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And that is where a lack of physical attraction to men comes in, which maya has expressed how she is generally not attracted to men. She likes the mc because she finds him womanish.
Womanish? Whats womanish You mean feminine? Nah, the dudes jacked with the biggest wang on campus... Him listening and being compassionate, thats why she likes him.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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Are there any changes in scenes or dialogue when MC doesn't say anything about Quinn to Maya?

In my play through where I asked Maya to be cautious of Quinn,Maya asks Sage to change her mother which makes Quinn angry.
Is that the only scene difference or were there any other differences?
Nothing really except some dialogue difference, that choice will have consequences for Maya so it's better to tell her about Quinn.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Womanish? Whats womanish You mean feminine? Nah, the dudes jacked with the biggest wang on campus... Him listening and being compassionate, thats why she likes him.
And it's the attentiveness and compassion that she finds "womanish" because it would seem as though she hasn't known many guys with these qualities.
 

Jimayo

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Womanish? Whats womanish You mean feminine? Nah, the dudes jacked with the biggest wang on campus... Him listening and being compassionate, thats why she likes him.
And she describes it as being like woman if you go to her after josy's dad leaves in ep. 5.
 

ename144

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Again though, if Jill is aware she has this kind of problem, I don't see her being as comfortable as she was with sharing her bed with the MC.
You're conflating awareness of a problem with acknowledgement that it IS a problem. It's entirely possible that Jill is aware the sleep humping thingy has happened before but believes that it is not a persistent problem (either in ignorance or embarrassment). People can be very good at rationalizing away unwanted truths.

Also, during that exchange it feels like Bella is the one carrying the guilt over whatever happened before. She's the one turns from Jill when they're looking at each, she's the one who gets very defensive when Jill tries to reassure he that whatever happened before won't happen again, and then she pushes the picture of her and James to the floor in apparent frustration. If Jill had done to Bella as she had done to the MC, I don't see why Bella would be so defensive and unwilling to talk about it because it wasn't her fault. The way she acts makes it seem like she feels somewhat responsible for whatever it was that happened between them.
Bella is short with Jill, but IMHO Jill seems to be the defensive one. She's the one who actually brings up "it," and Jill definitely took umbrage when Bella rejects her reassurances.

What that actually means is anybody's guess. We just don't know enough about Bella to speculate usefully at this point. Hopefully that will change soon.

Sure some die hard fans can easily find these thoughts from Bella after lashing out a nerd in the library in ep3, just before the scene that ends with the infamous "I'd have called for help". I've seen a lot of theories about that phrase and also about the Jill/Bella bedroom scene but this one seems to have been forgotten, although it could reinforce some of those theories:

isa "(I did the right thing.)"
isa "(This was for Jill.)"
isa "(Married women don't fool around with young students.)"
isa "(...)"
isa "(They aren't intimate with friends either...)"
isa "(But that...that was different!)"
isa "(It doesn't matter... I've stopped it.)"
isa "(Please, James... Forgive me.)"
isa "(Please, just come home again...)"
isa "(It's been long enough now.)"
The thing I note about this exchange is that Bella makes it sound like fooling around with young students and being intimate with friends are two different instances.

If that's the case, she either fooled around with Jill before she was a student (so not going there), or she was talking about someone else.
 

Holy Bacchus

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You're conflating awareness of a problem with acknowledgement that it IS a problem. It's entirely possible that Jill is aware the sleep humping thingy has happened before but believes that it is not a persistent problem (either in ignorance or embarrassment). People can be very good at rationalizing away unwanted truths.
But even if that were what happened between Bella and Jill, and Jill viewed it as just a one-time thing, it should still have given her pause when inviting the MC to share her bed because she can't guarantee that it won't happen again, and given that Jill is seemingly a very careful and mindful person, you would think she would consider this might happen.

Bella is short with Jill, but IMHO Jill seems to be the defensive one. She's the one who actually brings up "it," and Jill definitely took umbrage when Bella rejects her reassurances.
Her shortness is defensive because when Jill brings it up, Bella essentially snaps at her for doing so and tries to end the conversation showing that she doesn't want to talk about it, which are very much the actions of a defensive person and one who likely wants to just forget about what happened. The fact that Jill felt it needed to be mentioned shows that she was trying to clear the air about something that Bella did not want to discuss, making Bella seem like the one who feels most guilty for what happened and her stuborness is what causes frustration in Jill, but certainly doesn't make Jill the defensive one.

The thing I note about this exchange is that Bella makes it sound like fooling around with young students and being intimate with friends are two different instances.

