VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

On this, I think I'm in partial agreement with Holy Bacchus : if DPC is worried about finding ways to shoehorn in lewd scenes for all the girls then he should stop writing the story in such a way that forces us to choose between the girls! Don't put in some half-assed (if lovingly rendered) dream sequence for us to fap to.

Personally, I like the branching paths. It adds exactly the sort of consequences to the relationships that I feel is sorely lacking from simple harem games like, say, WVM. Yes, I worry that DPC hasn't built up the trust that's required to really pull that off, but that's a risk I am prepared to take.

But in that case, DPC should stick to his guns and just admit that sometimes there won't be super-hot lewd scenes for everyone. We'll get over it (eventually, when the next episode comes out).

Affinity system showing its flaws once again as does dividing up characters on certain paths, like not being able to do anything with Jade and Cathy by staying with M&J.

So much of this game is now becoming an exercise in trying to understand why, from a character perspective, the MC wouldn't do certain things with certain characters or why they wouldn't do anything with him. It seems as though, in an effort to create replayability, the locking of certain events to different paths and affinities is creating inconsistency issues with how the MC is and what they can do because, as has been discussed many times, a player can do everything with M&J and can have just about all their RP points, yet they get rejected just because they're DIK afffinity. Well, in this episode we saw that we can also be rejected by Quinn even if we've done almost everything with her just because a player doesn't have DIK affinity and is with M&J.

Aside from the gaming logic of replayability factor, it doesn't make sense in either case to be so cut off because if you take out the hamstringing affinity system, the MC has done enough in both cases to surely be accepted in these moments. Without locking content to certain affinities and relationship paths, there would be still be a of replay options with the different routes you can take of focusing on particular LIs and all the variations therein.

 

[Arigon]

Guys, Ladies, Non Binary,
I think that a statement that several have quoted and then tried to defend is the “whoring around” statement.

Just to clarify for those of you thinking you can be a DIK, fuck all the girls, and somehow come out ok by choosing your love interest, due to the way this author writes, you bet your ass you CAN’T. He will punish you. It doesn’t matter if you’re in an open relationship, in no relationship, adulterous relationship, or whatever. It doesn’t matter what other AVN characters get or got away with.
This author “Dr.PinkCake” makes your decisions affect the outcome.

An earlier work by the same author, you could go out for a fun time at a club with your best buddy, if you messed around with one or the other or both of the two girls, and then did nothing else but date one of the main love interests(or in this case you could date two as they were best friends). Not only did one of them die needlessly, but you didn’t end up with the girl left alive. Bear in mind you were not dating said girl at the time, and might not have even met her yet, depending on which one you picked. But you were FUCKED. At best you had a chance for making it up to her in the epilogue, but you didn’t have the girl, even if everything else went right.

BaDIK is made by the same author, he is limiting paths to girls, you bet your ass you can be a DIK and have fun with some of them, but in the end??? Probably FUCKED. Especially Bella.

I’m not preaching morality. Fuck I hope you all are in fap heaven. However at the end of the game, based on writing stupidity into the game, DPC is all but assuring you are going to pay a price for not playing “his” way.

This is one reason I have been so vocal in criticism of the “Great DPC”. Fanboys, he is great at renders. He does great wingmen dialogue.He has great music to go with all of this. But story? Writing? Logical outcomes? He is below so many other more talented authors.
I expect fanboys to frag me on this, but two years from now just remember what has been said. Now by all means, fap and enjoy!
Peace

 

[Dark F'ing Knig ht]

How to disable mini games in the middle of the game?

 

[Arigon]

What makes you think of Quinn as a side chick?

Unless she is elevated to love interest status, she is a plot device, side chick, and a service provider

 

[chronomate]

I really disliked the choice of picking between Sage and Jill for their scenes. I guess its to put a wrench for those who are going after both of them? And Sage as adorable as she is being with a cold was just so she was out of the picture for some backstabbings to become afoot for later episodes.

It's particularly annoying to me because Jill is the most "Chick" path LI and Sage is the most "Dik" path LI, but this choice doesn't synch up with the morality implied by those paths. This choice says that the "good guy" thing to do is to ditch your sick friend after promising to take care of her so you can go on a date? And the "dick" thing to do is to look after your sick friend like you promised, turning down the date offer by telling them you have plans, even though it's completely true? That's some seriously backwards morality, IMO.

 

[Sculp]

In the end of episode 6 check burge he has letter of resignation in his table. I dont know why I couldn't upload screenshoot that I took but check that out

 

[Holy Bacchus]

An earlier work by the same author, you could go out for a fun time at a club with your best buddy, if you messed around with one or the other or both of the two girls, and then did nothing else but date one of the main love interests(or in this case you could date two as they were best friends). Not only did one of them die needlessly, but you didn’t end up with the girl left alive. Bear in mind you were not dating said girl at the time, and might not have even met her yet, depending on which one you picked. But you were FUCKED. At best you had a chance for making it up to her in the epilogue, but you didn’t have the girl, even if everything else went right.

