Mormont

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Correct me if I'm wrong but when Josy says that she is going to move away and start anew doesn't the MC later find out from Maya or Josy that Josy was actually going to go be with Maya and try to work things out while telling people that she is moving far away?
She was ready to leave I think if she hadn't been accepted in she'd have followed through and have left leaving both the MC and Maya.
 

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Sage is pretty much Dik, if you are chick or neutral is almost impossible to bang her and go live with her.
I had minus 5 chick but neutral affinity and refused the first two lewd scenes with Sage but did the third one and fourth one where you sleep with her and become fuck buddies. I had the option of staying with Sage but went to Derek's for that steam achievement.

Its tricky navigating, gotta be a dik one moment and be a chick at the same time to stay in that Neutral area.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Stupid drop outs ruining our chance with Maya.
Nah, this is going to make things better, especially when taking Maya's virginity. :sneaky: Having Josy there with her will put her more at ease and give her something else to focus on, like kissing Josy or eating her out while the MC puts it in. In general, Josy will probably make Maya feel more relaxed and comfortable when doing things with the MC.
 

ename144

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Correct me if I'm wrong but when Josy says that she is going to move away and start anew doesn't the MC later find out from Maya or Josy that Josy was actually going to go be with Maya and try to work things out while telling people that she is moving far away?
I think those were two separate plans.

The original plan was for both Josy and Maya to attend B&R where they could be together in secret. That plan ran aground when Josy got stuck on the wait list and the two started arguing over what to do next.

Running away was Josy's new "plan" when it looked like she was a failure who couldn't get into college and the girl she loved didn't care about her anymore.
 

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I think those were two separate plans.

The original plan was for both Josy and Maya to attend B&R where they could be together in secret. That plan ran aground when Josy got stuck on the wait list and the two started arguing over what to do next.

Running away was Josy's new "plan" when it looked like she was a failure who couldn't get into college and the girl she loved didn't care about her anymore.
Another part of that original plan running aground might have also been Maya's Dad finding out about them and while Josy believed they could still be together in secret at B&R, Maya was probably worried that he'd find out somehow and this might have led to some of the arguing and fighting Maya mentioned to Derek.
 

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Another part of that original plan running aground might have also been Maya's Dad finding out about them and while Josy believed they could still be together in secret at B&R, Maya was probably worried that he'd find out somehow and this might have led to some of the arguing and fighting Maya mentioned to Derek.
It's possible, the timeline with Maya's dad is very vague. The fact they had a plan in the first place suggests to me they already knew Maya's dad was a problem. Granted, he could easily have become an even bigger problem in the meantime.

It was always her plan to get away because of the situation with Maya's father.
That's definitely not the impression I got. It sounded like the plan was for Josy to attend B&R (paid for mostly by her father) while staying in contact with her family as normal. The only secret part would be that she and Maya would be in a relationship.

Josy only talked about moving east and cutting ties her family (and Maya) once the school year started.
 

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When Maya's dad came to visit, and because I didn't know it was Maya's dad, my initial reaction was that she just banged some old man in her dorm for the HOT scavenger hunt.
 

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It's possible, the timeline with Maya's dad is very vague. The fact they had a plan in the first place suggests to me they already knew Maya's dad was a problem. Granted, he could easily have become an even bigger problem in the meantime.
When Maya's Dad found out and for how long their relationship was rocky because of it are certainly 2 questions that still need answered, but I don't really think they had much of a "plan" for their relationship whilst in college.

Attending the same college and being together was probably just something they expected would happen, not that it was necessarily part of some special plan. Maya's Dad finding out about them will be what really caused the problems because Maya now had to choose between him and Josy and it seems like she couldn't, and that's what caused the friction. Josy not initially getting into B&R was probably something Maya was unaware of due to her and Josy not talking as much and Josy "ghosting" her.

Josy only talked about moving east and cutting ties her family (and Maya) once the school year started.
She does break down on the second date and indicate that she was really hoping that getting into B&R would make everything "great again", which is probably an indicator that she was hoping to meet up with Maya again, but then during the phone conversation that set up the date said she she wanted to get away because "it's been tough lately." So it's hard to say for sure if this was a snap decision or if she had been thinking about it for some time.
 

