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Holy Bacchus

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At that point Tybalt might as well have never blackmailed Jill in the first place. If it's that easy for the MC to humiliate Tybalt on his own date then Jill has effectively called his bluff. Which means no more excuses not to openly date, and no need to sneak around so Tybalt doesn't find out. If he doesn't retaliate at that point, he's obviously never going to.

That's what I meant by dealing with the blackmail threat. I know a lot of people think the threat is unrealistic, but either way Jill believed it in Episode 6. She shouldn't throw caution to the wind now just to make a funny scene. It should only happen if the MC does something to nullify Tybalt's threat. That would be A-okay with me, of course, but I don't see it happening. The blackmail threat is too good an excuse to put the breaks on what would otherwise be a very fast courtship with Jill.
I didn't say anything about a "date", I said that it could be Bella and Jill who are playing tennis and Tybalt would show up uninvited, similar to the way he does when they're doing yoga in Ep 2 or the DnG game in Ep 6, and then try to impose himself upon Jill and Bella. If Bella were then to be the one who calls the MC, that doesn't negate or diminish his blackmailing of Jill because she hasn't breached the terms if someone else invites the MC. Tybalt can kick up as much fuss as he wants, but if Bella were to then threaten to leave that would upset Jill and Tybalt does seem to recognise that he needs to be on Bella's good side if he has a chance with Jill so he'd easily relent and allow him to play with them.

In this way, Bella becomes like a loophole in Tybalt's blackmail ploy because he seems to realise that Bella is an important influence on Jill's life and is trying to befriend her so this will help him with Jill, so if Bella invites the MC to things where Jill is also present, he'll have to capitulate to him being there since it's Bella's decision and he needs her on-side in his pursuit of Jill.
 

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Let me preface this by saying I love this game - my favorite on the site by far.

That said, DPC is going to have to release episodes more frequently than every 4-5 months. At this pace, the game won't be wrapped up for another 3-4 years. I'm not sure you can hold an audience's attention for that long. I know that the quality is most important, and he shouldn't compromise that, but we're talking 2024 or 2025 for a completion.
Game of thrones went for 8 years and only increased its fan base each year inspite of going downhill at season 6 onwards. I think this game will manage. :)
 
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Malicre

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So, it's like this.... just don't fucking do that.... Play anything else... like literally anything.....
I give credit when it is due, and DPC is certainly near the top of the genre with his renders. By his own admission, and a lot of folk's criticisms we know that writing is NOT his strong suite... in AL it is particularly bad.
AL isn't bad if you go the Leah route. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I just....I...well....I have to say.....you see the thing is.....*deep sigh*

It's like the Charge of the Light Brigade. I'm watching a man mount up and I can do nothing to stop him or save him.

R.I.P. *Salute*
God Save the Queen.
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Hmm... Some events in the game are that difficult to accept, is it that, right? Then I don't know anymore. I am quite sensitive, get fond of likable characters and hate when they suffer... or die. Surely it is for the best if I pass on this one then.

By the way, in BaDIK, Dr. Pincake warns, through Jill's message at the start of the game for new players very much in this same sense, I get. However I have found the first six episodes fun and lighthearted enough so far. (I have laughed out loud quite a few times playing this). Truth be said, I have played as a massive dik right from the start. Perhaps going another route for the protagonist would have got different and harsher outcomes.

Anyway I really hope this game does not get too dramatic. That would kill much of its fun in my humble opinion. I would hate something really bad happens to sweet Maya, my fav chick in the game. We will see, I guess...
 
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Malicre

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Yeah the mods come in every now and then to remove off topic posts which sets us back a few pages.
 

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Let me preface this by saying I love this game - my favorite on the site by far.

That said, DPC is going to have to release episodes more frequently than every 4-5 months. At this pace, the game won't be wrapped up for another 3-4 years. I'm not sure you can hold an audience's attention for that long. I know that the quality is most important, and he shouldn't compromise that, but we're talking 2024 or 2025 for a completion.
Someone correct me if i am wrong but didn't the latest update already passed the 5 months mark? Also DPC already said the current update he is working on is bigger than episode 6.

Quality is important sure but bigger doesn't always mean better. Look at how unnecessary (and boring) was this whole mansion cleaning minigame. It would be simpler and take less production time to just make a few dialogue choices to decide how to fix the DIK's house.
 

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I didn't say anything about a "date", I said that it could be Bella and Jill who are playing tennis and Tybalt would show up uninvited, similar to the way he does when they're doing yoga in Ep 2 or the DnG game in Ep 6, and then try to impose himself upon Jill and Bella. If Bella were then to be the one who calls the MC, that doesn't negate or diminish his blackmailing of Jill because she hasn't breached the terms if someone else invites the MC. Tybalt can kick up as much fuss as he wants, but if Bella were to then threaten to leave that would upset Jill and Tybalt does seem to recognise that he needs to be on Bella's good side if he has a chance with Jill so he'd easily relent and allow him to play with them.

In this way, Bella becomes like a loophole in Tybalt's blackmail ploy because he seems to realise that Bella is an important influence on Jill's life and is trying to befriend her so this will help him with Jill, so if Bella invites the MC to things where Jill is also present, he'll have to capitulate to him being there since it's Bella's decision and he needs her on-side in his pursuit of Jill.
What loophole? If Jill is playing Bella, Tybalt would just wait until she's done then spend time with Jill himself. If he wanted a doubles game, he'd provide the 4th person himself specifically so Jill would have no excuse to include the MC; keeping her away from the MC was the entire point of his threat.

