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It's the sympathy card that was pulled. Soon as she knew about the bullying, Bella turned. Which is also surprising lol. I'm not picking on her, just thought she was tougher than that. It's not like he's walking around like Fabio with a footlong all-day singing poetry to win them over, what's so magical about this kid. He acts like a child yet somehow can impress a Goddess of today's standards. Weird fantasy or what?
Bella is sympathetic with the MC about being bullied, but she'll still distrust him unless you can bring her around in Episode 3. Admittedly, it's actually hard to fail, but it can happen, in which case she will tell Jill the MC isn't a good person (though still better than Tybalt). It changes Jill's date a bit, and it seemed to close off a relationship with Jill if the MC admits Bella was probably right about him.

Unfortunately, this seems to have been effectively obviated by Episode 5. Even if Bella didn't come around on the MC, she will allow him to comfort Cathy, invite him to call her Bella, and spend the night. :(

She's defensive. Reserved yes, because she might not have the right experience in relationships. She doesn't seem to want any part of the "in crowd" and even protects those that are jerks, like Tybalt. She's just a do-gooder, so she needs to be played as one. There's nothing wrong with a little fun, but too early too fast for Jill. She got very excited when she found out he didn't know about her past. So that already loosens her up to the possibility of dating. Which is why the shower scene should have come later. Until she knew who this boy was, it shouldn't have happened.
Which shower scene? The MC fondling Jill, or him kissing her after she peeks? Or both?

I really liked the kiss, and Jill's reaction seems within reason (assuming she does generally trust the MC). I agree the fondling bit in the shower is poorly handled, though. If the MC touched her breast and then immediately let go I could see her choosing to let it slide, but the game clearly establishes it goes on longer than that. It's probably just DPC trying to throw the Jill fans a bone (this is a porn game after all), but it does feel very artificial. That's why I skipped it on my Jill-centric run.
 
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Sheesh, I finally start a new job than and the forum explodes. How am I supposed to keep up now?


Bella is sympathetic with the MC about being bullied, but she'll still distrust him unless you can bring her around in Episode 3. Admittedly, it's actually hard to fail, but it can happen, in which case she will tell Jill the MC isn't a good person (though still better than Tybalt). It changes Jill's date a bit, and it seemed to close off a relationship with Jill if the MC admits Bella was probably right about him.

Unfortunately, this seems to have been effectively obviated by Episode 5. Even if Bella didn't come around on the MC, she will allow him to comfort Cathy, invite him to call her Bella, and spend the night. :(


Which shower scene? The MC fondling Jill, or him kissing her after she peeks? Or both?

I really liked the kiss, and Jill's reaction seems within reason (assuming she does generally trust the MC). I agree the fondling bit in the shower is poorly handled, though. If the MC touched her breast and then immediately let go I could see her choosing to let it slide, but the game clearly establishes it goes on longer than that. It's probably just DPC trying to throw the Jill fans a bone (this is a porn game after all), but it does feel very artificial. That's why I skipped it on my Jill-centric run.
I wouldn't call it fondling... touching without permission more like it lol. She was treated in that shower scene as another achievement. Cringe. But I love Jill, and I just skip that part and pretend she's falling in love, even though she was molested. try that IRL and see what people call it, innocent fondling or --prison time-- And I believe, more importantly, that the scene should happen "later" not that early. That's waaaay too early.
 
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I wouldn't call it fondling... touching without permission more like it lol. She was treated in that shower scene as another achievement. Cringe. But I love Jill, and I just skip that part and pretend she's falling in love, even though she was molested. try that IRL and see what people call it, innocent fondling or --prison time-- And I believe, more importantly, that the scene should happen "later" not that early. That's waaaay to early.
Only cause it's a porn game does it happen at all. I don't know to many girls who will shower with someone on a first date without being/planning on being sexual.
 
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My favorite holiday month
What holiday? *Checks calendar* I only see my son's birthday *Sigh*
And I've only seen him shower twice.
It's more than twice. I can remember at least 4, at home before your date, in HOTs shower with Melanie and Sarah, after tennis with Jill, in bath tub with Jade (if we're talking about bathing and not just shower).
Oh, then I might just check it out. A good story definitely makes it more interesting.
Like others said, be forewarned, you willfeel like being hit by a truck when you are about to reach the end.
I've stopped a bully before for a guy at my school, and he was embarrassed and didn't want to talk to me. So idk, but I wouldn't let my standards go for that. It's not enough cause. There are always two sides to a story.
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In October when the update comes out (maybe). American Holiday "Halloween"
Yes the day the update comes out should be declared "BaDIK update release day" when everyone takes their unofficial holiday. We don't really officially celebrate Halloween, so no surprise there.
 

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Only cause it's a porn game does it happen at all. I don't know to many girls who will shower with someone on a first date without being/planning on being sexual.
Very true. Well... there are co-ed showers in schools. Sorry, "Communal" showers.
 

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Very true. Well... there are co-ed showers in schools. Sorry, "Communal" showers.
See and I feel old all over again. Communal showers? Uh wow talk about a potentially bad idea. I can understand it as far as the shower scene with Jill but BaDK is not the real world.
 
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See and I feel old all over again. Communal showers? Uh wow talk about a potentially bad idea. I can understand it as far as the shower scene with Jill but BaDK is not the real world.
I don't know, I've heard rumors lol. This game is pretty spot on with the whole college scene. You got the jocks who are cool with their stereotypes, the goths, the emo--whatever you wanna call it... they just blend into anyone that wears all black... the only thing I would say is the clothing is way off in most cases when it comes to the girls; like that girl Riona, she'd be thrown out immediately. Short skirts are a thing, but if your panties are showing, you get a warning if someone actually reports it. At parties, yeah, it's there. Then you got the nerds, and they definitely get harrassed. Lots of hazing. Feminists are like terrorists. It's pretty spot on with the game.
 

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There are showers in schools? In my world, maybe only college and above and definitely not co-ed.
Yup, there are showers. And with these trans-LGBTQ-stuff, they can enter any bathroom except the ones designated for just girls/boys. Those are single anyways. the game doesn't show it, not that I noticed. but irl it's a thing.
 

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See and I feel old all over again. Communal showers? Uh wow talk about a potentially bad idea. I can understand it as far as the shower scene with Jill but BaDK is not the real world.
Eh, they had co-ed showers in the dorms way back when I was in college, too. But that just meant people would wear something before leaving the shower itself. Unlike the MC, we were smart enough to keep the towel within arm's reach of the curtain.

As I said, I can kind of see Jill wanting to shower simultaneously if she thinks the MC is a decent sort of guy. It saves time for the rest of their date, and if the MC tries to take advantage of the opportunity then she'll know not to trust him.

It's just that if we do make the MC fondle her (though Manuka is right, grope is probably a better term), Jill reacts like a concussed duck instead of, well, Jill.
 

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Eh, they had co-ed showers in the dorms way back when I was in college, too. But that just meant people would wear something before leaving the shower itself. Unlike the MC, we were smart enough to keep the towel within arm's reach of the curtain.

As I said, I can kind of see Jill wanting to shower simultaneously if she thinks the MC is a decent sort of guy. It saves time for the rest of their date, and if the MC tries to take advantage of the opportunity then she'll know not to trust him.

It's just that if we do make the MC fondle her (though Manuka is right, grope is probably a better term), Jill reacts like a concussed duck instead of, well, Jill.
Pretty much. She has no problem taking on bullies, standing up to Tybalt, but when it comes to groping, she just had to let go... I hate DPA for corrupting her.
 
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