VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[MrFriendly]

Maya? Yes. Josy? No, not yet. Both fucked up, yeah but everyone deserves a second chance. I would give Josy that, since she fucked up for the first time. I don't have any interest in giving a chance to someone who fucked up her 5th chance. If she was a family member, sure but no. I don't want to see Ep 5 starting with their drama. We had enough already.

Eh, I feel like both of them are too much drama and not really worth dealing with it. Maya is trying to hide Josy from her family and will most likely use you to do that. Josy is the one who lied the most (IIRC) and didn't seem that broken up about it. Maya came to you in tears in public to try and talk.

The whole shift in emotion and tone from that scene in the gender studies room to the party was too much of a change. You go from angry and unwilling to talk to totally cool with everything and willing to either enter a sharing relationship or walk away with friendship while they play tonsil hockey with each other. That kiss and the way the MC is so obviously ancillary to them is why I was wondering if people thought there should have been a third choice.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I would say while that scene was the biggest problem, over the whole ep4 there where many problems.

At begin, both are like MC don't leave ect...after that i had expected some kind of fight, at least a heated argument...but nothing instead their all smiles after like 2 min mc left.

The following days, there's zero sign that they where close to break up, had a fight/argument...

At the party Josy want MC to talk with them, first thing u come in the room and they seem all over each other...feels kinda like a other slap in mc's face

Then what Bacchus said, that love confession there was just out of place and all infront mc
And than as u said, if u choose to stay friends, the whole scene basically screams they give a fuck for mc's feelings.

Probaly just me...maybe better if u have such a talk not if ur full drunk, high and just fucked Quinn on the roof

We may still be very early on in the game and things can still change, but this felt the fire incident all over again; a controversial story shift that has divided fans and ruined potentially good relationship options.

I know we all frequently heap fawning praise on DPC for being a good writer, and they are because of the way they write these characters that it makes you care so much about them, but no writer is perfect and I feel like they didn't really stick the landing here.

Absolutely accurate, the MC tells them he wants to be their friend and they immediately try to reach each others tonsils with their tongues?

Really do wonder why they included that I'm starting to think they have something against threesome relationships because the previous one got burned to a crisp and then this one treats the MC like an afterthought. Surely they knew that that scene would get people angry and it seems like that's the only reason they did it.

 

[Mormont]

Eh, I feel like both of them are too much drama and not really worth dealing with it. Maya is trying to hide Josy from her family and will most likely use you to do that. Josy is the one who lied the most (IIRC) and didn't seem that broken up about it. Maya came to you in tears in public to try and talk.

The whole shift in emotion and tone from that scene in the gender studies room to the party was too much of a change. You go from angry and unwilling to talk to totally cool with everything and willing to either enter a sharing relationship or walk away with friendship while they play tonsil hockey with each other. That kiss and the way the MC is so obviously ancillary to them is why I was wondering if people thought there should have been a third choice.

No third choice due to them being involved in the story either way, but he could have handled that scene a little bit better after 0.4 it was probably the most complained part of the update a lot of people thought it made no sense and that all the issues between them were then swept under the carpet if there is one scene that could have played out better it was that one.

 

[ExDeath730]

I still say a lot of it is down to that scene at the end of ep 4. For me, it did feel like they had built a strong connection in a short space of time, especially with Maya, but then they just seemed to forget he was there and that didn't feel right.

So they both cheated, OK, and they weren't mad at each other because they both did the same thing for the same reasons, fine, but that should have given them to pause to to be like, "what does this mean for us?" Telling each other they still love each other and then kissing and making up just felt out of place.

Had that scene played out differently, I think some, not necessarily all, but some people would have felt differently about them.

I agree with this. I guess how that entire scene played out, must have left a lot of players, in particular those who invested in them feeling like crap. Honestly, i'm saying this just trying to put myself in their shoes. My girl is Sage, and i only have saves for her and Bella, but man, that scene as still quite brutal. It didn't make me hate them, but it did make me wish for... I don't know, a vacation from their drama.

