VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ename144]

I did clarify it. "The DIK's would have heard the glass."
You said Maya was walking so the houses are all spread out, correct? Yet you can go back and look at the pictures and see she is standing in front of the HOT's house for the conversation. She is pointing at the house's while standing there.
Get all mad, whatever, doesn't change the fact that you can see where she is by the scene.
Never even heard of the movie, sorry didn't get the reference. The only one I know is "When in Rome, do as the Romans"
LOL the only one I edited was the science one, you can see in the bottom right if I did, nice try

To be fair to DPC, Maya's tour does not specify just how close the various houses are to each other. Between a desire to minimize renders and to keep up the pace of the story, I think a certain amount of leeway is reasonable. Just because Maya can point out the DIK house from near the HOTs doesn't automatically mean all the frat houses are within earshot.

Still, there's no question the story will play fast and loose with details when it wants to. It's like how the MC will lead Maya and Josy out of the front door of the mansion before Derek sets off the sprinklers... yet no one ever comments on the three of them waltzing out in plain sight of all the partygoers we know were in the front hall the whole the time. Or, for that matter, how Derek got the eggs to the far side of the wall in the first place.

So yeah, even if we accept the DIKs were far enough from their mansion to miss all the shattering glass, it's difficult to believe the jocks could trash the place that thoroughly without attracting SOME attention. It's even harder to see why Dawe would be so hesitant to fight the DIKs, but utterly unconcerned by the massive property damage he inflicted.

If anyone had come by, what exactly was his story going to be? Kamikaze paint cans kidnapped the jocks, forced them into the DIK house, then exploded en masse?

EDIT: Actually... I would pay to see Anthony deliver that story to the B&R council. How do we make this happen?

 

[Yods]

Guys, is the game finish?
Or there will be another season coming?

 

[IkarusWestwood]

So yeah, even if we accept the DIKs were far enough from their mansion to miss all the shattering glass, it's difficult to believe the jocks could trash the place that thoroughly without attracting SOME attention. It's even harder to see why Dawe would be so hesitant to fight the DIKs, but utterly unconcerned by the massive property damage he inflicted.

If the Jocks or the DIKs talk about the war between them for the teachers, it's possible that the two fraternities are closed, the DIKs will not talk about it because the attack on the Jocks will increase the snowball that the situation with Cathy is, and the Jocks are not going to talk about the attack on their house because they already have a target marked because of the attack that Chad made to MC.

 

[IkarusWestwood]

Guys, is the game finish?

Not even close

 

[Mormont]

I am sorry I don't mean to irritate or piss people off (Stark9999999). I just have a very logical orientated mind and little things like that drive me CRAZY! I realize that it's a story but make it work, don't go all magical soundless breaking glass, or pictures taken from impossible angles, or just straight up stupid ways/things that happen. That's just bad writing and a lack of creativity. It's a weakness that can be corrected not just "hand wave" away.

Used to be a really good poster on here way back before 0.3 was a fan of DPC but he was seeing a lot of plotholes always had a keen eye for those so you ain't alone. But needless to say, if you are going to stick through this you are just going to have to grin and bear it hopefully it doesn't become anything too far fetched.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

To be fair to DPC, Maya's tour does not specify just how close the various houses are to each other. Between a desire to minimize renders and to keep up the pace of the story, I think a certain amount of leeway is reasonable. Just because Maya can point out the DIK house from near the HOTs doesn't automatically mean all the frat houses are within earshot.

Still, there's no question the story will play fast and loose with details when it wants to. It's like how the MC will lead Maya and Josy out of the front door of the mansion before Derek sets off the sprinklers... yet no one ever comments on the three of them waltzing out in plain sight of all the partygoers we know were in the front hall the whole the time. Or, for that matter, how Derek got the eggs to the far side of the wall in the first place.

So yeah, even if we accept the DIKs were far enough from their mansion to miss all the shattering glass, it's difficult to believe the jocks could trash the place that thoroughly without attracting SOME attention. It's even harder to see why Dawe would be so hesitant to fight the DIKs, but utterly unconcerned by the massive property damage he inflicted.

