VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Tserriednich'sNen]

NVM I got the scenes I was looking for

 

[ename144]

It's even more bizarre in the CHICK path. When Josie shrugged off Maya's suggestion, I just kept thinking that it has to be building for something, but no. There's no repercussions, no reference to it, no sign of it bothering Maya, nothing. It was seriously so astonishingly weird scene as why write that reaction from Josie to begin with? Why not just state that Maya was going with Josie to begin with, but the latter also wanted the MC there?

I'd certainly prefer it if Josy had asked both to accompany her at the same time, no question.

A bigger complaint for me is that Maya waits behind for the MC rather than going with Josy and sending the MC a text to meet them outside. That looked much worse for the health of their relationship than the way Josy asked for her support.

Unfortunately, that once again runs aground on the needs of the game: Maya has to accompany the MC to provide dialog then leave during the emotional cue so that the MC must choose to follow on or the other of the LIs. If Maya had been present during the conversation, her departure would have provoked a lot more concern and thus we would need to explain why Josy didn't follow.

 

[mindern]

I think the problem with it being forced is the main issue with the whole story line. I did a whole playthrough actively avoiding Maya and Josy and picking choices that make you lose points with them but they still somehow fall in love with the MC and have their Whole drama regardless of what you do.

This is the episode all over though. Not to the same degree but you can be full DIK and avoid Bella, have her actively dislike you because of various behaviours but one talk with Cathy and she's asking you to call her Bella and letting you borrow her car/sleep on her couch. You can piss Sage off, avoid her and then suddenly you're friends. You can reject Maya/Josy but they're still in love with you.

This episode was a filter to get everyone on a similar track. DPC was cleaning house and making it easier to write. Which I understand but it's just creating inconsistencies.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I didn't play the polyroute, ...

Did you consider that
- J&M relationship was a secret only Derek knew. Now mc knows, too, but it is still a secret. It's difficult to show a secret relationship in the open.
- Josy's and Maya's sexual orientation is a secret except for Derek (and Maya's dad) and now mc. Maya herself was unsure because she was only with one girl (Josy) before she met mc. Now with mc in their relationship it is clear that both are rather bisexual than lesbian. We don't know if Josy and Maya are attracted by other girls besides each other. Their romantic and sexual relationship evolved out of (probably years of) friendship. Since they keep their lesbian side secret, they cannot engage in lesbian actions in public unless it is in a socially acceptable context like the dildo game in e.4.
- Their relationship was at zero point when Josy arrived at B&R and actually looked rather for mc than Maya, while mc and Maya that evening had just completed the first sexual tasks for scavenger hunt together. This was Hell Week Wednesday night (end of ep.3). Friday night (ep.4) they had the great decision if to stay just friends or be more than friends. Josy's dad visited B&R on Saturday night, only 3 days after Josy arrived.
- Supporting Josy in a potential struggle with her dad is difficult for Maya if their relationship is secret. MC is more neutral and in case that Josy's dad would try to take her back home, mc could intervene and fight for Josy if necessary. He is the better choice based on circumstances.

Episode 5 has several (small) events for the J&M-path.

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[Cndyrvr4lf]

I think the problem with it being forced is the main issue with the whole story line. I did a whole playthrough actively avoiding Maya and Josy and picking choices that make you lose points with them but they still somehow fall in love with the MC and have their Whole drama regardless of what you do.

This is the episode all over though. Not to the same degree but you can be full DIK and avoid Bella, have her actively dislike you because of various behaviours but one talk with Cathy and she's asking you to call her Bella and letting you borrow her car/sleep on her couch. You can piss Sage off, avoid her and then suddenly you're friends. You can reject Maya/Josy but they're still in love with you.

This episode was a filter to get everyone on a similar track. DPC was cleaning house and making it easier to write. Which I understand but it's just creating inconsistencies.

Yeah see and I have been complaining abut this stuff since the beginning. I don't think other than the 50%/100% scenes it has any checks in the game that really use the RP system. We just float through everything as if no one cares if we like each other at all.

 

[Ilhares]

Man, life has been too chaotic for me to get back in here with any regularity, thanks to the health and all - and now we've got whackjobs trying to burn the place down and discredit legitimate protests. (#GeorgeFloyd, baby)

Even having been recorded in the 70's as part of the Grease movie soundtrack, I imagined even the young crowd in the US has heard it several times. Mainly due to the popularity of Sir Elton John.