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She was ready to leave I think if she hadn't been accepted in she'd have followed through and have left leaving both the MC and Maya.
I think those were two separate plans.

The original plan was for both Josy and Maya to attend B&R where they could be together in secret. That plan ran aground when Josy got stuck on the wait list and the two started arguing over what to do next.

Running away was Josy's new "plan" when it looked like she was a failure who couldn't get into college and the girl she loved didn't care about her anymore.
Another part of that original plan running aground might have also been Maya's Dad finding out about them and while Josy believed they could still be together in secret at B&R, Maya was probably worried that he'd find out somehow and this might have led to some of the arguing and fighting Maya mentioned to Derek.
Ok I had to satisfy my curiosity so when back and played a bit of the game (figured if they told the MC something it was after he finds out that Maya and Josy are dating) and this is what I found at the beginning of episode 4 after the Maya/Josy tent thing

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After this the MC goes to talk to Josy in the bathroom and he later leaves and we see Maya and Josy together and talking where it seems that Maya & Josy where still somewhat communicating since Josy says the on Saturday her dad took her phone and grounded her and Maya asks if she has it now and if she saw her texts and why she didn't respond to them

But its still not that clear if Josy's intentions where to just move away from everything since they drifted apart during the summer or to go along with the agreed plan to be with Maya (this would also explain why Maya was hesitant to have a new roommate). This could also mean that Maya wasn't totally ghosted as Josy was not answering her calls but maybe she was responding to her messages at some point
 
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Ok I had to satisfy my curiosity so when back and played a bit of the game (figured if they told the MC something it was after he finds out that Maya and Josy are dating) and this is what I found at the beginning of episode 4 after the Maya/Josy tent thing

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After this the MC goes to talk to Josy in the bathroom and he later leaves and we see Maya and Josy together and talking where it seems that Maya & Josy where still somewhat communicating since Josy says the on Saturday her dad took her phone and grounded her and Maya asks if she has it now and if she saw her texts and why she didn't respond to them

But its still not that clear if Josy's intentions where to just move away from everything since they drifted apart during the summer or to go along with the agreed plan to be with Maya (this would also explain why Maya was hesitant to have a new roommate). This could also mean that Maya wasn't totally ghosted as Josy was not answering her calls but maybe she was responding to her messages at some point
I went back and looked through the game too, though I got distracted by real life for a bit. It's tricky because the relevant dialog is split up all over the game.

First, Maya's dialog right before the part you showed might be important, because she does imply things have changed recently: "I think we were very close to breaking up. ... Things haven't been good between us lately. My dad kept me from seeing her and that didn't do us any good. And lately she's not been herself either. She doesn't answer my calls and last time I spoke to her she said she was giving up and moving far away. She was going to come here and we were gonna be together just like before... [and so on]"

Next, we travel back in time to when the MC gets a call from Josy at the end of his first day at B&R. Josy says she still hasn't heard back from B&R: "I think I will cut my losses already and just move on. I'm actually thinking of quitting my job and moving to the east coast... Maybe start working in a mall or do volunteer work, I don't know..." The MC can then either ask about the boyfriend or himself, and Josy says calling him was a bad idea. She goes on to say "I just... feel like I need to get away for a while." The MC then asks for the second quasi-date, Josy accepts. Immediately after they hang up, Josy asks herself "What am I doing?"

Note that at this point, Josy is at least framing the move as temporary. Fast forward to the date.

After dinner, the two discuss the MC's life at B&R. The MC asks if she heard about the wait list. Josy's mood immediately crashes and she says it's not going to happen. The MC says Tina told him Josy quit the minimart yesterday. Josy breaks down crying and explains:

"These last few months have been hell, [MC]. I've been so lonely and scared. And you know what I did? I told myself I would get accepted to B&R and that everything would be great again. And I actually believed it. I almost took it for granted. And now... I'm not going to get accepted. It's like the biggest blow to my psyche ever. I get anxiety attacks when I think about it. I can't breathe when I think of being stuck in this hole, living with dad and Monica for another year! I just have to get away from here and do something new and start all over."