If anyone had come by, what exactly was his story going to be? Kamikaze paint cans kidnapped the jocks, forced them into the DIK house, then exploded en masse?

EDIT: Actually... I would pay to see Anthony deliver that story to the B&R council. How do we make this happen?

See and from the tour scene, when it shows the HOT's laying out, look at the house behind the HOT's. It's the same house as the AAA's. Granted it could be just a lack of rendering resources but it's the same house. You can tell the renders were done at different times or in different batches cause the sun/shadows don't line up.

I can see the run out the mansion being plausible because they come down the stairs and it's 10' to out the door. Granted I agree with the eggs. It's an open top container and Derek wasn't carrying it when you see him going to set off the sprinkler. Another stupid inconsistency within the game.

I still think that we keep blaming the AAA's for everything and it might not be them. Granted that's getting deep down the rabbit hole but it just seems way to obvious. If I was going to vandalize a house I sure as hell wouldn't put my fraternities letters all over the house like a signature. Hmmm I wonder who did this?

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Used to be a really good poster on here way back before 0.3 was a fan of DPC but he was seeing a lot of plotholes always had a keen eye for those so you ain't alone. But needless to say, if you are going to stick through this you are just going to have to grin and bear it hopefully it doesn't become anything too far fetched.

I'll probably just end up being driven crazy and quit following the game. I only follow like a handful of games on here. I delete more than I keep just because I can only stand so much stupidity before I just mentally check out.

 

[J1215]

Guys, is the game finish?
Or there will be another season coming?

There was a 1st season in which there were 4 episodes.
Episode 5 is only the beginning of season 2 (maybe there will be 3-4 episodes in season 2).
As far as I know, at least another 3rd season is planned (again several episodes).
Perhaps there will be more seasons.

 

[DaweFan69]

What is Dawe

Baby dont hurt me

Don't hurt me

No whore

 

[Mormont]

I'll probably just end up being driven crazy and quit following the game. I only follow like a handful of games on here. I delete more than I keep just because I can only stand so much stupidity before I just mentally check out.

Yeah it's easier said than done tbh I'm quite invested in the story despite all the plotholes like I said it would have to take something extremely stupid to happen or a repeat of AL to happen for me to reconsider.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Yeah it's easier said than done tbh I'm quite invested in the story despite all the plotholes like I said it would have to take something extremely stupid to happen or a repeat of AL to happen for me to reconsider.

Not for me. I have a few games that I have on watch on here just so I can follow along and laugh at the stupidity. I'm just amazed at all the positive reviews and 10/10 games on this site that are straight garbage. Obviously most people's standards and mine are a touch different.

 

[Hakhak]

Not for me. I have a few games that I have on watch on here just so I can follow along and laugh at the stupidity. I'm just amazed at all the positive reviews and 10/10 games on this site that are straight garbage. Obviously most people's standards and mine are a touch different.

It is really painful to try to endure the garbage this people happily guzzle.

 

[TundraLupus]

Not for me. I have a few games that I have on watch on here just so I can follow along and laugh at the stupidity. I'm just amazed at all the positive reviews and 10/10 games on this site that are straight garbage. Obviously most people's standards and mine are a touch different.

It is really painful to try to endure the garbage this people happily guzzle.

My only coment as someone who tried to be a dev, do better then, i agree that plot holes can be anoying, hell i get pissed at them to, but there is a right way to go through criticism, you pointed out the plot hole, and why it anoyis you, maybe the dev one day will fix it, maybe not, if it isn't for you, move the fuck on, also entertainment isn't about being logical, i do preffer when it is, but it is about entertaining, and as i said, if it doesn't work for you, move on.

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

I'm so used to games like Babysitter that have "checkpoints" where if you're score with a LI isn't high enough, it triggers a bad end that ends the game abruptly.

