VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[shazba]

Whilst some people might want that and they're obviously not going to get that, it's the rejection by Maya and Josy that is the main issue. The MC essentially says, "I want to be in a sexual/romantic relationship with both of you", and they shoot him down flat. It can be hard for people to wrap their heads around why he's still so friendly with them like he didn't just get dumped by 2 girls at the same time. Even if he doesn't dislike them for it, it should still be hard/awkward for someone to be around someone that just rejected them, but that isn't reflected at all in the game and the MC is seemingly acting like that didn't happen. In this sense, it's not maturity that he's showing, it's almost like he shows a sociopathic level of not caring, which is weird.

DPC didn't have to create a branching path where the MC's no longer involved in anything they do if he's rejected by them, and that's not the point being made. It's simply that the rejection path creates this odd situation, because of the forced interactions, where they're all acting like this didn't happen. If it had been the MC automatically choosing friendship on the DIK path then it would work better because he rejects them, which is something you'd imagine a DIK MC to do, but it also makes the continued friendship more understandable since he doesn't feel jilted anymore as he made the choice to be their friend.

I guess it depends how you played the game. If you focused only on Maya and Josy to the exclusion of all other characters, and then they rejected you, that'd suck balls and if I was the mc I'd probably be swinging from the rafters... (just kidding, if anyone reads this and is thinking of committing suicide, please call your local suicide hotline or some shit - and maybe don't be playing DPC games, I don't think they help in that department). But seriously, if you only focused on Maya and Josy, and they still rejected you, what the fuck, like you must suck because how could you not be a CHICK by that point.

But alternatively, if you played the ultimate DIK game, like this scenario I posted earlier (which I am shameless plugging cause it took me an hour to write or something like):

Here's a little recap of MC's life over the couple of weeks of starting college through to the end of Hell Week. I've gone all geekazoid over this, color coding the Maya interactions (green), the Josy interactions (red) and sex-with-everyone-else (purple) to visually show the weighting of what MC's been up to. I've included most M&J interactions while just including all the other sexual interactions. Its a bit of a read but it's enlightening:

• He's working at a store and has a crush on Josy
• He finally gets the courage to talk to her and things take off
• Goes on a date with Josy, he kisses her, she reciprocates and she feels guilty and tells him she's in another relationship
• When he leaves she indicates she still likes him, he still likes her too
• First day at college he meets Maya, she's friendly and offers him a hand after he falls
• She finds out he's missed orientation and she offers to show him around
• She opens up a bit and says she wants to join the HOTs to get free tuition and he jokes about it with her
• He meets Maya in class again and after class he asks if she wants to come along with him to the Tri-Betas, she tells him she has a boyfriend
• Later that evening he goes to call Josy but she calls first, it's clear they both have crushes on each other but when they start talking about relationships she realizes she's being silly but before she hangs up the MC organizes to meet her on the weekend. She's not sure what she's doing but is looking forward to seeing him.
• Next day in class Maya tries to get mc to join up to gender studies and the two of them go out to lunch. When the conversation comes round to her parents the mc see that it gets her a little serious. Then they talk about honesty and stuff and MC covers the tab.
• Then all the dorm room drama unfolds. During this time he gets a double handjob from Quinn and Camila and a blow job from Camila
• Later he meets up with Derek and Maya and Maya is convinced by Derek to let mc stay with her for the night.
• They chat a bit and then MC finds out she's got some issues with people giving up on her.
• Then they get changed for bed, she's a bit bashful and then the mc strips right in front of her, shocking her.
• He wakes up with a boner, she teases him and then she expects he won't be returning to the room for another night as per the original deal (one night).
• Later that day Maya finds out MC hasn't left yet, she's surprised when he suggests staying longer but she agrees. When he suggests he stay permanently, she declines the idea but she gives her number to him (in case he gets locked out).
• That night she invites him to watch a movie with her and she is literally all over him - this is definitely her leading him on (intentionally or not). He reciprocates a bit, nothing too aggressive, and she tells him the boyfriend deal was just to stop guys from being attracted to her and says it's probably best if the MC isn't attracted to her too. He says he is. Then they chat about the movie and go to (separate) beds.
• They meet up next in gender class and nothing happens.
• She tells him she'll be back late so don't wait up
• MC gets a blow job from Riona and has anal sex with Camila
• MC waits up for Maya, even tries to call her, then eventually goes to sleep
• Then we get the grinding scene which confuses mc, he thinks it's means something but we now know it’s a HOTs prank
• Then we have the CUMpetition where mc fucks Quinn, she thinks she's shocking him but he teases her and she likes it, then Derek loses...
• During the evening mc flirts with Mel and Sarah and lets them know he fucked Quinn
• Later Maya comes to the MC sheepishly, feeling bad for the grinding, mc offers to help her out, he likes her and he wants to talk about whether what took place earlier meant anything to her
• Later back at the dorm the MC talks to Maya about the grinding, she's hesitant to talk about it and feels bad about what she did and angry that she was the only one that was asked to do it that way.
• The MC vaguely warns her about Quinn’s prostitution ring (i.e. he tells her fuck all, he should have told her outright but that's another discussion)
• She asks that the mc forgive her, and the mc agrees that she was being used so he doesn't think it was her fault (plus seriously who would be complaining about a cute roommate grinding you during sorority pledging...)
• When pressed she tells the mc she still has some things she doesn't want to tell him about (we know now it was about being a lesbian etc. and it was kinda silly that she couldn't tell him)
• Then she blows up about her family being disappointed in her
• After some consoling she initiates a makeout session. She feels conflicted afterwards but definitely drawn to the mc. She tells the mc that she shouldn't be using him like this, he says he wants it. They go to separate beds.
• He meets Maya in class again and he and Derek laugh about raiding the the preps mansion and toothbrushes
• That night he chats with Maya before going off to the DIKs party
• He does some pledge stuff which involves a shot off Sarah’s cooch and then kisses her and then gets a foot job from Sarah, Mel and Riona, then he fucks the shit out of Sarah
• The next morning he tells Maya he's headed home for a date, then teases her about her being jealous. She obviously feels something as she tries to convince him and herself she isn't jealous.
• He then goes on his date with Josy, they have a nice night and then she gets upset about long distant relationships and all that. She tells him he's not just with her because she's lonely, she obviously likes him. He goes to leave, she says stay, they sleep in the same bed and he makes a move on her resulting in a blowjob and sex and then he does a runner.
• When he returns, Maya hugs him, and immediately asks about his date and then asks about the girl, saying she feels a bit awkward. Maya and MC only kissed once before this, but she obviously has feelings for him. Then they talk about how love hurts and shit like that. MC feels they are slowly opening up to each other
• MC then gets some Chad-cheating evidence for Sage and makes out with her and plans to teach her guitar.
• MC then flirts with Jill and Bella doing Yoga
• MC then goes out on a "date" with Bella and ends up making out with her at her home.
• MC chats some more with Maya in class
• MC goes to Sage and starts teaching her guitar, starts flirting, they make out and then she gives him a boob job
• Later MC flirts with Jade after class
• Next time Maya sees the MC he has been hit by Chad, she's concerned for him. Maya also confides that she has to do a lot of sexual things to get into the HOTs
• MC offers to help her
• Maya confides that she's a lesbian and also says it's strange that she has feeling for mc
• Later Maya and mc kiss on the picnic rug
• Later MC flirts with Jade at the lunch table
• In class Maya discusses Derek's attempts towards women
• Later mc gets a hand job and blow job from Sage
• Then MC goes to a strip joint where he feels up strippers including fingering Rose and Lily and gets a blow job from Envy and ass fucks her.
• Next day he talks to Josy who says she's coming to college and wants to stay with him, he tells her he's staying in a dorm with a girl, he also says that while he cares for Josy, it bugs him that she has a boyfriend. She intends to tell him everything once she sees him
• MC then meets up with Jill in the library and they flirt a bit and she kisses him after the DnG game
• MC then fucks Mona and Camila in toilet stall
• MC then flirts more with Jade and gets a foot job and a hand job during class
• MC then breaks into prep mansion, romances Jill and asks her on a date
• MC then goes straight to the library and makes out with Bella
• MC then visits Quinn and has all kinds of sex with Quinn and Riona
• Then Josey rocks up and MC bales to Sage's like a little bitch and the Internet goes insane because these girls are just monsters - how dare they do this to the MC!!!
• Then at the HOTs’ mc has all kinds of shower sex with Mel with Sarah enjoying the show
• Then MC grinds Quinn and has her wank him off into her cunt.
• Then he makes out with Sage in the pool and gets a hand job followed by a boob job.
• Then he hangs out naked in the sauna with Sara, Mel, Ashley and Lily where Lily grinds naked on him and he eats Ashley out
• Then he spies on Heather masturbating
• Then he starts sexting to Cathy, Nicole and a bunch of other girls
• Then he hangs out with Sage at the movie night holding hands(!) fingering her and then total mind blowing sex
• Then Maya comes to talk to MC in genre studies and he gets all weird.
• Then he goes on a date with Jill and makes out with her at the end
• Then he fucks Quinn on the roof.
• Then he confronts Maya and Josey and they say they just want to be friends with him (probably because they are fucking scared of all the venereal diseases he’s carrying). The Internet again goes berserk and wants these girls (particularly Maya, you know because of dishonesty), to be lynched!
• Then he goes off and Fucks Jade and records it
• The he meets up with Riona at the prep's mansion and fucks her left, right and center
• Then he joins Mel, Sarah and Heather in the sauna, gets a blow job from Sarah and Mel and cums on Heather's tits (haha! Sorry...)
• Then he meets up with Maya and Josey, drinks some champagne and chats. Then when Josy asks for some help, he says, “sorry I’m busy” (spiteful cunt!)
• Then he makes out with Camila, gets a blow job and then ass fucks her
• Then he flirts with Jade at the party, grabbing her ass
• Then he makes out with Lily, gets a blow job and wanks himself off into her cunt
• Then he fucks Sage
• Later that night he gets a blow job from Cathy
• Back at Bella's hose he makes out with Jill