If that's the case, she either fooled around with Jill before she was a student (so not going there), or she was talking about someone else.
The 2 aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but rather that Bella would view Jill more as a friend than a student, because theirs is a relationship defined more by friendship than by the teacher/student dynamic, most likely because they've known each other since before Jill enrolled at B&R.
 

Roelandt

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HEY, HOLY BACCUS! I'm gonna come out and admit it.

My first month or so on this forum I seriously thought you were DPC lurking the site. You seemed to have insights into the game that made me think you knew things only DPC would know. It wasn't until I played the game through a few times that I realized that you were Just This Guy who paid attention to the game.

Hehe.

Just thought you might like to know that....
 

tripod70

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No, because the Steam saves don't work on this version and vice-versa, so you can't mess anything up. You'l have to play this game from the beginning again with this version, but I recommend just waiting for Ep 6 as the full game in the link in the OP won't work with the update patch.
Well I guess all I can say is Crap... I hate to trudge through it all again and build the different paths through it again. Thanks for the info HB
 

DuckDairyDip

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People who’s saying not she’s dead.. you must be really dumb. MC himself said she died during Child birth. What is she gonna do come back alive and show up at the DIKS house? And yes I know it’s possible because he was just a baby and he doesn’t remember stuff, but do you really think DPC wants to bring back a “dead” character and just bring in so much more story arcs when he hasn’t even fished M&J, Quinn and Rionna’s drug deals, Dealing with the DIK mansion, MC possibly being Rusty’s cousin and so much more. If DPC was to bring back a “dead” character that haven’t been in MC life his whole life, it’ll really mess up the storyline
That first part is true though I just wouldn't be surprised of at least some twist involving her death or even "death." I don't subscribe to the MC is possibly Rusty's cousin theory though, but possible.
 
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Sajib437

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Guys I'm eagerly waiting about Mc's mother sides letter. What will it be?
We all know that mc's mother came from a very rich and powerful family.
 

7inn

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Guys I'm eagerly waiting about Mc's mother sides letter. What will it be?
We all know that mc's mother came from a very rich and powerful family.
Well yeah.. Im so hyped to know it. But we'll have to wait. But its gonna be worth!!!
 

B-52reloaded

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As far as a Bella/Jill past homosexual relationship, I see no indication of that (beyond theories and wishful thinking). The "partially spoken" clues point more likely to Bella apparently expressing interest in Jill's past romantic interests. The line "I won't let that happen again" and Bella's several private thoughts seems more likely to be alluding to Jill's observation that Bella is attracted to MC which we note in the scene where MC is playing guitar for the two and Bella gives him that SUPER CREEPY look, that Jill notices and is bothered by, hinting that Bella has done this before. In context, their conversation later and Bella numerous thought scenes, that makes sense, and opens credence to many of the theories to something strange if not out and out scary with Bella and the "Door".

Lots the conversations and thoughts of Bella in particular make no sense if the "mystery element" is just the two being romantically involved, and...frankly...was already done with Josie/Maya, so I doubt DPC would plagiarize himself in a single story.

My unspoken but Strongly-Hope-Isn't-True-So-I-Won't-Mention-It (but the update is about to come out so I'll just say it) is...disturbing as it sounds. Based on Bella thoughts, Jill's cross eyed looks, MC's peaking under the door, Jill tempted to try the Door, and the disturbing words of the narrative/MC after kissing Bella in the library: Does Jill have an unspoken suspicion that Bella "did something" to someone Jill was attracted to? Is that suspicion what is the source of the tension between the two ladies? Did Bella just try to steal a love interest of Jill, or was it more nefarious? Did she drive someone away? Did she hurt someone? Is she holding someone behind the Door? Is it someone Jill cared about in the past? I HOPE I AM WRONG! But that's my (until now) unspoken theory. All the clues point to something creepy and scary. But I HOPE I'M WRONG. PLEASE MAKE ME WRONG, DPC!

Food for thought. All theories are just theories at this point, but we'll find out soon enough.....

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Maybe we are deliberately mislead and not Bella but Jill is the (dangerous) psycho - and Bella as a friend or the older sisters friend just tries to protect and help Bella. Now that would be a twist worthy of DPC !:D
 

tonyQ46

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Ugh, alright how do you do the Tennis minigame? I've been clicking on the right tennis ball and when they are high in the power bar. This gets me through game one easy, but no matter what I do the other two games Jill wins. I looked up "tennis" on the search but I'm not getting much. I tried someone's suggestion to aim more towards the middle but honestly it felt like I was doing better when I tried for the full power smashes. Any advice?
 
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