felicemastronzo

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I think Rusty would disagree. I imagine he'd be thrilled to find out the MC is a cousin.



I think you don't understand what it means to grow up under the poverty line. Such questions are a luxury for someone who struggles daily.
Would asking your father for your mother's surname be a luxury?


I personally think making the MC a Burg would just confirm my own opinions on DPC's writing.....I really hope it doesn't go in that direction, it's just too easy and lame. I can't see it happening though.
and useless

The MC has seemingly asked Neil over the years, but his "memory" isn't so good and he never gives the MC a clear, straight answer, instead he goes off on tangents and mentions a lot of irrelevant details that ends up frustrating the MC. This much is made clear in ep 1 when we get a bit of the story of how the parents met and it's likely one of the reasons why the MC doesn't ask much about her.
Doesn't Neil remember his wife's last name?

and can he work as a carpenter? !!

we are at the level of basic information, which I doubt MC can not get the same even without the help of the father (who should still justify his choice)
 
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I personally think making the MC a Burg would just confirm my own opinions on DPC's writing.....I really hope it doesn't go in that direction, it's just too easy and lame. I can't see it happening though.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I think we're all very much aware of your opinion on DPC's writing. There's really no need to bring that up at every opportunity you get. It's getting a bit excessive at this point.
 

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I personally think making the MC a Burg would just confirm my own opinions on DPC's writing.....I really hope it doesn't go in that direction, it's just too easy and lame. I can't see it happening though.
As I'm surely is plainly evident by now, I have absolutely no problem if this were to be the case because I actually think it would be a very good twist for all that it could do to affect the dynamic of the story and the MC's relationships with certain characters.

I also don't think it's fair to say that predictability makes someone a bad writer. After all, this story is still incredibly engaging and intriguing in a lot of ways and people have very strong opinions and views on the characters and the story itself. To be able to do that is, for me, the mark of a great writer; to be able to make your audience care that much because they've put so much effort into crafting a rich story with characters that people have come to care for so deeply.
 
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I just can't understand why so many countries use just the father's surname. Quite convenient for plot twists like this one, though. But seriously, it doesn't make any sense from a lot of perspectives
 

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I just can't understand why so many countries use just the father's surname. Quite convenient for plot twists like this one, though. But seriously, it doesn't make any sense from a lot of perspectives

this habit rarely creates twists, in incest porn it happens more often :LOL:
 
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As I'm surely is plainly evident by now, I have absolutely no problem if this were to be the case because I actually think it would be a very good twist for all that it could do to affect the dynamic of the story and the MC's relationships with certain characters.

I also don't think it's fair to say that predictability makes someone a bad writer. After all, this story is still incredibly engaging and intriguing in a lot of ways and people have very strong opinions and views on the characters and the story itself. To be able to do that is, for me, the mark of a great writer; to be able to make your audience care that much because they've put so much effort into crafting a rich story with characters that people have come to care for so deeply.
My issue with MC being a Burg is that it would take a big world and make it small; I have the same issue with Star Wars (I don't need Chewie in Revenge of the Sith, nor do I need Rey to be related to an established Force user, especially as it is long established that Jedi are celibate and using the Force is actually really easy for those with a high midi-chlorian count)
 

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I like you flip...but are we not allowed opinions now on what I personally think would be a terrible writing decision? (as it's the current topic of conversation). People repeat shit all the time here...
Of course we are allowed opinions. But you keep bringing up your displeasure with his writing in general. And that doesn't help anyone.
Writing DPC an open letter with your constructive criticism would be a much more productive and healthier way to vent your frustration.
 
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I tried once to play this game since it is loved so much. But, the setting "fraternity" really threw me off. There isn't anything like that that exists where i live. I wonder if anyone had the same difficulty, i am going to try it out a second time (i really want to like this game lol). It would really piss me off, if i still can't get on board.
 

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Agree with much of that yes, I wouldn't be here myself otherwise heh. But it's almost like it's a crime to actually cririsize him at times, like it's not allowed to call out a dev on bad designs, lazy writing, bad programing or anything else. I agree the majority of the characters are great, the story is interesting...just 'my opinion' making the MC a secret Burg would be cheap, lazy and the easy cop-out way of adding extra uneccessary 'drama' which I don't think this game really needs. There is enough going on already that is interesting.
Some of the best and most popular pieces of pop culture have simple, formulaic plots without much in the way of shocking and surprising plots twists that you didn't see coming, but it doesn't make them any less great. I don't see how this game potentially having an "easy" plot twist brings it down in any way because plot twists don't make a story great, it's the quality of the story overall itself that defines its greatness.
 

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I tried once to play this game since it is loved so much. But, the setting "fraternity" really threw me off. There isn't anything like that that exists where i live. I wonder if anyone had the same difficulty, i am going to try it out a second time (i really want to like this game lol). It would really piss me off, if i still can't get on board.
As a Brit the whole faternity/sorority thing is fairly alien to me as well but, having seen a fuckload of American movies, I get the references.
 

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Why? Marital tradition all over the world....
There are many countries with different rules and traditions. In my opinion, using just the father's one is quite demeaning for women and their roots, also a double surname provides more info about your background and helps to differenciate people from others. But I'm not starting a discussion like the spelling war from yesterday
 

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There are many countries with different rules and traditions. In my opinion, using just the father's one is quite demeaning for women and their roots, also a double surname provides more info about your background and helps to differenciate people from others. But I'm not starting a discussion like the spelling war from yesterday
In my country, those with a double barreled surname are considered to be pretentious twats.

It also doesn't solve the patriarchal issue because there is no set standard for which name goes first :p
 

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There are many countries with different rules and traditions. In my opinion, using just the father's one is quite demeaning for women and their roots, also a double surname provides more info about your background and helps to differenciate people from others. But I'm not starting a discussion like the spelling war from yesterday
and when two people with double surname have a kid, the kid ends up with 4 surnames. using just one is easier to remember
 
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