Now after reading all that, is anyone still of the opinion that if they were the mc, they would get all angry at Maya and Josy because they didn't want to continue a romantic relationship with him and preferred to be just friends? The motherfucker has bitches lined up from one side of campus to the other, is he really gonna be bummed out because 2, out of 15 babes he was banging didn't want to continue getting jiggy with him?

Then you wouldn't be so choked up when these two girly girls weren't all that in to you when you had all this other tail lined up.

 

[felicemastronzo]

But alternatively, if you played the ultimate DIK game, like this scenario I posted earlier (which I am shameless plugging cause it took me an hour to write or something like):



Then you wouldn't be so choked up when these two girly girls weren't all that in to you when you had all this other tail lined up.

if you play that way in my opinion when Maya and Josy reject you, you are still laughing thinking about the threesome with Riona and Quinn and you're sorry you can't tell them

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I guess it depends how you played the game. If you focused only on Maya and Josy to the exclusion of all other characters, and then they rejected you, that'd suck balls and if I was the mc I'd probably be swinging from the rafters... (just kidding, if anyone reads this and is thinking of committing suicide, please call your local suicide hotline or some shit - and maybe don't be playing DPC games, I don't think they help in that department). But seriously, if you only focused on Maya and Josy, and they still rejected you, what the fuck, like you must suck because how could you not be a CHICK by that point.

But alternatively, if you played the ultimate DIK game, like this scenario I posted earlier (which I am shameless plugging cause it took me an hour to write or something like):



Then you wouldn't be so choked up when these two girly girls weren't all that in to you when you had all this other tail lined up.