I won't say it wasn't recorded for that, but I was a big fan of the film and recall zero songs from Sir EJ appearing in it. Was this something that you'd only find on the LP release?

Maybe she will hit him herself if she finds his melon with her panties and picture attached to it.

Coriolan was nice enough to model this scene some time ago, so all thanks to him for fulfilling a fan wish.

Spoiler: Jill's fed up

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Got myself immersed again when this episode came around so I made a quiz: I present to you

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! It's got all the characters in the Bios app (so sorry to Karen Rebecca Johnson).

I love both Sporcle and this game, so wanted to make an homage.

(btw it's fucking impossible for me to name all 59 people, I keep blanking on someone different every time, it's insane lol)

I don't know if it was brought up already (so many pages in this thread) - You missed at least two that I'm immediately aware of. Karen Rebecca Johnson seems to be missing, as is Sandy from the Pink Rose.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

This is the episode all over though. Not to the same degree but you can be full DIK and avoid Bella, have her actively dislike you because of various behaviours but one talk with Cathy and she's asking you to call her Bella and letting you borrow her car/sleep on her couch. You can piss Sage off, avoid her and then suddenly you're friends. You can reject Maya/Josy but they're still in love with you.

This episode was a filter to get everyone on a similar track. DPC was cleaning house and making it easier to write. Which I understand but it's just creating inconsistencies.

Whilst I can totally understand DPC wanting to have branches and to make choices have consequences by locking out certain LIs early on, at the end of the day they're just one man and for a game of this scale, having so many branches and variations to the story was probably a mistake. It's like with A Wife and Mother; it's a visually good game with a fairly good story, but suffers from having to deal with too many branches and side characters.

So, yeah, I agree that this episode did make it seem they were getting the story back on to a single track to make it easier going forward, but I guess they were also betting on there not being too many people who have turned down Bella because, I mean, just look at her...

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[Rinbael]

Yeah see and I have been complaining abut this stuff since the beginning. I don't think other than the 50%/100% scenes it has any checks in the game that really use the RP system. We just float through everything as if no one cares if we like each other at all.

Yeah I agree with you it just seems like the RP system was put in because it is a VN and halfway into development the dev just forgot it exists in order to have dramatic moments in his game.

 

[W.Bear88]

still problem error.....How get?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 912, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\python.py", line 2004, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec bytecode in globals, locals
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\ui.py", line 295, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2699, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3510, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\transition.py", line 47, in event
    return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st)  # E1101
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 707, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 244, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 244, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 244, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 946, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 881, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 320, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\loadsave.py", line 761, in load
    log.unfreeze(roots, label="_after_load")
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1959, in unfreeze
    self.rollback(0, force=True, label=label, greedy=greedy, on_load=True)
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1791, in rollback
    self.load_failed()
  File "C:\Users\SisCo\Desktop\A Games\BeingADIK\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc-lin\BeingADIK-0.5.0-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1709, in load_failed
    raise Exception("Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?")
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.2.320
Being a DIK 0.5.0
Tue Jun 02 19:38:18 2020

 

[g6107419]

Is there a save with all scenes unlocked?

 

[jackofshadows]

This is the episode all over though. Not to the same degree but you can be full DIK and avoid Bella, have her actively dislike you because of various behaviours but one talk with Cathy and she's asking you to call her Bella and letting you borrow her car/sleep on her couch. You can piss Sage off, avoid her and then suddenly you're friends. You can reject Maya/Josy but they're still in love with you.

This episode was a filter to get everyone on a similar track. DPC was cleaning house and making it easier to write. Which I understand but it's just creating inconsistencies.

Yes and this is quite a shame. Unfortunately, it's very reasonable from DPC's perspective. And so called new season is a good excuse for reduction to pretty much one baseline. Too much work for a proper branching while only dedicated enough players will check different outcomes and appriciate it. He's aiming for a mass appeal, not to some fans (have no clue what his highest patrons wants and value though).

Not to mention his focus on animation (extremely time-consuming) and clear desire to throw as much drama as possible which is require certain combination of circumstances and badly fits with player's possibility to avoid some potential rough edges in the first place was it necessary to fuck Sage exactly on Tybalt's bed on top of all?

 

[meatloaf1123]

Whilst I can totally understand DPC wanting to have branches and to make choices have consequences by locking out certain LIs early on, at the end of the day they're just one man and for a game of this scale, having so many branches and variations to the story was probably a mistake. It's like with A Wife and Mother; it's a visually good game with a fairly good story, but suffers from having to deal with too many branches and side characters.

