felicemastronzo

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I certainly hope we can help Quinn for Quinn's sake not for hots or Sage.
it seems complicated to me

MC and Quinn don't have such a relationship that Quinn can ask him for help
Quinn could "blackmail" MC to help him (if the scandal breaks out others would pay for it)
 

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Maybe in light fiction, but in real life most drug dealers at the level Quinn would be dealing with are non-violent. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the whole "violent drug criminal" thing is mostly just racist nonsense, at the lower levels. Particularly for anyone who is dealing to a college student.
the image shown is not particularly serene

and then it is Quinn who is worried about the money she cannot collect
 

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the situation is that. Josy cheated on Maya in a difficult time, but as soon as she got the chance, she runs to her.
Maya has had a good time with MC and has also made some serious thoughtson him, then she finds Josy and ends everything

these are two common situations, of course less common they occur simultaneously ...

when MC freaks out does one of the two girls tell him that she feel something for him? and they both speak directly to him without the presence of the other. no, but as soon as he leaves they immediately make peace between them

once Josy is in BR is there ever the hypothesis that one of the two girls gets involved with MC?

the relationship between Josy and Maya is clearly stronger, there is nothing wrong with it, it is so
I can't see how you can pitch josy as 'running straight to Maya'.

On the second date with Josy when you ask her about getting into B&R she says "If I had I would be outside your dorm jumping for joy"

Then when it happens it's MC she phones, It's the MC she wants to stay with and she merely gets alloted a random dorm that just happens (for story purposes) to be Maya's.

Even then she scarpers out to the Toilet, texts MC and during that talk she curses the odds and asks "what are we gonna do"

I'd say that all her talk and action up to this point have her wanting to pursue the MC over Maya and it's only when MC storms out that she falls back in with Maya.

Even then she's the first to try to mend the bridge via text and later on (if you take the path of friends/meet dad/luggage) she pretty much admits to not wanting to be the odd one out and ending up with no-one and not having a choice in the matter.

Maya's opposite scene (not helping with luggage) is a lot more constrained and is just that she doesn't want to deal with the complication that is the MC. therefore I'd say the path to a Josy only path is a lot more viable based on the writing and timeframes then it is for a Maya only route
 

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it seems complicated to me

MC and Quinn don't have such a relationship that Quinn can ask him for help
Quinn could "blackmail" MC to help him (if the scandal breaks out others would pay for it)
Based on their current relationship I don't see any reason why if things go full tailspin several episodes down the line for her she might not reach out for his assistance. Quinn clearly seems to have a real thing for MC and we as MC have had several opportunities to display our interest in her and peek beneath the layers of emotional armor she wears.
 

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I can't see how you can pitch josy as 'running straight to Maya'.

On the second date with Josy when you ask her about getting into B&R she says "If I had I would be outside your dorm jumping for joy"

Then when it happens it's MC she phones, It's the MC she wants to stay with and she merely gets alloted a random dorm that just happens (for story purposes) to be Maya's.

Even then she scarpers out to the Toilet, texts MC and during that talk she curses the odds and asks "what are we gonna do"

I'd say that all her talk and action up to this point have her wanting to pursue the MC over Maya and it's only when MC storms out that she falls back in with Maya.

Even then she's the first to try to mend the bridge via text and later on (if you take the path of friends/meet dad/luggage) she pretty much admits to not wanting to be the odd one out and ending up with no-one and not having a choice in the matter.

Maya's opposite scene (not helping with luggage) is a lot more constrained and is just that she doesn't want to deal with the complication that is the MC. therefore I'd say the path to a Josy only path is a lot more viable based on the writing and timeframes then it is for a Maya only route
Josy with MC is completely honest
she always told him that she was engaged, MC is an affair, and MC knows it, in fact towards Josy he only says nonsense, he is afraid, there is little to do

the story with MC is clearly over as soon as she arrives in Maya's room, they write to each other, they talk about each other but nobody talks about their relationship. it's over. when Josy talks about "we" she refers to the three of them, not to them 2

once they are all 3 in BR there is no moment when it is credible that MC has a chance to continue his story with one of the two girls.

why otherwise after the clarification "we are all cheaters" are the two girls officially a couple while MC has to beg for a friendship that does not exist?

on the hypothesis that it might be easier to reconquer Josy of Maya I agree, but it's a different matter
 

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Based on their current relationship I don't see any reason why if things go full tailspin several episodes down the line for her she might not reach out for his assistance. Quinn clearly seems to have a real thing for MC and we as MC have had several opportunities to display our interest in her and peek beneath the layers of emotional armor she wears.
why would she ask him for help?

what would their current situation be?
that maybe they smoked a joint together and some casual sex?

they are not on good terms, MC explicitly says this to Sage, plus she also treats Maya badly ...
 