Regardless of how the player might feel, I think the point still stands that a person who gets rejected by 2 girls at the same time isn't going to take that lightly and still be as warm and friendly with those 2 girls so soon as though nothing happened. Yet here we have that scenario with the MC which is why there shouldn't be a rejection by M&J because it isn't making much sense. Having the MC choose friendship automatically makes more sense.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

if you play that way in my opinion when Maya and Josy reject you, you are still laughing thinking about the threesome with Riona and Quinn and you're sorry you can't tell them

MC: "Just friends? Oh, ok, I guess hoping for a third threesome in two days was a bit too much"

 

[felicemastronzo]

MC: "Just friends? Oh, ok, I guess hoping for a third threesome in two days was a bit too much"

and then running to punish Jade !!!

 

[Cokebaths]

They were.

Rookie mistake smh

 

[braun323]

I believe there's a random element to it, so basically you need to move your mouse along every single bookshelf until you see a flash. I did it in small circular motions fairly slowly. Sorry I cant be much help on this one. There probably are few typical locations to check but this part of the game is too mundane for me to experiment with.

I see thats very annoying

 

[shazba]

and then running to punish Jade !!!

Yeah, after the "rejection" scene, mc:

• Then he goes off and Fucks Jade and records it
• The he meets up with Riona at the prep's mansion and fucks her left, right and center
• Then he joins Mel, Sarah and Heather in the spa, gets a blow job from Sarah and Mel and cums on Heather's tits (haha! Sorry...)
• Then he makes out with Camila, gets a blow job and then ass fucks her
• Then he makes out with Lily, gets a blow job and wanks himself off into her cunt
• Then he fucks Sage
• Later that night he gets a blow job from Cathy
• Back at Bella's hose he makes out with Jill

The he looks at Maya and Josy and hates them with a deep passion...

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah, after the "rejection" scene, mc:

• Then he goes off and Fucks Jade and records it
• The he meets up with Riona at the prep's mansion and fucks her left, right and center
• Then he joins Mel, Sarah and Heather in the spa, gets a blow job from Sarah and Mel and cums on Heather's tits (haha! Sorry...)
• Then he makes out with Camila, gets a blow job and then ass fucks her
• Then he makes out with Lily, gets a blow job and wanks himself off into her cunt
• Then he fucks Sage
• Later that night he gets a blow job from Cathy
• Back at Bella's hose he makes out with Jill

The he looks at Maya and Josy and hates them with a deep passion...

you forgot that apart from Riona who has to give at least a $ the rest is potentially free
better than paying the tuition to be the bio dildo


I would say that even in this case the plot is fine, and the scene of the fourth chapter is perfectly integrated in the other choices

 

[Cokebaths]

Yeah, after the "rejection" scene, mc:

• Then he goes off and Fucks Jade and records it
• The he meets up with Riona at the prep's mansion and fucks her left, right and center
• Then he joins Mel, Sarah and Heather in the spa, gets a blow job from Sarah and Mel and cums on Heather's tits (haha! Sorry...)
• Then he makes out with Camila, gets a blow job and then ass fucks her
• Then he makes out with Lily, gets a blow job and wanks himself off into her cunt
• Then he fucks Sage
• Later that night he gets a blow job from Cathy
• Back at Bella's hose he makes out with Jill

The he looks at Maya and Josy and hates them with a deep passion...

While, I don't think the rejection path should be drama galore, I understand what people are saying. I mean, sure there's a lot of tail he's been chasing and he should be able to move on quickly considering they haven't known each other that long, but it is weird how there hasn't been not even one passing thought from the MC how awkward that situation would be with everyone just pretending nothing happened. I've got saves from both paths and there really isn't that much of a difference in how they interact with each other sans the passing intimate touches on the Chick path

 

[moskyx]

Anyone of you know how could I translate the telephone text? For example Bios, Tasks, ecc... I cannot find the right files

This game is a nightmare for translators

Bios: you have the profile text that appears next to each character's pic in game/header.rpy Then the lines that appear in the textbox and show info about game events and choices are distributed within the scripts, after those significant choices are made. You'll see a text variable called $ bios_history_josy or whatever character's name

Tasks: in the freeroam scripts (game/scripts/freeroam) sometimes you'll see a text variable called $ current_task and sometimes (especially in Ep6) a text variable called $ task_list which actually sets the value for $ current_task . Then in game/scripts/phone/phone_menu.rpy look for the label screen app_tasks: and you'll see that variable [current_task] is called. If you're working with translation files for translating those strings of text, change that for [current_task!t]

Text messages, clucks and swyper conversations are easier to find (scripts/phone/...).

