VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

Because I saw a dream sequence as a way for us to get an insight into his subconscious thoughts about all the relationship drama, particularly since the 3 LIs in that preview were the ones who have been pretty much unavoidable for the first 5 episodes. Using dream sequences in this way is a pretty common practice in fiction which is why it seems possible.

We don't need a dream sequence for that, dude. Because the MC constantly, telling the player what is in his mind.
it ad absolutely Fucking nothing to the story. Not for the mc, not for the relationships progress. It ad FUCKING NOTHING.

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

Actually, please do elaborate because I'm curious to know what people think they have to gain.

So far I've only ever seen people say that it's to get rid of the 2 fraternities because they get bullied by them, but that's such a weak-sauce reason that it would honestly bring the tone and quality of this game down if that were the case.

How exactly is years of constant bullying and humiliation a weaker excuse than the Alpha's "you took our girls, prepare for some rubber dicks and trashed furniture"? It won't win any awards for best writing but it's as good as any other reason presented so far.

 

[Bereg Jonis]

This. if we dive deeper in this , the Nerds actually can gain something, their own house! The Nerd are the only one without their own place, they are gathering in the library, they obviously can't mess with the Rich kids, and they cant take a fight in toe to toe , with the two big boy group. But if they able to put them against each other even more , and one of the two groups is suspended, they can occupy the empty house, and the upkeep, won't be too much of problem, they selling cheats.
so they are very much can be involved in this in some degree. I don't say they are the one who trashed the Diks mansion, I do believe those were the Jocks, but in the other stuffs, they can be involved.
and this is just a theory, not fact, i could be very much in wrong.

Yes, this is why i brought up this theory aswell. The nerds actually have something to gain. Sure it could be the houses, but it could just be revenge. They are bully targets from both DIKs and Jocks(i don't know if it actually shows the jocks being bullied, but i would be surprised if they aren't, considering what we seen so farm from the Jocks). A war between the DIKs and Jocks, created by the Nerds would be a sweet revenge story. Yes, we are going down the rabbit hole, but hey, it's fun to think about these theories ok, we have some spare time until the next episode comes out anyway

Quinn for the Cathy pic and not sure on the pictures sent to Chad and Dawe.

As much as it would "fit" the character of Quinn, why would she do it? I don't think this war betweeen Jocks and DIKs benefits her or her business in any way. The jocks being watched already put her business in a tough spot, causing the same to the DIKs wouldn't make much sense in my opinion. I think some other party have done that.

Do we know if the DIK's always had the picture but never posted or it was taken by someone and just posted in their cluck?

I honestly think this Cathy thing has a lot more to it than just "hey, let's play a prank on the the DIKs".

 

[Holy Bacchus]

We don't need a dream sequence for that, dude. Because the MC constantly, telling the player what is in his mind.
it ad absolutely Fucking nothing to the story. Not for the mc, not for the relationships progress. It ad FUCKING NOTHING.

I dunno, I kinda like the idea of seeing a dream sequence where he fools around with elf Jill only to be found out by Maya and Josy who attack him and chop off his head. To me, that would show that, subconsciously, he's concerned about what the girls he's with/been with will feel about seeing him with someone else and what the ramifications could be for his relationship with them. Obviously not such extreme ramifications as the dream, but that something bad might come of it.

As much as it would "fit" the character of Quinn, why would she do it? I don't think this war betweeen Jocks and DIKs benefits her or her business in any way. The jocks being watched already put her business in a tough spot, causing the same to the DIKs wouldn't make much sense in my opinion. I think some other party have done that.

Do we know if the DIK's always had the picture but never posted or it was taken by someone and just posted in their cluck?

I honestly think this Cathy thing has a lot more to it than just "hey, let's play a prank on the the DIKs".

Well, as the theory goes, it's not getting about getting into the feud with the DIKs and Jocks or trying to fuel it in any way, it would just be that she's desperate for money and probably knows about the DIKs safe, so she needed time and a distraction to find it and maybe tried to access it. The picture was likely taken by a HOT since Cathy's clearly in the women's locker room, and so it was maybe uploaded by Riona hence why she was sat outside the library where the laptop was found and seemed a bit out of sorts when the MC spoke to her because she was feeling guilty.