That and also, think with me. A lot of Maya fans were JUST Maya fans, i think the same could be said about Josy fans, they were just Josy fans. So for these guys this entire situation must be horrible, their only choice is to get in a 3-way relationship with a character they were "meh" about or even disliked. This is one of the reasons i hope for solo routes for them.

 

[MrFriendly]

No third choice due to them being involved in the story either way, but he could have handled that scene a little bit better after 0.4 it was probably the most complained part of the update a lot of people thought it made no sense and that all the issues between them were then swept under the carpet if there is one scene that could have played out better it was that one.

Yeah, I agree. I think that I'm probably taking my dislike of the entire situation out on the characters. But then I wasn't that big a Josy or Maya fan (I saw a redhead and I was done) so I was wanting more distance between them and the MC. Obviously I don't want DPC to add in a new choice, just leery of the game going forward continuing to force the MC to be actively part of the lives of two characters that screwed him over and seem to be mostly completely fine with it (no expressed remorse in that last scene if you choose friendship only).

I'd rather that the MC could actually choose "friendship" as in he can avoid hanging out with them for the rest of the game until he and Sage run away to have little redheaded kids together LOL.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I agree with this. I guess how that entire scene played out, must have left a lot of players, in particular those who invested in them feeling like crap. Honestly, i'm saying this just trying to put myself in their shoes. My girl is Sage, and i only have saves for her and Bella, but man, that scene as still quite brutal. It didn't make me hate them, but it did make me wish for... I don't know, a vacation from their drama.

That and also, think with me. A lot of Maya fans were JUST Maya fans, i think the same could be said about Josy fans, they were just Josy fans. So for these guys this entire situation must be horrible, their only choice is to get in a 3-way relationship with a character they were "meh" about or even disliked. This is one of the reasons i hope for solo routes for them.

I'm a fan of both of them, although I often lean more towards Maya, and it definitely hurt like hell. I went through so many emotions after all that which is why I now compare it to the AL fire incident because it felt the same as that for me.

I hate that scene with a passion but being in a threesome with them is still my main because I'm choosing to focus on what came before and on the understanding of who these two are and what they were going through that drew them to the MC, whilst also choosing to ignore most of what happened in that terrible scene.

 

[Darkmetal]

the biggest single problem is the way Maya and Josy kiss each other if the MC goes the friendship route. If Maya and Josy were holding hands with sad faces as the MC left, I think it would be much easier to accept

that scene was the biggest problem,

That scene should only be a big problem if you still have feelings for one or other or both of them. If one doesn't, who cares what they do and when. If you still harbor feelings for them, however, "being friends" is actually the worst option. Cutting ties or "going for more" and trying to get them both or try to break them up are better options in that case, otherwise you'll be in a Ross (from Friends) situation and just be stuck doing shitty errands/favors for them while:

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Ross has to because he has a kid with one of them, MC has only known Maya for two weeks.

As a Bella fan from day 1, personally I didn't care that much for either of them at any point (just played it out for the Gallery unlock) so I'm OK being on the friends route - figure I also owe Maya a bit for giving MC a roof while he was homeless at least.

When you get to the denouement with Maya and Josy did anyone want a third option to say, "Fuck you and Fuck you, I'm out"? I'm just curious in that situation if there was any desire from players to end those relationships completely and move on.
Why not cut your losses completely and focus on another woman or women?

I made this more in jest M&J 3rd Option but I figure it's probably what you wish DPC had provided

 

[StarWulf]

You sir, like to live dangerously.

Am I the silk master of swag? Damn Right I am.

 

[StarWulf]

No third choice due to them being involved in the story either way, but he could have handled that scene a little bit better after 0.4 it was probably the most complained part of the update a lot of people thought it made no sense and that all the issues between them were then swept under the carpet if there is one scene that could have played out better it was that one.