Unfortunately, some of them (like swyper profiles, or vault instructions) are just pictures so if you want to get them translated you'll need to recreate that pic in your own language

 

[felicemastronzo]

While, I don't think the rejection path should be drama galore, I understand what people are saying. I mean, sure there's a lot of tail he's been chasing and he should be able to move on quickly considering they haven't known each other that long, but it is weird how there hasn't been not even one passing thought from the MC how awkward that situation would be with everyone just pretending nothing happened. I've got saves from both paths and there really isn't that much of a difference in how they interact with each other sans the passing intimate touches on the Chick path

the fact that MC can have sex with half of the BR doesn't change the question, because even if he doesn't, it doesn't change anything

the scene remains terrible and without any empathy, as if Mc actually didn't give a damn about the two girls (and vice versa) and could try it like a script

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

I see thats very annoying

Actually you don't have to scan every shelf. When you first enter each aisle you'll see a brief flash indicating a book goes there. Just look for that when you enter each aisle.

 

[shazba]

Actually you don't have to scan every shelf. When you first enter each aisle you'll see a brief flash indicating a book goes there. Just look for that when you enter each aisle.

I never noticed that, cool.

 

[Gladheim]

the fact that MC can have sex with half of the BR doesn't change the question, because even if he doesn't, it doesn't change anything

the scene remains terrible and without any empathy, as if Mc actually didn't give a damn about the two girls (and vice versa) and could try it like a script
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We have to learn to erase that scene from our minds, it is as if nothing of what happens there had existed, believe me it will be much better for you and the story that comes after that is also better understood. It's the only part of the game that doesn't make sense to ME because of how Josy and Maya are shown there, which has nothing to do with what they were like before and after.

 

[felicemastronzo]

We have to learn to erase that scene from our minds, it is as if nothing of what happens there had existed, believe me it will be much better for you and the story that comes after that is also better understood. It's the only part of the game that doesn't make sense to ME because of how Josy and Maya are shown there, which has nothing to do with what they were like before and after.

this epilogue doesn't upset me.

at that point if I'm interested in Maya and Josy I'll have the right affinity, otherwise little changes.
but for me it is a sign of how DPC has not given it much thought.
then in the next chapter he makes it disappear in the memories and the girls follow MC anyway.

the fact that the two girls kiss makes perfect sense, it is simply really selfish towards MC, but it doesn't make sense, it happens to make selfish gestures transported by emotions

it remains for me a wrong scene (the whole scene, not the epilogue) that does not satisfy any player and angers half of them

 

[shazba]

the fact that MC can have sex with half of the BR doesn't change the question, because even if he doesn't, it doesn't change anything

the scene remains terrible and without any empathy, as if Mc actually didn't give a damn about the two girls (and vice versa) and could try it like a script
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I agree that if he only involves himself with Maya and Josy and they reject him, he would take it a very different way than what actually happens in the game. He already has spent a few days (?) avoiding them once he found out they were already in a relationship because he felt hurt, then when he puts his cards on the table and they actually reject him, he'd feel more hurt.

The way the scene plays out though, the MC sees it as closure. I agree that's not realistic, the heart (well the mind, but you know what I mean) just doesn't work like that. Getting dumped (which is effectively what that was, except it was being dumped by two girls simultaneously, which I have to admit has never happened to me but I imagine it'd be worse than being dumped by just one girl at a time) always leaves you feeling down, no one puts their heart on their sleeve, gets dump and goes, "oh well, glad that's sorted". They usually feel like shit for days.

But on the other side of that coin, if you spend all your effort only on Maya and Josy, you wouldn't get dumped. All you have to do for it to work out with the girls is have had sex with at least one of them (and you have to blatantly choose not to have sex with Josy to miss out, there's no conflict with that) and simply not be a DIK. You can even be NEUTRAL for it to work out.

