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Wizard_Shiryuu

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Quality over quantity, mah' man.
A single day would be fine too if it's eventful.

But yeah, we need some time jumps too. MC's birthday is coming up, we need to get to that shit, pronto.

But yeah, I would choose quality over quantity, but I'd rather not choose at all :ROFLMAO: . Episode 5 was still good despite being 24h.
 
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I'm guessing you need to confront her instead of letting it slide? (Usually I pick the latter)
Even so, I don't recall the option to give her money when confronting her either. I'm kind of bummed out now. :(
Just checked, you do need to confront her about it. Not sure what could've gone wrong in your playthrough, I even refused the kiss during the party in EP4 so I basically had zero personal contact with her up until that point and I still emptied my pockets. Massive simp energy there. :KEK:
 

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Just checked, you do need to confront her about it. Not sure what could've gone wrong in your playthrough, I even refused the kiss during the party in EP4 so I basically had zero personal contact with her up until that point and I still emptied my pockets. Massive simp energy there. :KEK:
If it brings me closer to her and Quinn - I'm all in. I'm a disgrace. :HideThePain:
 
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Holy Bacchus

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It wouldn't be any problem for me and I even can understand why his Dad never told him, but it's obvious this MC has a hard time to cope with sudden revelations of that kind (and this would be an even bigger one than the M&J thing). For him it would mean his dad has been a liar all his life, and that's hard.

Again, the main problem would be that you can't (you shouldn't) base every single major game-changing event under the premise of a hidden info that could have been disclosed way before during a normal, serious conversation or even slipped in a casual one. That's just too much
And yet we're kind of being set up for that with Bella, Jill, the Sage/Chad relationship, Quinn, all keeping some sort of secret from the MC and others that will likely have game-changing ramifications.

People keep secrets from each other and aren't always 100% honest with their friends and relatives when they talk to them, and half-truths, false truths, and no truths are an aspect of "normal" conversations between people. You can be having a conversation with a good friend and ask them how they are and they'll respond with, "yeah, I'm doing fine", not, "I'm having a really hard time with my crippling debt, the possibility of losing my job, and the crushing reality of being a single parent".

There are times where you can't or won't share certain details about your life, especially if it's something that you find difficult to talk about and even moreso with a new person in your life who you're still not sure about.

Hold on sec, you can that on the CHICK route? You still have to take Quinn's number though, right?
If you want to go pure 100% CHICK by making all major CHICK decisions, then no, but you can accept her number and then choose the CHICK option for all other major decisions, so it's still a CHICK route but with 1 major DIK decision.

We've been over this before

1. It's not within Neil's character from what we've seen to keep something so important from his son especially when there's no good reason for it, your wishful thinking based off other forms of media isn't ample reasoning especially when there's zero evidence in game to support it.

2. Lets say that MC is a Burgmeister and his father chose hide it from him why not the fact his mother comes from big money in the first place?. The truth is MC wouldn't care too much about his lineage he'd be more hurt by his Father keeping something like that from him. MC didn't care much when he found out Jill was a Royce despite the fact that she tried to hide it from him. There's very little that would change with MC being a B vs another rich family. There's already a Burgmeister on campus that MC knows & associates with. Him being another would only add some shitty soap opera level drama of which this game has plenty of and doesn't need.
  1. Neil is portrayed as a caring, loving, and protective father and keeping the MC's lineage a secret could be something that fits prefectly well within that type of character if he believes that it is in the MC's best interests to keep him away from the wealthy family of his mother. There are plenty of ways in which he could have ample reasoning to keep it from him if he believes it's the right thing to do because that's what parents do; they make decisions based on what they think is best for their child.
  2. Neil could hide the fact that she came from big money, yes, but I think he's quite proud of the fact that this woman from a completely different economic and societal class fell in love with him and even left her family behind to be with him, which is why he tells his son that part of the story because it's inspiring.
  3. The MC might not care that Jill is a Royce legacy, but it would be a whole different feeling if he were to find that he is a Burgmeister because this affects him much more directly and having that kind of information would turn his life upside down as a result, whether he wants it to or not. It's not "shitty soap opera level drama", it would be a pivotal key change in the story that could have very interesting and important ramifications overall that actually make the story better.
 