This theory has been doing the rounds for a while and whilst it's defintely reckless, Quinn's a wild card and I can totally see her doing this and not thinking it would have any serious consequences,

 

[Holy Bacchus]

How exactly is years of constant bullying and humiliation a weaker excuse than the Alpha's "you took our girls, prepare for some rubber dicks and trashed furniture"? It won't win any awards for best writing but it's as good as any other reason presented so far.

Just don't really see why they'd risk putting their head above the parapet like this with such elaborate schemes for temporary gain. Doesn't really seem like much of a benefit either since getting rid of the frats doesn't get rid of the people in the frats, so there's nothing to stop them from further potential bullying.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I dunno, I kinda like the idea of seeing a dream sequence where he fools around with elf Jill only to be found out by Maya and Josy who attack him and chop off his head. To me, that would show that, subconsciously, he's concerned about what the girls he's with/been with will feel about seeing him with someone else and what the ramifications could be for his relationship with them. Obviously not such extreme ramifications as the dream, but that something bad might come of it.

Don't get me wrong, but this is S+ Tier bullshit. and more than likely you will be the only person who would actually enjoy some garbage like this . DPC will immediately lose all of his credibility. Inception, was just a movie. Dreams does not work like that. Dreams are just Dreams. couple of weeks ago I dreamed that I was Fucking Nina Dobrev, But then I wake up, and she doesn't even know I exist. it was not real.

not so long ago, you complained about "waste of time" stuff. Yet, here you are, thinking that what you just say, would not be an absolute waste of time slap in the face, DPC literally had to see his audience as Morons to pull something like this.
Half a Year waiting, for a Dream scenario, that add literally nothing to the story, because Dream josy and dream maya and dream jill, are not REAL.
whatever happens in dream is not affecting the real life. and MC does not need a dream scenario for these stuff, It is more significant if it's happen in real life, when he has to face these challenges in the real life. and this is exactly what this DnG Game seems to be all about.

or , they are just having FUN.

 

[Bereg Jonis]

Well, as the theory goes, it's not getting about getting into the feud with the DIKs and Jocks or trying to fuel it in any way, it would just be that she's desperate for money and probably knows about the DIKs safe, so she needed time and a distraction to find it and maybe tried to access it. The picture was likely taken by a HOT since Cathy's clearly in the women's locker room, and so it was maybe uploaded by Riona hence why she was sat outside the library where the laptop was found and seemed a bit out of sorts when the MC spoke to her because she was feeling guilty.

This theory has been doing the rounds for a while and whilst it's defintely reckless, Quinn's a wild card and I can totally see her doing this and not thinking it would have any serious consequences,

Yes, i could see that. Maybe she might think with Rusty being who he is, they probably wont get into much trouble.

But i don't know, it still feels a bit off to me. I could totally see this happening, and for what is worth, i still think it probably is the case, but i'm willing to think there's more to it.

 

[Warped77]

So, basically, we've decided that no matter what form the DnG game takes or who is behind the trashing of the DIK house... it's terrible writing on DPC's part??

Okay.

Cool. Cool.

 

[ChipLecsap]

So, basically, we've decided that no matter what form the DnG game takes or who is behind the trashing of the DIK house... it's terrible writing on DPC's part??

Okay.

Cool. Cool.

I didn't say that, personally. don't generalize. .

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

Just don't really see why they'd risk putting their head above the parapet like this with such elaborate schemes for temporary gain. Doesn't really seem like much of a benefit either since getting rid of the frats doesn't get rid of the people in the frats, so there's nothing to stop them from further potential bullying.

Never been bullied so it's hard for me to imagine how far someone with that experience would be willing to go, even just for temporary gains. But I'd assume there's a point where rationality goes out the window and the only thing that matters is payback. "Sending a message" and such.

There's also DPC taking inspiration from college comedy movies and shows where nerds vs jocks storylines aren't exactly rare. One that comes to mind is an episode of Blue Mountain State where the nerds revolt due to the all the abuse and refuse to do the football team's homework anymore. It's obvious they won't be able to maintain that for long since they're defenseless but do it anyway because they've had enough. They even come up with a plot to secretly ruin a party organized in the football players' honor.