You can contrive the game such that you try to make your character a DIK (not a CHICK nor NEUTRAL) while only following the Josy/Maya path, but that's a bit silly.

 

[Gladheim]

this epilogue doesn't upset me.

at that point if I'm interested in Maya and Josy I'll have the right affinity, otherwise little changes.
but for me it is a sign of how DPC has not given it much thought.
then in the next chapter he makes it disappear in the memories and the girls follow MC anyway.

it remains for me a wrong scene (the whole scene, not the epilogue) that does not satisfy any player and angers half of them

It does not make sense because as I said Josy and Maya are not like that before that nor are they now 2 chapters later. There DPC shows us a selfish Josy and Maya, who seem not to care about the MC or their feelings, who seem that everything they had lived with him until now has not existed or meant anything to them. But then you go through the episodes and you say: what the hell !!? Damn now they are more interested in the MC than among themselves (relationship path) and Josy clearly sees that she is still crazy about the MC and that she cannot forget him, it almost seems that she would be willing to leave Maya for the MC (friendship route) of Maya on that same route is not known since Maya is only focused on do her scavanger list and her father, she does not think about anything else.

 

[Gunizz]

So i check the moment someone posted the Cathy pic on Rooster. Nick, the main suspect was on the Library, looking something in the corner. He seems to look the armchair. He insists in look there. The only thing i could find suspicious is thoose red spots. Could it be blood? Is kind of wierd Bella and Mc didnt noticed.
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Thanks, I wrote in the last days that Nick was suspect also due to that scene, he's looking at something but I could not locate what is was. I looked at the objects on the ground but I think you guessed right, the chair seems to get his attention. And those could be blood stains. Good job! Is there any character that has been missing since that day?

The MC essentially says, "I want to be in a sexual/romantic relationship with both of you", and they shoot him down flat. It can be hard for people to wrap their heads around why he's still so friendly with them like he didn't just get dumped by 2 girls at the same time. Even if he doesn't dislike them for it, it should still be hard/awkward for someone to be around someone that just rejected them, but that isn't reflected at all in the game and the MC is seemingly acting like that didn't happen. In this sense, it's not maturity that he's showing, it's almost like he shows a sociopathic level of not caring, which is weird.

Regardless of how the player might feel, I think the point still stands that a person who gets rejected by 2 girls at the same time isn't going to take that lightly and still be as warm and friendly with those 2 girls so soon as though nothing happened.

I don't see any problem with a person acting friendly after being rejected (rejected != insulted). MC's not a 14 y.o., he's 19, it would be childish to act offended just because two girls aren't into a threesome relationship. Like IRL, you like someone, you make your move, it does not work, you go forward, yes you're hurt, but still friends as before. If someone doesn't want to be in a relationship with you it does not mean he/she hates you, so why should you not continue to be friend with them, if you were so "friend" to ask for more just a few hours before. You cannot pretend the others to share your same intimate feelings if they aren't, otherwise they lose your friendship. It does not make any sense.
So in my opinion the plot has no issues on this aspect.

 

[felicemastronzo]

It does not make sense because as I said Josy and Maya are not like that before that nor are they now 2 chapters later. There DPC shows us a selfish Josy and Maya, who seem not to care about the MC or their feelings, who seem that everything they had lived with him until now has not existed or meant anything to them. But then you go through the episodes and you say: what the hell !!? Damn now they are more interested in the MC than among themselves (relationship path) and Josy clearly sees that she is still crazy about the MC and that she cannot forget him, it almost seems that she would be willing to leave Maya for the MC (friendship route) of Maya on that same route is not known since Maya is only focused on do her scavanger list and her father, she does not think about anything else.

they have just made peace with each other and they have declared love, a kiss is there

they are selfish as in theory none of the main characters are, but what particular non-selfish gesture would they have made to say that this behavior is not like them?

what Josy tells MC next, after her fathet visit, is even more selfish.

she blame Maya and it certainly doesn't make MC happy.