After reading the new strategy guide, it's kinda jarring to see how much of an asshole you can be to Bella/Jill on their paths and not trigger an scene where they kick you out of the house.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

My only coment as someone who tried to be a dev, do better then, i agree that plot holes can be anoying, hell i get pissed at them to, but there is a right way to go through criticism, you pointed out the plot hole, and why it anoyis you, maybe the dev one day will fix it, maybe not, if it isn't for you, move the fuck on, also entertainment isn't about being logical, i do preffer when it is, but it is about entertaining, and as i said, if it doesn't work for you, move on.

Don't have the talent. I don't know how to program or work DAZ. However, just cause I can't paint doesn't mean I can't look at a painting and tell if it's good or not. Dev's from what I can tell, mostly don't fix things. They have enough people who see good renders and H scenes and boom gold mine. What does story consistency matter?

 

[saberrider]

After finishing episode 5 I have to say that I really like some side characters and I hope nothing bad happens to them. So far I find Jacob, Nick, Big A and Riona really cool. As for the LI, I hope Sage path will be worth it in the end (so far she's probably the most honest person the MC meets) and although I find Maya easy to like I have a feeling that she'll screw up big time.

 

[Teflonmike]

Checking Lily's rooster ? How do I go about that ?

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

It's nice to see that Quinn is every bit as incompetent as always in this episode.

Quinn has so far been able to run her businesses without Sage knowing about them because she has her complete trust. So naturally, Quinn thinks that the best thing to do now is to give Sage reason to doubt her by breaking a deal with the DIKs in order to create an opportunity for herself to make money by selling drugs to the preps.

This plan of Quinn's has the added effect of angering her partner in crime Tommy, who had trusted her to bring the HOTs to his party as was promised. The payoff for Quinn is... well... not much really. Turns out that the preps weren't interested in buying what she was selling. They wanted cocaine, while she's trying to sell cannabis. So this seems like a bit of an oversight on her part, considering the well known stereotype is that rich folk like coke.

Fortunately, she has her other business to fall back on. Her takeout service is now a delivery service, but it doesn't really pan out for her either. Camilla responds to your proposition by saying that Quinn would be angry if she gave something away for free, right before she gives it away for free. A short while later, we see Mona run out of a room shouting that she can't go through with something. What that something is, isn't spelled out, but it ain't hard to figure out. Camilla runs after Mona in a panic, while Burke exits seconds later while wearing those pinstripe pants you might remember spotting through that bathroom glory hole back in chapter one if you looked in there immediately after Quinn and Riona walked out.

So the day ends with Sage mad at Quinn, Tommy mad at Quinn, and everyone involved with Quinn worried that Mona might spill the beans. Unfazed by it all, Quinn takes everything in stride and comes up with a master plan to set everything right. Just kidding, she ends the day by getting high on her own supply.

I had previously complained about how much I hated the fact that the game didn't allow us to retaliate against Quinn in any way shape or form, despite the game giving us two perfect opportunities to effortlessly ruin her plans. But now, I'm starting to think that just sitting back and watching her ruin herself might be more entertaining. I'm not sure how much deeper she can dig this hole before everything collapses in on her, but at this rate she shouldn't last past the end of the season.

 

[Real Kreten]

Don't have the talent. I don't know how to program or work DAZ. However, just cause I can't paint doesn't mean I can't look at a painting and tell if it's good or not. Dev's from what I can tell, mostly don't fix things. They have enough people who see good renders and H scenes and boom gold mine. What does story consistency matter?

I don't think the story has plot holes. Rather, it is a limited possibility of narrating for given medium, indie VN. The size of the campus, the distance of the individual buildings, DPC did not deal with it, because it is not so important. Can you imagine where we would be in the story if DPC showed every move in detail?
I recommend to you to add to your logical evaluation the possibilities of the developer to tell a story of “what to tell” and at “what price / time”.

 

[TundraLupus]

Don't have the talent. I don't know how to program or work DAZ. However, just cause I can't paint doesn't mean I can't look at a painting and tell if it's good or not. Dev's from what I can tell, mostly don't fix things. They have enough people who see good renders and H scenes and boom gold mine. What does story consistency matter?

Then move on and let those that enjoy the game enjoy it. i wouldn't give this game a 10/10, for inconsistencies and other reasons it would be a 5/10 for me, and going lower.