Just a quick note; it wasn't the after club sex with those 2 that gets the MC in trouble, it was having sex with them at the cabin. You can do that after club, but sex at the cabin with them, sex with Rena, and/or sex with Ana will get you in trouble. So, on the whole, yes, you do have to be faithful to Megan and Melissa, but only from the cabin onwards.

But, yes, even in a college setting it would seem DPC can't just let the MC get away with dating multiple women at the same time. Philly does this kind of thing really well and I only wish BaDIK were more like Depraved Awakening or CoBD, in that sense.

 

[IkarusWestwood]

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[Arigon]

It's particularly annoying to me because Jill is the most "Chick" path LI and Sage is the most "Dik" path LI, but this choice doesn't synch up with the morality implied by those paths. This choice says that the "good guy" thing to do is to ditch your sick friend after promising to take care of her so you can go on a date? And the "dick" thing to do is to look after your sick friend like you promised, turning down the date offer by telling them you have plans, even though it's completely true? That's some seriously backwards morality, IMO.

Now the lights are coming on at the poor writing skill of DPC!!!very good!
Bravo!

 

[Arigon]

Just a quick note; it wasn't the after club sex with those 2 that gets the MC in trouble, it was having sex with them at the cabin. You can do that after club, but sex at the cabin with them, sex with Rena, and/or sex with Ana will get you in trouble. So, on the whole, yes, you do have to be faithful to Megan and Melissa, but only from the cabin onwards.

But, yes, even in a college setting it would seem DPC can't just let the MC get away with dating multiple women at the same time. Philly does this kind of thing really well and I only wish BaDIK were more like Depraved Awakening or CoBD, in that sense.

Philly is better all around, and yeah I think you are right, but you have your first mandatory sex with Megan in the lake also, so the line is quite blurred. You would have already had a chance with Melissa much earlier. Still that story stunk and this story looks pretty iffy on avoiding stink. Especially now.

 

[Malicre]

You can be on the CHICK or DIK path and still make your own decisions, My MC is a massive DIK and has never slept with quinn or did any of the bathroom stuff, he also didn't sleep with any of the stripper girls. You're not being forced to like / sleep with a girl regardless of the path you take, its all up to you. With that being said i don't think anyones playthrough is the exact same as someone elses.

I don't play the game going down the DIK or CHICK path, i pick whatever option i would do in real life regardless of if it gives me points in one thing or the other.

 

[Kellermann]

It's particularly annoying to me because Jill is the most "Chick" path LI and Sage is the most "Dik" path LI, but this choice doesn't synch up with the morality implied by those paths. This choice says that the "good guy" thing to do is to ditch your sick friend after promising to take care of her so you can go on a date? And the "dick" thing to do is to look after your sick friend like you promised, turning down the date offer by telling them you have plans, even though it's completely true? That's some seriously backwards morality, IMO.

Aside from my one and only Jill-centric Chick playthrough, I'm choosing Sage every time. That Jill/Sage fork in the road is the dumbest choice I've seen to date for exactly the reasons you stated.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Now the lights are coming on at the poor writing skill of DPC!!!very good!
Bravo!

Just gonna say, don't hate me, but I wouldn't brand it all as "poor writing skill". I still say they've done a good job at creating compelling characters and stories for those characters that really grab you by the heartstrings, so in that sense I'd say their writing skill is good. Where I feel like they're not doing so good is plot development because they rely too heavily on overly dramatic plotlines and sucker punch moments rather than building suspense in more gradual and subtle ways. As I've been saying quite a bit, they go for the jugular rather inflict death by a thousand cuts, really build the tension before tearing it all down.

And I'd also say that the affinity system, whilst an interesting idea, creates so many contradictions with MC and player behaviour by locking off certain content even if your MC has done pretty much everything right in terms of their interactions with certain characters.

 

[ant007]

An earlier work by the same author, you could go out for a fun time at a club with your best buddy, if you messed around with one or the other or both of the two girls, and then did nothing else but date one of the main love interests(or in this case you could date two as they were best friends). Not only did one of them die needlessly, but you didn’t end up with the girl left alive. Bear in mind you were not dating said girl at the time, and might not have even met her yet, depending on which one you picked. But you were FUCKED. At best you had a chance for making it up to her in the epilogue, but you didn’t have the girl, even if everything else went right.

This part is not true. I ended up in AL with Melissa even though I was having fun with those two girls at the club, as well as under the table in the cabin . Only from the moment you become exclusive in your relationship, only then you can't fuck everything, but that is normal.
I’m not thrilled either that I can’t have Maya because I’m a DIK, but I’ve gone over that, moved on to another LI and now I’m enjoying the game.

 

[halil123]

Top 3 annoying characters of BaDIK:

1 - Tybalt
2 - Jade's son
3 - President of alphu nu omega

 

[Muabdi]

Beautifull

 

[Malicre]

Top 3 annoying characters of BaDIK:

1 - Tybalt
2 - Jade's son
3 - President of alphu nu omega

That's ok, Tybalt gonna be calling me dad soon anyways.