So, yeah, I agree that this episode did make it seem they were getting the story back on to a single track to make it easier going forward, but I guess they were also betting on there not being too many people who have turned down Bella because, I mean, just look at her...

imo what we've got here is the limit of "the best of both worlds": a good/competent storyline with branching/complexities from choices AND good animations/rendering (for a one man team anyway)

so unless DPC is wiling to offload some of these workload to others, OR he's ok with releasing smaller episodes with lesser renders/shorter stories, we can't really expect anything more than this without bloating up the dev time even more

 

[acewinz]

I won't say it wasn't recorded for that, but I was a big fan of the film and recall zero songs from Sir EJ appearing in it. Was this something that you'd only find on the LP release?

You are correct Sir, I had my trivia mixed up lol. The weird thought process I had going was the hand jive dance EJ was trying to teach Kiki Dee in the music vid was from the 50's, but saw a resurgence with Grease. EJ wasn't involved with that sound track directly, but several members of Toto were, who did work with him. I also thought I made that comment back in WTHI thread.

 

[FlipFish]

Still not sure how to feel about Maya and Josy. The funny thing is I like Maya on her own, but anything that has to do with whole secret lesbian relationship just drags her down for me. Never really cared for Josy so I don't have much of an opinion on her.

 

[mindern]

Yeah see and I have been complaining abut this stuff since the beginning. I don't think other than the 50%/100% scenes it has any checks in the game that really use the RP system. We just float through everything as if no one cares if we like each other at all.

You used to get variations on stuff (unless that is the 50% 100% stuff?). I actually really miss the DIK/CHICK variations. Episode 1-3 used to change what you say based on your affinity. Same choice but your affinity changed the context and the response.

Happened all the time, a CHICK could compliment girls sincerely and get positive reputation points. A DIK would say something crude and lose them. Same choice in-game but the RP system changed the outcome... AFAIK this was totally abandoned this episode. Even full DIK characters were channelling their inner WMV protagonist and saying exactly the right honeyed words to get every woman to fall for you like you're Casanova with a PhD in Cognitive behavioural therapy.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

You used to get variations on stuff (unless that is the 50% 100% stuff?). I actually really miss the DIK/CHICK variations. Episode 1-3 used to change what you say based on your affinity. Same choice but your affinity changed the context and the response.

Happened all the time, a CHICK could compliment girls sincerely and get positive reputation points. A DIK would say something crude and lose them. Same choice in-game but the RP system changed the outcome... AFAIK this was totally abandoned this episode. Even full DIK characters were channelling their inner WMV protagonist and saying exactly the right honeyed words to get every woman to fall for you like you're Casanova with a PhD in Cognitive behavioural therapy.

Yep another good example was staying with Sage at the end of Ep3. If you were a Chick and you went in Quinn's room or tuck the blanket over Heather it was a negative. If you were a DIK it turned both into a positive.

 

[ename144]

You used to get variations on stuff (unless that is the 50% 100% stuff?). I actually really miss the DIK/CHICK variations. Episode 1-3 used to change what you say based on your affinity. Same choice but your affinity changed the context and the response.

Happened all the time, a CHICK could compliment girls sincerely and get positive reputation points. A DIK would say something crude and lose them. Same choice in-game but the RP system changed the outcome... AFAIK this was totally abandoned this episode. Even full DIK characters were channelling their inner WMV protagonist and saying exactly the right honeyed words to get every woman to fall for you like you're Casanova with a PhD in Cognitive behavioural therapy.

Not quite. You can lose some points with Bella if the MC tries to complement her as a DIK.

Also, there's the bit where the MC will assure Cathy she has nothing to worry about the clucked photo because it doesn't show the good stuff, leading to my personal favorite Jill render in the episode:

Spoiler: Smooth

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But yeah, for the most part the episode was rather samey.

 

[Bracco]

I like this story of the game, I look forward to season 6, I hope this game has more seasons

 

[meatloaf1123]

Not quite. You can lose some points with Bella if the MC tries to complement her as a DIK.

Also, there's the bit where the MC will assure Cathy she has nothing to worry about the clucked photo because it doesn't show the good stuff, leading to my personal favorite Jill render in the episode:

Mine was the moment Jill and Bella looked at each other in bewilderment after MC was able to calm Cathy down

 

[italianstallionxxx]

so im replaying the game and damn man those josy and maya renders are something else, rethinking my no thot stances. curse you dr pinkcake!