Not the same level of scheming, I know. Nor does it prove that something like this will happen in BaDIK in any way. But taking a "faction" that's been almost entirely absent from the story and finally doing something with them doesn't seem like bad writing to me.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Don't get me wrong, but this is S+ Tier bullshit. and more than likely you will be the only person who would actually enjoy some garbage like this . DPC will immediately lose all of his credibility. Inception, was just a movie. Dreams does not work like that. Dreams are just Dreams. couple of weeks ago I dreamed that I was Fucking Nina Dobrev, But then I wake up, and she doesn't even know I exist. it was not real.

not so long ago, you complained about "waste of time" stuff. Yet, here you are, thinking that what you just say, would not be an absolute waste of time slap in the face, DPC literally had to see his audience as Morons to pull something like this.
Half a Year waiting, for a Dream scenario, that add literally nothing to the story, because Dream josy and dream maya and dream jill, are not REAL.
whatever happens in dream is not affecting the real life. and MC does not need a dream scenario for these stuff, It is more significant if it's happen in real life, when he has to face these challenges in the real life. and this is exactly what this DnG Game seems to be all about.

or , they are just having FUN.

You're probably right that I would enjoy it because I've read some very interesting books about dream psychology and dream interpretation, and some of the patient case studies are quite fascinating. Sometimes dreams can be a manifestation of subconscious thought in an abstract way, and others are pretty straight forward, so I don't mind dream sequences if the purpose is to show these subconscious thoughts of the MC in an entertaining way. Can give us an insight into their headspace at a given moment in the story.

 

[cryhwks]

Any good recommendations for games that are completed? I've played Dreams Of Desire, Sisterly Lust, Time Stamps.

 

[mindern]

Just don't really see why they'd risk putting their head above the parapet like this with such elaborate schemes for temporary gain. Doesn't really seem like much of a benefit either since getting rid of the frats doesn't get rid of the people in the frats, so there's nothing to stop them from further potential bullying.

This is why my money is on it being motivated by someone wanting to destroy the DIK’s as an organisation not the people in it. The pressure is on the organisation not the people.

Whomever is fuelling the Alpha/DIK feud and putting the DIK’s in the crosshairs of the university by leaking the Cathy picture (assuming it’s the same person) has specifically done stuff to paint a target on the DIKs as a whole rather than any specific person.

They just as easily could have framed any one individual for all this stuff, but didn’t. They were ambiguous to drive retribution against the DIKs as a whole rather than any one person.

 

[ChipLecsap]

You're probably right that I would enjoy it because I've read some very interesting books about dream psychology and dream interpretation, and some of the patient case studies are quite fascinating. Sometimes dreams can be a manifestation of subconscious thought in an abstract way, and others are pretty straight forward, so I don't mind dream sequences if the purpose is to show these subconscious thoughts of the MC in an entertaining way. Can give us an insight into their headspace at a given moment in the story.

 

[Dashxp4k]

Quinn for the Cathy pic and not sure on the pictures sent to Chad and Dawe. At a push, I could suspect Tommy because he would certainly have access to the pictures of his fellow DIK brothers fucking Arieth and he certainly likes to piss off the Jocks. He may also have found out something about Chad that he wanted to rub in his face.

Also, it's not blackmail as far as we know. All we know is that Chad got something that upset him and he seems to think that whoever sent him it is trying to hurt him, but it's not clear this is some kind of blackmail attempt.

The idea of the Nerds doing some kind of shady cloak and dagger stuff just feels a bit too Saturday morning cartoonish, like they're some sort of Scooby Doo villain going to elaborate lengths to cause chaos for some arbitrary reason.



Probably just a comical scene where they open their phone and find that the wallpaper is the MC's baseball bat and nothing more than that.

Its fan art by the way

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

Easy now, fellas. Let Bacchus enjoy his dream interpretation, it can be a fascinating subject if maybe a tad bit too deep for a game centered around banging college chicks without rubber. In turn, let us prefer events that happen in the material world.

Also, Chip. I've always been suspicious because of your name but now you come clean about your intention of fucking Nina Dobrev, which is a known obsession of a certain nationality. So forgive my bluntness but I have to ask; are you by any chance Hungarian?

 

[ashitanojoe]

Look at this colombian beauty, Sara Orrego:

 

[ename144]

He never says the word "blackmail".
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We know he feels "threatened" by what he received, but it's not clear if he just perceives it like that or if he was actually threatened.