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Okay, since we've returned discussion to MC family ties, it's time to share my hypothesis.

While the kinship of B., R. or even B. would carry certain complications, a presence of MC relative of at college would offer space for future interactions. We know that MC relatives are rich, which is why I think rich Rich is an MC cousin.

How would it fit in story without falling suddenly off the hook? Rich rich or rich Rich visited his sick grandmother (I don't have time to check what I remember, so hopefully that's accurate). Health problems, reminders of mortality, is something that can move with conscience and lead to try to establish a relationship with a rejected daughter and her family, all the more so if grandpa is no longer among them.

Rich rich or rich Rich is also very stressed. It could also be that instead of inheriting the entire property of grandparents, he should inherit only half. And since Rich Rich is no optimist to see a glass half full, he's not enjoying the idea of being a half-poor Rich.

We will see if my hypothesis will be confirmed, or it turns out I've been making wrong indications on base of false hints.
 

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And yet we're kind of being set up for that with Bella, Jill, the Sage/Chad relationship, Quinn, all keeping some sort of secret from the MC and others that will likely have game-changing ramifications.

People keep secrets from each other and aren't always 100% honest with their friends and relatives when they talk to them, and half-truths, false truths, and no truths are an aspect of "normal" conversations between people. You can be having a conversation with a good friend and ask them how they are and they'll respond with, "yeah, I'm doing fine", not, "I'm having a really hard time with my crippling debt, the possibility of losing my job, and the crushing reality of being a single parent".

There are times where you can't or won't share certain details about your life, especially if it's something that you find difficult to talk about and even moreso with a new person in your life who you're still not sure about.



If you want to go pure 100% CHICK by making all major CHICK decisions, then no, but you can accept her number and then choose the CHICK option for all other major decisions, so it's still a CHICK route but with 1 major DIK decision.


  1. Neil is portrayed as a caring, loving, and protective father and keeping the MC's lineage a secret could be something that fits prefectly well within that type of character if he believes that it is in the MC's best interests to keep him away from the wealthy family of his mother. There are plenty of ways in which he could have ample reasoning to keep it from him if he believes it's the right thing to do because that's what parents do; they make decisions based on what they think is best for their child.
  2. Neil could hide the fact that she came from big money, yes, but I think he's quite proud of the fact that this woman from a completely different economic and societal class fell in love with him and even left her family behind to be with him, which is why he tells his son that part of the story because it's inspiring.
  3. The MC might not care that Jill is a Royce legacy, but it would be a whole different feeling if he were to find that he is a Burgmeister because this affects him much more directly and having that kind of information would turn his life upside down as a result, whether he wants it to or not. It's not "shitty soap opera level drama", it would be a pivotal key change in the story that could have very interesting and important ramifications overall that actually make the story better.
Well, this is soap opera in my book. Poor, good guy discovering he's actually filthy rich. Not sure how that could make the story better, but it sure would be even less interesting as it has been told like trillion times. Honestly, I expect something better from DPC. That said, it's true the whole game has that soap opera vibe and maybe that's the reason I can't take it as the storytelling masterpiece most people think it is
 

Holy Bacchus

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Well, this is soap opera in my book. Poor, good guy discovering he's actually filthy rich. Not sure how that could make the story better, but it sure would be even less interesting as it has been told like trillion times. Honestly, I expect something better from DPC. That said, it's true the whole game has that soap opera vibe and maybe that's the reason I can't take it as the storytelling masterpiece most people think it is
It's more like a serialised TV drama or Netflix show than it is a soap opera. Soap operas are cheesy, overacted, and nonsensical, whereas a drama series can be a little more grounded in reality with some gritty aspects, but can also contain some extreme dramatic plot twists.
 