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Based on their current relationship I don't see any reason why if things go full tailspin several episodes down the line for her she might not reach out for his assistance. Quinn clearly seems to have a real thing for MC and we as MC have had several opportunities to display our interest in her and peek beneath the layers of emotional armor she wears.
why would she ask him for help?

what would their current situation be?
that maybe they smoked a joint together and some casual sex?

they are not on good terms, MC explicitly says this to Sage, plus she also treats Maya badly ...
See and all of this depends on the choices along the route. This could be a huge story part and based upon choices especially along the chick side we as MC's might not have done any of the above. We might have told her Eff you and your menu, no weed (which means no casual sex) and might have stayed at Bella's or Derek's. That would negate the whole thing.
 

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with what right would you ask him for help?

what would their current situation be?
that maybe they smoked a joint together and some casual sex?

they are not on good terms, MC explicitly says this to Sage, plus she also treats Maya badly ...
Depending on your choices, they can be on good terms. The MC can confess to Sage he likes Quinn, have several sexual intercourses with her, try to kiss her and tell her he missed her at the Prep's party. Actually Quinn and the MC on a Dik path are getting along well. You're not even forced to defend Maya when Quinn scolded her.

But I agree, helping her should be optional for players. Unless the consequences become too important and the MC has to be involved for the greater good.
 

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Josy with MC is completely honest
she always told him that she was engaged, MC is an affair, and MC knows it, in fact towards Josy he only says nonsense, he is afraid, there is little to do

the story with MC is clearly over as soon as she arrives in Maya's room, they write to each other, they talk about each other but nobody talks about their relationship. it's over. when Josy talks about "we" she refers to the three of them, not to them 2

once they are all 3 in BR there is no moment when it is credible that MC has a chance to continue his story with one of the two girls.

why otherwise after the clarification "we are all cheaters" are the two girls officially a couple while MC has to beg for a friendship that does not exist?

on the hypothesis that it might be easier to reconquer Josy of Maya I agree, but it's a different matter
Haha! What..? Seriously, where is this coming from?
Are we even playing the same game here? What on earth did you do to get such outcomes?
Or are you just attempting to pass a draft of your alternate timeline fanfic here? Which is it?
 
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See and all of this depends on the choices along the route. This could be a huge story part and based upon choices especially along the chick side we as MC's might not have done any of the above. We might have told her Eff you and your menu, no weed (which means no casual sex) and might have stayed at Bella's or Derek's. That would negate the whole thing.
I have a feeling that no matter what players do, whether they rebuff her at every turn or do some/all things with her, we're all going to get swept up in her wake and the MC will be somewhat forced to deal with it even if he's not necessarily forced to help her. There could be certain choices on how the MC deals with the impending Quinn fallout that involve actually helping her because you want to help or simply helping her to help yourself and others get out of the mess she creates.
 
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I have a feeling that no matter what players do, whether they rebuff her at every turn or do some/all things with her, we're all going to get swept up in her wake and the MC will be somewhat forced to deal with it even if he's not necessarily forced to help her. There could be certain choices on how the MC deals with the impending Quinn fallout that involve actually helping her because you want to help or simply helping her to help yourself and others get out of the mess she creates.
See dumb shit right there. I'm not saying I disagree with you but that would be really piss poor writing. Honestly unless you are along the Sage route then Quinn getting in trouble due to drugs wouldn't really impact anyone other than maybe Tommy depending on his level of involvement. I know everyone hates my scientific, logical mind but just knowing someone doesn't get you in trouble with any sort of authority. Maya/Josy wouldn't get dragged into it. The HOT's MIGHT be screwed because most of them are doing and involved in the drugs, Sage would not get implicated because as far as we know and from what's been said she is against drugs. Tommy, Leon, Jamie and John Boy would get slaps on the wrist. Wrongful Possession and Use is trivial in the eyes of the law. Distribution however is HUGE!

Edit - I know I'm not the only one who thought the forced relationship with Maya/Josy was BS. This would be no different and in fact even worse because it could be life/game altering. Hell it could go against the whole affinity to have a Chick Good Guy be forced to help out a girl who has been selling drugs, women and is trying to pimp out 2 of his potential LI's. TALK ABOUT FUCKING STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I have a feeling that no matter what players do, whether they rebuff her at every turn or do some/all things with her, we're all going to get swept up in her wake and the MC will be somewhat forced to deal with it even if he's not necessarily forced to help her. There could be certain choices on how the MC deals with the impending Quinn fallout that involve actually helping her because you want to help or simply helping her to help yourself and others get out of the mess she creates.
What if this is a DIKs+Quinn kind of a situation? Since MC is now officially part of the fraternity, he'll get dragged into this one way or another.
 

