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Heather literally says that Sage is a senior while talking to Riona.

"I think the stress of being a senior is starting to affect her leadership" or something along the lines like that.
For the life of me I can't find their convo, can you give me some pointers? Like, at least narrow it down to an episode so I don't have to skip through that much content.:D
 
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Right before yoga scene
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Thanks, I was about to give up, couldn't find it.:D Well I'm not going to assume DPC just "forgot" what he wrote one episode earlier, doesn't seem like something he'd do. And as Wizard_Shiryuu has pointed it out, the use of "next year" in a different context could be due to the language barrier. I haven't considered that because my native language has the same words just like in English and during 6 years of university I've never heard someone use that term referring to calendar years when the topic was school related.

I'll just go cry in a corner now.:cry:
 

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Are you seriously suggesting that students in a college setting would normally use the phrase "next year" meaning the next calendar year instead of the clearly obvious meaning of next school year? Really?:D
Yes, I'd assume if she was a 3rd year she would say ''I'm graduating next semester" not "next year". So she's in her 4th year and will graduate months later.
Besides it wouldn't make sense for her to be a 3rd year, she was shown as president of HOTs in DIKs flashback where Tommy and Rusty were 1st years. Tommy and Rusty are now 4th years, so Sage should be too.

I don't get why Jill was at the preps mansion at the time, she's currently a 3rd year so she shouldn't be in college during the flashback. I assume she's applying or scouting the preps for a place to stay when she comes to the college next semester.
 
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Yes, I'd assume if she was a 3rd year she would say ''I'm graduating next semester" not "next year". So she's in her 4th year and will graduate months later.
Given that the Fall semester just started, saying "I'm graduating next semester" would literally mean she's in her 4th year, since that next semester is the Spring one, exactly when people normally graduate. If that was the line I would've never assumed she wasn't a senior in the first place.

Heather's comment most likely still settles the debate but you got that first part a little backwards.:D
 

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Are you seriously suggesting that students in a college setting would normally use the phrase "next year" meaning the next calendar year instead of the clearly obvious meaning of next school year? Really?:D
In this context, "year" can have a double meaning as it can refer to both the academic year and calendar year. Oftentimes people will use it to mean the same thing, so if someone were to say something along the lines of, "this is my final year so I'll be graduating next year", then they're using that double meaning. Sage doesn't say the first part, but it always felt clear to me that when she said she was, "graduating next year", that she meant the next calendar year and that this was her final year because this is how I've known people to speak about this kind of thing.
 
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Given that the Fall semester just started, saying "I'm graduating next semester" would literally mean she's in her 4th year, since that next semester is the Spring one, exactly when people normally graduate. If that was the line I would've never assumed she wasn't a senior in the first place.

Heather's comment most likely still settles the debate but you got that first part a little backwards.:D
Fair enough, we don't use the term semester here in the UK. I assumed it meant next school year, not term. The dialogue really is a language barrier
 
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Yeah, Sage probably should have said, "in the spring," or "next semester" instead of next year. That's how I've heard people in the U.S. say it (but I never really took note of the specific in-game location for B&R). I recently replayed chapter 5 and Sage herself says that she is a senior during her guitar lesson in the grass with MC. I don't have a screenshot of it though.
 

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Fair enough, we don't use the term semester here in the UK. I assumed it meant next school year, not term. The dialogue really is a language barrier
Semester and term are kind of the same thing as they refer to a particular block of time within the academic year. The main difference, I believe, is that "semester" refers to each full half of the academic year (the Fall semester that ends before Christmas and the Spring semester than runs to the end of the school year), and "term" refers to smaller chunks within the school year, like how the first half up to Christmas is divided into 1st term, half-term, and then 2nd term.

Even with that, "term" seems to generally be used more formally by teachers, news reporters, and politicians, because when I was in school we students would more typically use "year" as a double meaning which is what Sage would seem to be doing here.

Yeah, Sage probably should have said, "in the spring," or "next semester" instead of next year. That's how I've heard people in the U.S. say it (but I never really took note of the specific in-game location for B&R). I recently replayed chapter 5 and Sage herself says that she is a senior during her guitar lesson in the grass with MC. I don't have a screenshot of it though.
It could be a difference in the cultural way of speaking because I know from my own experience that students here in the UK generally use "year" to mean both the school year and calendar year as in the phrase, "this is my final year so I'll be graduating next year". Perhaps the Swedes have a similar parlance to those in the UK, hence why DPC wrote it that way.
 
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Yeah, Sage probably should have said, "in the spring," or "next semester" instead of next year. That's how I've heard people in the U.S. say it (but I never really took note of the specific in-game location for B&R). I recently replayed chapter 5 and Sage herself says that she is a senior during her guitar lesson in the grass with MC. I don't have a screenshot of it though.
I'm starting to think my brain is intentionally blocking information it doesn't want to see; the episode ending guitar lesson is literally my favorite scene in the entire game and I've never noticed that line. :FacePalm:
In this context, "year" can have a double meaning as it can refer to both the academic year and calendar year. Oftentimes people will use it to mean the same thing, so if someone were to say something along the lines of, "this is my final year so I'll be graduating next year", then they're using that double meaning. Sage doesn't say the first part, but it always felt clear to me that when she said she was, "graduating next year", that she meant the next calendar year and that this was her final year because this how I've known people to speak about this kind of thing.
Yeah, like I said, I've never considered it could mean the other thing because we don't use it that way in the context of college/university, unless it's spelled out like your "this is my final year so I'll be graduating next year" example to avoid confusion. Now I'm really hoping there won't be any large time jumps and the story wraps up before the "what will happen next year?" question comes up and becomes another obstacle. I'll just be here, neck-deep in denial and happy.:whistle:
 
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It could be a difference in the cultural way of speaking because I know from my own experience that students here in the UK generally use "year" to mean both the school year and calendar year as in the phrase, "this is my final year so I'll be graduating next year". Perhaps the Swedes have a similar parlance to those in the UK, hence why DPC wrote it that way.
also in Italy, and I must say that sometimes it creates misunderstandings
 
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Yeah, like I said, I've never considered it could mean the other thing because we don't use it that way in the context of college/university, unless it's spelled out like your "this is my final year so I'll be graduating next year" example to avoid confusion. Now I'm really hoping there won't be any large time jumps and the story wraps up before the "what will happen next year?" question comes up and becomes another obstacle. I'll just be here, neck-deep in denial and happy.:whistle:
For me, that's how people I've known have talked and to give another example, if I were to speak to someone who was a student now and they said to me, "I graduate next year", and I said to them, "so that means you're in your last year?", they'd surely say "yes" because that's how people tend to talk here.

also in Italy, and I must say that sometimes it creates misunderstandings
Must be a European thing then and DPC being Swedish would explain why it's written that way.
 
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