moskyx

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It's more like a serialised TV drama or Netflix show than it is a soap opera. Soap operas are cheesy, overacted, and nonsensical, whereas a drama series can be a little more grounded in reality with some gritty aspects, but can also contain some extreme dramatic plot twists.
Do you really think BaDIK is not cheesy, overacted an nonsensical? Who says soap operas can nt contain extreme dramatic plt twists? If the MC is a Burgmeister this would be a Venezuelan soap opera at its best, but in a US college setting.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Do you really think BaDIK is not cheesy, overacted an nonsensical? Who says soap operas can nt contain extreme dramatic plt twists? If the MC is a Burgmeister this would be a Venezuelan soap opera at its best, but in a US college setting.
Not saying that soap operas don't contain extreme dramatic plot twists, but simply that while the serialised TV dramas that you find on network TV and Netflix can have them too, they're not always as insane, over-the-top, and frequent. I mean, how many times can one small town/neighbourhood or even a single street have serial killers, rapists, rampant adultery, child abduction, house fires, etc. That's what soap operas are like, and this game isn't close to that. It's more like American Pie meets 90210.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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Not saying that soap operas don't contain extreme dramatic plot twists, but simply that while the serialised TV dramas that you find on network TV and Netflix can have them too, they're not always as insane, over-the-top, and frequent. I mean, how many times can one small town/neighbourhood or even a single street have serial killers, rapists, rampant adultery, child abduction, house fires, etc. That's what soap operas are like, and this game isn't close to that. It's more like American Pie meets 90210.
Well, maybe this is like Murder, she wrote. I don't know how people still live in that town with that crimerate, and why they don't run when they see Jessica Fletcher appear :ROFLMAO: .

Speaking seriously, there are so many things that can happen until it breaks your suspension of disbelief. If everyone is related to everyone, in one way or another. If for instance Tybalt would the the MC's father's employer and he used that to threaten us it would be too many coincidences for me.
 

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Unless the backstory was just tossed behind the mc so he could have at least some semblance of a past there is no way superdad came clear through and through. I can only repeat what i said a long long way back, after 0.2.

We have supposedly very rich grandparents from mom's side who, supposedly, died as we suppose to know... and yet we live in poverty somewhere at the edge of nowhere-town and we know absolutely nothing about our grandparents. Like.. seriously. They didn't give a shit about their grandson? No inheritance whatsoever? No legal fight over custody when dad was almost literally homeless? They just disowned daughter then grandson?

Dad never mentioned anything such. Just that they never accepted him. Thats very different from disowning daughter and grandson. The whole situation, the way i see it, is way more of a classic "Dad actually hides from them and keeps them away forcefully from son and vica versa". I'm pretty certain he lies massively. The meantime he can be a cool dad and whatnot, loving his son to death but this doesn't mean he can't have a very single-minded agenda whats "best for son" regardless what son might be thinking and either we figure out our own later on or simply he wasn't ready to tell yet but will, later on.

Otherwise the backstory is just silly. With rich grandparents we are basically beggars and dad hasn't made a single attempt to keep us in contact with grandparents. Told no reason whatsoever why we never attempted a visit, why they haven't attempted a visit. Beside a single supercheesy sentece which always suspicious of being a mere excuse.

It just doesn't sound believable that during all our hardship, being now 18+ we never seriously asked dad... we don't know our mother... yet we aren't interested in her past? Her parents? To ask them too how she was like? Dad never seemed eager to tell us about her either.

This "Died at childbirth. Rich parents. Never liked me. End of story" is such a joke.
 

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Unless the backstory was just tossed behind the mc so he could have at least some semblance of a past there is no way superdad came clear through and through. I can only repeat what i said a long long way back, after 0.2.

We have supposedly very rich grandparents from mom's side who, supposedly, died as we suppose to know... and yet we live in poverty somewhere at the edge of nowhere-town and we know absolutely nothing about our grandparents. Like.. seriously. They didn't give a shit about their grandson? No inheritance whatsoever? No legal fight over custody when dad was almost literally homeless? They just disowned daughter then grandson?

Dad never mentioned anything such. Just that they never accepted him. Thats very different from disowning daughter and grandson. The whole situation, the way i see it, is way more of a classic "Dad actually hides from them and keeps them away forcefully from son and vica versa". I'm pretty certain he lies massively. The meantime he can be a cool dad and whatnot, loving his son to death but this doesn't mean he can't have a very single-minded agenda whats "best for son" regardless what son might be thinking and either we figure out our own later on or simply he wasn't ready to tell yet but will, later on.