I'm inclined to agree that whatever was in the envelope was not a blackmail attempt, because Chad's response was to rush off and beat up the MC. If there had been an ultimatum with the envelope, then Chad was flagrantly disregarding it. Normally that results in the blackmailer exposing the secret, yet no shoe has dropped since then.

Unless beating up the MC was the order. I'd never considered that before. It would explain a few things. But it's hard to square that with the way Chad breaks down and tells the MC not to threaten him again. So probably another dead end. Never mind.

Anyway, it's possible Chad attacked the MC in a rage then realized his mistake and decided to knuckle under off-screen, but that would be narratively unsatisfying. Short of that or the 'ordered to attack the MC' idea, I think we can rule out a blackmail attempt. The letters seem to have been intended only to frighten and/or unsettle Chad (mission accomplished). It's possible they were step 1 in a blackmail attempt that's still to come, but if so it's a pretty bizarre way to go about it.

 

[Bereg Jonis]

Never been bullied so it's hard for me to imagine how far someone with that experience would be willing to go, even just for temporary gains. But I'd assume there's a point where rationality goes out the window and the only thing that matters is payback. "Sending a message" and such.

I skipped one year of school. So i was always the youngest in my class. I don't think i got bullied, it was more of a hazing if anything, but anyway, i was always the shorter/weaker guy, taking revenge in a physical way was kind of stupid, so had to find "creative ways" to get revenge. Never really fought anybody, things got physical some times but never really a fight, trading punches and such, if anything i learned to stand up for myself.

 

[flippityflop]

It's been discussed before, primarily by others but I can subscribe to it, that perhaps Quinn was trying to access the safe to get some money to pay her dealers and used the chaos caused by the picture as a distraction. With the frantic searching for the laptop, nobody would bother her in that room since they know it's not in there, but she couldn't get in and that's why the picture hiding it was slighly askew.

So what you're saying is: Quinn hatches a plan, to frame the DIKs, the fraternity she's on good terms with, by posting Cathy's picture, from THEIR Rooster account, to cause a commotion in order to get to their safe, to which she doesn't have the code for and potentially fuck everything up just because she's a bit short on cash?
Umm... okay?

She also doesn't seem like she really thinks things through a lot of the time or at least doesn't think her actions will have much negative consequences, so she probably didn't expect there to be much fallout and we'll see what happens on Monday after Rusty's meeting with the counselors, but if it's really bad, she wouldn't have wanted or expected it.

I liken Quinn a little to what the Joker said of himself in The Dark Knight; she's a dog chasing cars who wouldn't know what do with one if she caught it, she just does things.

I'm not sure how she's given you that impression. I don't recall Quinn ever doing something on a whim.

Her plan with ANO didn't go as planned because she overestimated her potential clientele.
Derek setting off the fire sprinklers probably didn't help her much either.

Other than that, Quinn appears to be very much aware of her actions and the consequences the said actions might present.
She's arrogant and overconfident, sure. But she's not dumb or reckless.

Who says it's covert? Most of those pics are clearly from phones so they're probably on the DIK laptop. He also might have inadvertently stumbled upon Chad doing something and is now messing with him.

Because if Tommy had something on the jocks and intended to fuck with them, he would've done it openly and would probably make a show out of it.

He never says the word "blackmail".
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We know he feels "threatened" by what he received, but it's not clear if he just perceives it like that or if he was actually threatened.

Oh right, my bad then.

But I'm absolutely positive it's being referred to as "blackmail" at some point... I'm gonna have to refresh my memory on this one.

Actually, please do elaborate because I'm curious to know what people think they have to gain.

So far I've only ever seen people say that it's to get rid of the 2 fraternities because they get bullied by them, but that's such a weak-sauce reason that it would honestly bring the tone and quality of this game down if that were the case.

Let's just call it "financial security" with some good ol' fashioned revenge mixed in. Or the other way around. Whichever works for you.
Like I said, I really don't want to expand upon it further, mostly because I don't have much to back up my claims with.

And in case it wasn't obvious already, everything I've said concerning the "OMG the nerds are teh tru villains" theory, was just conjecture. I'm not married to any of these ideas.