is her shit with Tremolo and Tommy. Sage is pretty much the only one we haven't seen her do this with, maybe because Sage is tougher, or because they have a better relationship? It's not a matter of intelligence, it's just who she is.

 

[Chillout1984]

We do not know what would have happened if Quinn had warned the diks. We do know that it was for nothing and that if it were not for the relationship between mc and Sage the relationship with the diks would not have been rebuilt.

In my opinion it is not 4, even Mona's management remains a failure, but even if it were 4 it is 4 flops out of 4.

Only Dawe and Arieth, gave her a small victory

Tommy says himself he would've never agreed with the strippers because he had a deal with the hots and would do everything in his power to get them from the preps.

Also I wonder what is happening with Quinns Restaurant in Season 3. Even if she doesn't have the deal with Stephen anymore, she could easily use the money for herself. However everytime Tremolo has/wants sex with one of her "meals" in S3, he doesn't have to pay. The girls even initiate the sex themselfs a couple of times.

 

[Maccabbee]

. I have doubts that Lily was simply a client with Vinnie, and not already an intermediary as now with Quinn. But even if she were just a client, to "betray" Vinnie without thinking that there will be consequences is very naive

There is zero evidence of any relationship beyond dealer and occassional customer between Vinny and the dancers. Lily buying from someone else is not a betrayal, it's business. It's only dangerous because Vinny is a fucking psycho.

The betrayal is between Quinn and Vinny, who had an arrangement on territories they can and cannot operate in. The only real risk is Vinny moving into Quinn's territory, except, again, Vinny is a psycho, and Riona's paying the price.

 

[JJ1960]

The Others path doesn't depend on affinity. If Jill's path is active or Josy & Maya's path, the Others path is blocked. The implication is that with Jill and J&M MC has gone so far that he can no longer go back to playing the field, while with Sage or Bella he can still doubt having a relationship at all. It's ironic because Sage and Bella seem like the most solid relationships in the game.

Will Jill's path, she is insecure and inexperienced and their relationship is very wholesome so MC banging other chicks would be a deal-breaker if she found out.

On J&M's path, MC is so exhausted from all the threesomes he hasn't got the energy to get it up for anyone else.

 

[Chillout1984]

Will Jill's path, she is insecure and inexperienced and their relationship is very wholesome so MC banging other chicks would be a deal-breaker if she found out.

On J&M's path, MC is so exhausted from all the threesomes he hasn't got the energy to get it up for anyone else.

that's why I'm curious what will happen if Jill finds out what Tremolo did during Halloween (when on that route) to and with Bianca and what will almost certainly continue in episode 11. Not 1 but 2 of her closest friends have cheated on her, soon after 2 other of her other close friends betrayed her trust. People have committed suicide for lesser traumas, this would really break her heart.