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I almost finished ep 5 and gotta say this game is something else. I've played a few decent porn VNs of course (like WTHI) and don't want to take anything from those, but god, just how advanced BADIK is. The plot is very addictive and immersive. I love that college vibe. EVERY SINGLE render is hot as fuck, the graphics itself is something I haven't seen in any other VN before. The mechanics is so advanced that I can easily see me play it couple more times just to see things I ommited before.

My opinion is surely full of trivialities for you guys, based on how much discussion have been here concerning the game, but I just can't miss the opportunity to say how impressed I am by this game. Keep it up dev.
 

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Depending on your choices, they can be on good terms. The MC can confess to Sage he likes Quinn, have several sexual intercourses with her, try to kiss her and tell her he missed her at the Prep's party. Actually Quinn and the MC on a Dik path are getting along well. You're not even forced to defend Maya when Quinn scolded her.

But I agree, helping her should be optional for players. Unless the consequences become too important and the MC has to be involved for the greater good.
Yeah agree i’m Fine with any attempt to try and help her being optional.
 

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What if this is a DIKs+Quinn kind of a situation? Since MC is now officially part of the fraternity, he'll get dragged into this one way or another.
Furthermore, if Vinnie is effectively Quinn'supplier the whole thing will be bigger than her.
 

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See dumb shit right there. I'm not saying I disagree with you but that would be really piss poor writing. Honestly unless you are along the Sage route then Quinn getting in trouble due to drugs wouldn't really impact anyone other than maybe Tommy depending on his level of involvement. I know everyone hates my scientific, logical mind but just knowing someone doesn't get you in trouble with any sort of authority. Maya/Josy wouldn't get dragged into it. The HOT's MIGHT be screwed because most of them are doing and involved in the drugs, Sage would not get implicated because as far as we know and from what's been said she is against drugs. Tommy, Leon, Jamie and John Boy would get slaps on the wrist. Wrongful Possession and Use is trivial in the eyes of the law. Distribution however is HUGE!

Edit - I know I'm not the only one who thought the forced relationship with Maya/Josy was BS. This would be no different and in fact even worse because it could be life/game altering. Hell it could go against the whole affinity to have a Chick Good Guy be forced to help out a girl who has been selling drugs, women and is trying to pimp out 2 of his potential LI's. TALK ABOUT FUCKING STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't necessarily call it "piss poor writing", more like "not-so-great game design" because it gets back to my earlier point about the choices vs the overarching story and how the execution of these two things in tandem might not work so well in terms of player perception.

There will be players out there who have generally avoided things with Quinn - rejected her menu, gave up at the cumpetition, didn't stay with Sage, and didn't smoke weed with her - but because the overarching story will likely involve some big plot involving Quinn, all players will be forced to deal with it and her. This wouldn't be the fault of bad writing, but bad execution of giving people freedom of choice to avoid certain characters to the point where they feel like this character shouldn't be involved in the MC's story if they choose not to engage with them, and then having them be involved anyway because the story dictates that it be so.

It's a bit of a problem with this game where it seems that DPC wants to tell a particular story, but the choices being made aren't really driving that overall story and it's creating situations that seem contradictory to the choices that players can make along the way.
 
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I wouldn't necessarily call it "piss poor writing", more like "not-so-great game design" because it gets back to my earlier point about the choices vs the overarching story and how the execution of these two things in tandem might not work so well in terms of player perception.

There will be players out there who have generally avoided things with Quinn - rejected her menu, gave up at the cumpetition, didn't stay with Sage, and didn't smoke weed with her - but because the overarching story will likely involve some big plot involving Quinn, all players will be forced to deal with it and her. This wouldn't be the fault of bad writing, but bad execution of giving people freedom of choice to avoid certain characters to the point where they feel like this character shouldn't be involved in the MC's story if they choose not to engage with them, and then having them be involved anyway because the story dictates that it be so.

It's a bit of a problem with this game where it seems that DPC wants to tell a particular story, but the choices being made aren't really driving that overall story and it's creating situations that seem contradictory to the choices that players can make along the way.
Brotha you call it what you want, use whatever flowery words you feel are needed (this isn't a criticism of you). However DPC is the creator of this and if he want's to tell his story, I get it but then he should make it a KN not a VN/game. Half of the issues most of us have with the game would disappear if he did that, granted most of us wouldn't be here if he did that. There is no logical reason for a Chick Affinity, Maya/Josy Poly MC to give a flying fluck what happens to Quinn. You can't just write a story for one side of the affinity chart. Just like DIK's didn't like the Maya/Josy force, Chick's aren't going to like the potential Quinn force. If your going to create a game with choices than you need to be willing to create a branching game that takes into account those choices, right?

Edit - He has created a choose your own adventure that doesn't really let you choose anything substantial
 
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