Otherwise the backstory is just silly. With rich grandparents we are basically beggars and dad hasn't made a single attempt to keep us in contact with grandparents. Told no reason whatsoever why we never attempted a visit, why they haven't attempted a visit. Beside a single supercheesy sentece which always suspicious of being a mere excuse.

It just doesn't sound believable that during all our hardship, being now 18+ we never seriously asked dad... we don't know our mother... yet we aren't interested in her past? Her parents? To ask them too how she was like? Dad never seemed eager to tell us about her either.

This "Died at childbirth. Rich parents. Never liked me. End of story" is such a joke.
The way I see it, we have 3 options:
  1. The Grandparents, specifically the Grandpa, did disown the MC's Mom and cut off all ties because they disapproved of her relationship with someone below her station
  2. The Grandparents disapproved but they wanted to help in some way, but Lynette refused because she didn't want to be reliant upon them
  3. The Grandparents, specifically the Grandpa, tried to get her back by force so Lynette and Liam had to run away and essentially try to hide from them.
In all cases, the Grandparents have now managed to track the MC down and are reaching out to him because they genuinely regret their past actions that pushed their daughter away and now want to make amends by inviting him into the family and offering to support him financially.

Additionally, if the MC's family are the Burgmeisters, it adds certain interesting wrinkles to the story.
  • Rusty is now cut off from him his family money to use for the DIKs, but then the MC would have access to that same money and it could drive a wedge between him and Rusty and possibly even the DIKs if he chooses not to tell them or use the money to support the DIKs like how it was before
  • The MC knows Maya needs tuition so he would now have the means to help her, but he could also choose not to
  • Quinn is in need of money as well, albeit for reasons unknown to the MC, so she could manipulate/blackmail/seduce him into being her sugar daddy and solving her financial issues
  • Jill might look upon him differently because I think she likes the fact that he's not a rich legacy like most of the people she seems to know, and she might be concerned that this new found wealth will change him
  • EDIT: We also have the added benefit of pissing off Tybalt because this once poor nobody who Jill is interested in is now a somebody with a very important family name.
 
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I'm not buying that mc is a Burgmeister, that's total bullshit at least for me.

So in a moment of reflection I've come up with a new hypothesis: surely the OMG story by Bella must mean something more than just a funny moment, otherwise I can't get why Cake even bothered to tell it.

At the beginning of the tale Bella says she was a freshman at this college named Smith&Reading, which is even bigger than B&R. Could Lynette's family be one of those two? Apart from Burgmeister and Royce, Smith and Reading are the only 2 surnames of rich families we know for now, so why not?

It seems that Sage comes from a rich family too, so maybe she could be either a Smith or Reading too, obviously the one different from that of the mc to prevent incest.

And maybe, just maybe, the red haired eccentric guy at the prep party could be a S&R and thus Sage's father, same for the old man wearing white jacket being Mr. Smith or Reading and thus mc's grandfather, but perhaps that's too much.

Damn too many maybe, what if etc. but we know nothing ffs:HideThePain:

But hey, at least is something new, never saw someone bringing this up:)

Hopefully I got something right, maybe not the mc family but at least Sage's one.
 

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Not necessarily, because there are still plenty of other people he's met so far that aren't family but who can choose to consider "family" due to close bonds of friendship, and even if one of those people is Rusty, it's still the MC's choice and not something he will simply accept because they're blood related.



Again, how would Neil keeping such a secret be a problem? There's ample reasoning why he would and the MC is a reasonable person who shares a close bond with his Dad so I'm sure that he wouldn't bear him any kind of grudge or feeling of betrayal if he found out that his Dad kept something like this from him.



Some people just won't know what pure bliss feels like. :giggle:

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I agree with you that Neil's relationship with his son preclude's him from keeping info about Lynnette from his son. I'm taking it as granted that L's family tried to take custody of the MC, and that's the reason for the legal bill's mentioned in Neil's bio. For that reason, it could be possible for Neil to have a motivation to keep things from the MC. I don't think it's believable. It doesn't fit the characters as they have been written so far. Then again, I don't think the scene with Maya and Josy in episode 4 was believable either, so who knows what will happen.
 
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