 

[MurkyMain]

Please help me, has anyone found a solution for the mac problem? running it through permission fixer for mac didnt work, help :C

 

[godkingxerxes]

Guys, Ladies, Non Binary,
I think that a statement that several have quoted and then tried to defend is the “whoring around” statement.

Just to clarify for those of you thinking you can be a DIK, fuck all the girls, and somehow come out ok by choosing your love interest, due to the way this author writes, you bet your ass you CAN’T. He will punish you. It doesn’t matter if you’re in an open relationship, in no relationship, adulterous relationship, or whatever. It doesn’t matter what other AVN characters get or got away with.
This author “Dr.PinkCake” makes your decisions affect the outcome.

An earlier work by the same author, you could go out for a fun time at a club with your best buddy, if you messed around with one or the other or both of the two girls, and then did nothing else but date one of the main love interests(or in this case you could date two as they were best friends). Not only did one of them die needlessly, but you didn’t end up with the girl left alive. Bear in mind you were not dating said girl at the time, and might not have even met her yet, depending on which one you picked. But you were FUCKED. At best you had a chance for making it up to her in the epilogue, but you didn’t have the girl, even if everything else went right.

BaDIK is made by the same author, he is limiting paths to girls, you bet your ass you can be a DIK and have fun with some of them, but in the end??? Probably FUCKED. Especially Bella.

I’m not preaching morality. Fuck I hope you all are in fap heaven. However at the end of the game, based on writing stupidity into the game, DPC is all but assuring you are going to pay a price for not playing “his” way.

This is one reason I have been so vocal in criticism of the “Great DPC”. Fanboys, he is great at renders. He does great wingmen dialogue.He has great music to go with all of this. But story? Writing? Logical outcomes? He is below so many other more talented authors.
I expect fanboys to frag me on this, but two years from now just remember what has been said. Now by all means, fap and enjoy!
Peace

Rena is a main love interest and you can sleep around plenty and still end up with her at the end of the game. Yes Melissa or Megan die but shit happens, you can still have a proper ending in Acting Lessons. Rena was my main choice from the moment I saw her so I guess that's why I am not as sour as some on that game.

We're half way through this game, why are obsessed with a potential ending anyways. If you want Bella then keep your dick in your pants.

Choices have consequences and while the affinity system makes some arbitrary decisions automatically for you, it's refreshing to me after struggling to get through the lovey dovey WVM.

 

[always86]

Having now run through my DIK, CHICK and Neutral play through I have some more thoughts;

Broadly I like the update. I think it could have been better, but some stuff is really going to depend on where the story winds up.

Ppositives;


Art - though I think the Cum shots are getting to big and some of the animations could have been better
Story - I don’t necessarily like where it’s going, but it’s reasonably well told.
Characters - I think the characters continue to be well written
Mechanics - I enjoyed the mansion fixing mini game


Negatives;


D&G - having now gone through it a few times, I think it was a mistake. I don’t think it’s badly done, and it’s kind of fun, especially the Sally stuff, but the energy for it, including the mini lewd scenes which I’ll probably never look at again seems wasted. I’d have liked either a bit more real world consequences to the choices in the game. (Charm Jill = Jill +1 Maya -1
Mona - She is running away at the end, it sucks, I wish MC could help her.
Jill - Tybalt blackmail sucks.
Bella - Silly that she would stay over. Also beginning to think unless you are going for her, you should leave her alone.


The last episode seemed to spend a bunch of energy saying “hey, main LI’s I’m dating other people.” This episode seems to say ”Hey, I feel guilty about dating other people and need to choose.” For a game that is only 6/12 (or even 6/18) through it is early to start to guilt the MC out. Will also bug me if it is a disaster to have fucked anyone but your main LI come the end. It seems like certainly for Bella, and possibly for Jill he is gearing up for something explosive depending on choices.

I also think this episode added to evidence for Aunty Jill .


Lynette was wealthy
Lynette died young
Jill’s sister died
We still haven’t fucked Jill (Technically no incest yet)
Jill’s sister liked to write
Lynette was on her 7th diary.
DPC clearly doesn’t mind doing Us dirty

This is still coincidental, and I’m not convinced, but just want to keep track of the hints if it does happen


Who is the traitor? Theories;


Vinny - bugged the laptop, no real evidence for this. Perhaps helped by Nick. Not clear why he would betray them.

Nick - In the library when the laptop is missing, room wasn’t vandalised. Again nothing concrete.

Rusty - wouldn’t make sense, but the phone that has been gifted to MC and Jam Jam is interesting.

Tommy - has access to the password. Has a temper. Cathy picture because he was pissed about Josy. Jade vid because he was pissed about MCs speech.

Leon - Hasn’t bothered to clean his room. Doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything.

Jamie - Perhaps not him but Dany. The feminists hate the DIKs.

Jacob - Seems unlikely. No reason, he’s room got trashed (plus from a meta stand point he now has the art, so doubtful he is a traitor)

Derek + MC - no access

In a way they could all be innocent and something else could be going on.