The MC says he had no idea she was this upset. Josy responds "Meeting you made me feel different about this... It was exciting... I felt that spark that's been missing in my life for quite some time now. Relationships when you can't be with each other every week suck, by the way... Never do that with anyone."

When asked if she misses feeling loved, Josy says "More than anything... And now... I think of just cutting all ties and moving away. *Sniffles* great solution, Huh? Hah." "It's just that staying here does nothing for me. I would have to put up with Steve every day and have no friends to hang out with, because they all moved away. Growing up sucks!"

Phew, quite the transcript. Since Josy intentionally avoids discussing her 'boyfriend' in this exchange we're still forced to speculate. But here's my interpretation.

Josy and Maya got together during the flashback at the start of Episode 4, which happened some time before the summer. This was the time when Maya claims she was at her happiest. Maya's dad intervenes and forbids the relationship in a highly traumatic manner. Maya and Josy plan to both attend B&R and this time keep the relationship a secret.

Over the summer Maya and Josy 'drift apart' due to a combination of difficulty communicating and Josy's increasing panic as she starts to think she won't get accepted to B&R. This becomes a negative feedback loop, as the chances to communicate go from being a welcome oasis to yet one more thing to worry about [Josy much later describes Maya's texts as "Each one was meaner than the one before!"].

This continues until the game starts, near the end of the summer. Josy is still stuck on the wait list, then has her first date with the MC. She had probably though about running away before this, but just as an idle thought. Now she starts actually considering it. The school year starts and Josy is still waiting. She calls the MC to say she is thinking of moving out east "for a little while." Josy doesn't want to give up on Maya, but she's starting to feel trapped. The MC surprises her by asking for a second date. She agrees, but then immediately feels guilty.

Josy calls Maya and tries to explain she won't get into B&R and is thinking of moving away because she doesn't know what else to do. This goes very badly as Maya feels like Josy is abandoning her and Josy feels like she is already abandoned. So she spends the rest of the week alternately excited about seeing the MC and guilty about losing Maya for good.

The day before the date, Josy quits her job because she can't take it anymore. I think it's part of her rationalization: she can effectively think of the relationship with Maya as doomed and her date with the MC as a one night stand before she leaves. But naturally she still feels terrible about the whole thing. She discusses this with the MC and asks him to spend the night.

When the date ends and her parents come home early (one way or the other), Josy is effectively isolated until Wednesday. At that point she learns that a) she was accepted to B&R, b) Maya is really angry with her. She calls the MC to ask to stay with him, but is told no. Josy decides not to talk to Maya until she gets there and talks things over with the MC.

Upon arrival, she is assigned a room by the college housing authority (which clearly runs directly on plot requirements!), and we get the dramatic end to Episode 3.

So there we go. That's my forensic analysis of Josy's plans. I now eagerly await Episode 5 arriving to prove me completely wrong.

(Did it work? What about now? Dammit!)
 
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So did you lose the cum petition and eat the condom?
I have only played CHICK path but I still went all the way with Quinn in that scene every time I replay or change the path. It's a great scene even if you are a CHICK player tbh.
 

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Thanks for all the info. "When does the new update comes out" should be a first post info, if it isn't already.... I'm scared of how many pages this tread has, that's why I wasn't going for a search or read after the other posts.

Thanks a lot for the game suggestion, haven't heard of it. Downloading tonight.

And if you're scared of my username, don't check my subreddit....
At least, if you're also called "Ass Man" by derek, check only the posts under this tag:

Ah, and/or my Pornhub channel: :devilish:

Anyway, I'm hopefully that one day I can also do a Renpy game. Was looking for good games to have a reference. But BADik is so good that intimidates me instead. Ah, I'll get over it and probably make a much better game with this experience, specially after getting used to doing it.
I was joking about the username thing. Dont worry, if u ever see :ROFLMAO: emoticons like that after a phrase is that im joking around. When Drpinkcake, the dev of this game says the date of the next update is usually shared here by n7 so you will have to find posts by that username. Hope you enjoy the game i did recommend you;)
 
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