The Third Choice should have been orgy, right then and there.

 

[MrFriendly]

The Third Choice should have been orgy, right then and there.

One night of passion and then you go your separate ways. They together and you alone with their panties for souvenirs?

 

[Carnagie]

I was a Maya fan myself, but I did lose interest once Josie came into the picture and they ended up in a relationship without MC within an update.

RN I'm a Sage fan, but she seems devoted enough to Chad that unless he turns out to be gay the MC will end up alone again. Really the only route that looks solid is Bella, sadly.

 

[Raziel_8]

One night of passion and then you go your separate ways. They together and you alone with their panties for souvenirs?

Hide the panties in Tybalts room, where he already has Jills...and then make a nice tape for publication

 

[MrFriendly]

Hide the panties in Tybalts room, where he already has Jills...and then make a nice tape for publication

I like the shape of your noodle, my friend! Tybalt is my main nemesis, he just doesn't realize it yet since I'm staying in Sage's room for now.

 

[ename144]

That scene should only be a big problem if you still have feelings for one or other or both of them. If one doesn't, who cares what they do and when. If you still harbor feelings for them, however, "being friends" is actually the worst option. Cutting ties or "going for more" and trying to get them both or try to break them up are better options in that case, otherwise you'll be in a Ross (from Friends) situation and just be stuck doing shitty errands/favors for them while:

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Ross has to because he has a kid with one of them, MC has only known Maya for two weeks.

This is a game, not a movie. What happens in a scene where the MC does NOT have feelings for them can bleed over into what happens in a scene where the MC does still have feelings for them.

If we, as the player, see them shrug off the MC walking away, it rather undercuts his importance when we instead see the MC stick with them.

If it turns out this is intentional and MCs pursing 'something more' with them are automatically going to get kicked to the curb at some point down the road then fair enough (though batten down the hatches when that happens!). But at the moment it just looks like poor writing and staging.

 

[MrFriendly]

I was a Maya fan myself, but I did lose interest once Josie came into the picture and they ended up in a relationship without MC within an update.

RN I'm a Sage fan, but she seems devoted enough to Chad that unless he turns out to be gay the MC will end up alone again. Really the only route that looks solid is Bella, sadly.

I feel you on that one. I am not really optimistic about my chances with Sage. She is too on Chad's hook to commit to the MC, which means the MC is too on her hook, and that is pushing me toward either Bella or Jill. I don't like being a hanger on to anyone's relationship whether that is M&J or Chad and Sage.

At this rate I may end up with Quinn because everyone else fucked me over. As this is a DPC game I have a feeling something horribly wrong and catastrophic will happen to force my hand.

 

[Zirael Q]

Eh, I feel like both of them are too much drama and not really worth dealing with it. Maya is trying to hide Josy from her family and will most likely use you to do that. Josy is the one who lied the most (IIRC) and didn't seem that broken up about it. Maya came to you in tears in public to try and talk.

The whole shift in emotion and tone from that scene in the gender studies room to the party was too much of a change. You go from angry and unwilling to talk to totally cool with everything and willing to either enter a sharing relationship or walk away with friendship while they play tonsil hockey with each other. That kiss and the way the MC is so obviously ancillary to them is why I was wondering if people thought there should have been a third choice.

I agree but again, Josy deserves another chance imo. Of course, it shouldn't include Maya in any part. Also, Maya asking for help to hide Josy from her father? Not happening. Asking help for her Scavenger Hunt? Not happening. She tries to cheat her way through her scavenger hunt task? Not happening, a bird will tell about it to Quinn lol. I would prefer a third option as well to tell them to fuck off, but unfortunately we didn't get that. So I'll do what I can to avoid both as best as I can. For me, Maya is only Derek's sister status right now. Nothing more. And it will stay that way. Josy can stay as a friend, nothing more. MC literally stepped into the campus, no need to have a romantic interest with anyone from day 1, with the first female she interacted with. Of course unless if it's someone like Jill or Sage. Both are almost the full package, so they are worth the romantic interest imo.

 

[Zirael Q]

At this rate I may end up with Quinn because everyone else fucked me over. As this is a DPC game I have a feeling something horribly wrong and catastrophic will happen to force my hand.

Everyone will see the light evetually Sage and Quinn competing for MC's baseball bat would be nice as well, hehe. Can see Sage winning that for most people if that should become an option, but not for me and a certain name88 - King of Hearts xD

 

[StarWulf]

One night of passion and then you go your separate ways. They together and you alone with their panties for souvenirs?

Bras too. Can never have enough bras. And record it so the girls succeed in their scavanger hunt.

Hide the panties in Tybalts room, where he already has Jills...and then make a nice tape for publication

I like the shape of your noodle, my friend! Tybalt is my main nemesis, he just doesn't realize it yet since I'm staying in Sage's room for now.

Jill will then kill his watermelon with her thighs with him tied up in a chair, showing how not to mess with her, her friends, and lovers.

 

[Raziel_8]

I like the shape of your noodle, my friend! Tybalt is my main nemesis, he just doesn't realize it yet since I'm staying in Sage's room for now.

Yes i really wanna see Bella & Jills face when they see a pic/tape with Tybalt nose deep in Jills panties.

I feel you on that one. I am not really optimistic about my chances with Sage. She is too on Chad's hook to commit to the MC, which means the MC is too on her hook, and that is pushing me toward either Bella or Jill. I don't like being a hanger on to anyone's relationship whether that is M&J or Chad and Sage.

At this rate I may end up with Quinn because everyone else fucked me over. As this is a DPC game I have a feeling something horribly wrong and catastrophic will happen to force my hand.

Well mc is allready bringing Sage to think about break up...i think we need to wait until they know Chad's little secret, of course Chad running into them while banging would also help.
Though if u really make Sage ur girlfriend u shoudn't cheat on her...that we learnd

Hm I think Jill is a relative safe option as i doubt she will fuck u over, probably some family/watermelon related problems down the road.
Bella is...well that whole librarie scene and missing husband, will also some huge mess, that being said i don't think she will fuck u over.

 

[MrFriendly]

I agree but again, Josy deserves another chance imo. Of course, it shouldn't include Maya in any part. Also, Maya asking for help to hide Josy from her father? Not happening. Asking help for her Scavenger Hunt? Not happening. She tries to cheat her way through her scavenger hunt task? Not happening, a bird will tell about it to Quinn lol. I would prefer a third option as well to tell them to fuck off, but unfortunately we didn't get that. So I'll do what I can to avoid both as best as I can. For me, Maya is only Derek's sister status right now. Nothing more. And it will stay that way. Josy can stay as a friend, nothing more. MC literally stepped into the campus, no need to have a romantic interest with anyone from day 1, with the first female she interacted with. Of course unless if it's someone like Jill or Sage. Both are almost the full package, so they are worth the romantic interest imo.

Yeah, I also have that "this is a DPC game" feeling so I am leery of becoming too invested in any one character considering how AL ended. It's like M. Night Shyamalan's movies - once you see that he does a twist you are always expecting a twist. With DPC it's once he rips your heart out and shows it to you (Temple of Doom FTW) you don't trust him with your heart again. Now, I admit, it was great storytelling for an adult game and I have respect for his ability to conjure the emotions but now I am prepared for his manipulative ways

Everyone will see the light evetually Sage and Quinn competing for MC's baseball bat would be nice as well, hehe. Can see Sage winning that for most people if that should become an option, but not for me and a certain name88 - King of Hearts xD

Not a bad idea considering the alternative is the obvious torture that will be the M&J situation (eventually). Unless of course the twist comes from a completely different person... I actually am betting that Bella will be the emotional gutripper this time.