If Jill manages to include the MC just because Bella wants to, then we're back to just flagrantly defying Tybalt. After all, Jill is around Bella a lot so what practical limit is Tybalt's ultimatum putting on Jill? "You know I'd turn down the offer if I could, Tybalt, but Bella has her heart set on being a bridesmaid at MC's wedding!"

Look, the blackmail excuse was a threadbare plot hook to begin with. The only way to make it work is if Jill enforces it on herself. So she has to be actively limiting her time with the MC all on her own. It's one thing to be inadvertently roped into a D&G game including the MC. It's quite another to drag the MC into an unrelated activity purely to rub Tybalt's nose in it.

You can't keep treating Tybalt as a butt monkey while simultaneously making Jill worried about crossing him. You can do one or the other (at least in theory), but not both at once.
 

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Someone correct me if i am wrong but didn't the latest update already passed the 5 months mark? Also DPC already said the current update he is working on is bigger than episode 6.

Quality is important sure but bigger doesn't always mean better. Look at how unnecessary (and boring) was this whole mansion cleaning minigame. It would be simpler and take less production time to just make a few dialogue choices to decide how to fix the DIK's house.
I liked the mansion cleaning mini game because it drove home Sage's comment about Rusty being on easy street because he's a Burgmeister and 'thats not how frats work' so it was fun I guess sending your fellow diks to do different chores or jobs.

Also its neat that he's trying to branch out into different avenues of game play like trying to set his game apart from other VN's
 

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So, it's like this.... just don't fucking do that.... Play anything else... like literally anything.....
I give credit when it is due, and DPC is certainly near the top of the genre with his renders. By his own admission, and a lot of folk's criticisms we know that writing is NOT his strong suite... in AL it is particularly bad.
that's not how I interpreted what he said, but at least you can have the daily dose of jerking off material for the rest of you life. :ROFLMAO:enjoy(y):ROFLMAO:
 
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Hmm... Some events in the game are that difficult to accept, is it that, right? Then I don't know anymore. I am quite sensitive, get fond of likable characters and hate when they suffer... or die. Surely it is for the best if I pass on this one then.

By the way, in BaDIK, Dr. Pincake warns, through Jill's message at the start of the game for new players very much in this same sense, I get. However I have found the first six episodes fun and lighthearted enough so far. (I have laughed out loud quite a few times playing this). Truth be said, I have played as a massive dik right from the start. Perhaps going another route for the protagonist would have got different and harsher outcomes.

Anyway I really hope this game does not get too dramatic. That would kill much of its fun in my humble opinion. I would hate something really bad happens to sweet Maya, my fav chick in the game. We will see, I guess...
I shouldn't discourage you from it. You may like it just as much as BaDIK. I will say that it has a much darker tone than the lighthearted Being a DIK. I also hope BaDIK doesn't go too deep on the drama in future episodes. Right now, it has the perfect balance. If DPC keeps it that way and doesn't turn it into a brooding, morose spectacle then I think all will be well.
 

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Someone correct me if i am wrong but didn't the latest update already passed the 5 months mark? Also DPC already said the current update he is working on is bigger than episode 6.

Quality is important sure but bigger doesn't always mean better. Look at how unnecessary (and boring) was this whole mansion cleaning minigame. It would be simpler and take less production time to just make a few dialogue choices to decide how to fix the DIK's house.
Ep 6 released Nov 13th, so we're not close to 5 months yet.

What loophole? If Jill is playing Bella, Tybalt would just wait until she's done then spend time with Jill himself. If he wanted a doubles game, he'd provide the 4th person himself specifically so Jill would have no excuse to include the MC; keeping her away from the MC was the entire point of his threat.

If Jill manages to include the MC just because Bella wants to, then we're back to just flagrantly defying Tybalt. After all, Jill is around Bella a lot so what practical limit is Tybalt's ultimatum putting on Jill? "You know I'd turn down the offer if I could, Tybalt, but Bella has her heart set on being a bridesmaid at MC's wedding!"

Look, the blackmail excuse was a threadbare plot hook to begin with. The only way to make it work is if Jill enforces it on herself. So she has to be actively limiting her time with the MC all on her own. It's one thing to be inadvertently roped into a D&G game including the MC. It's quite another to drag the MC into an unrelated activity purely to rub Tybalt's nose in it.

You can't keep treating Tybalt as a butt monkey while simultaneously making Jill worried about crossing him. You can do one or the other (at least in theory), but not both at once.
I did lay this out in my earlier theory, but I'll do it again in greater detail and with bullet points:
  • Bella and Jill are playing tennis
  • Tybalt interrupts them, suggests playing Jill
  • Bella says no because it's just supposed to be her and Jill playing
  • Tybalt suggests doubles and getting a 4th to join, goes to call a Prep buddy
  • Bella says she has someone else in mind, Tybalt capitulates because he's trying to befriend Bella
  • Bella, unbeknownst to Jill and Tybalt, calls the MC
  • The MC shows up, Jill is surprised, Tybalt is pissed
  • Bella gets annoyed at Tybalt, says she'll just leave if he won't let the MC join, Jill gets upset that Bella wants to leave
  • Tybalt, in order to keep Jill happy, lets the MC stay so that Bella will stay, which is what Jill wants.
In this scenario, it's Bella wanting the MC to stay because he's her guest, and Tybalt knows how much Bella means to Jill and how much he needs to keep Bella on-side, so if Jill is upset at Bella leaving, he'll capitulate because it satisfies two of his goals, being on good terms with Bella and keeping Jill happy, even if it means going against his own blackmail conditions.
 

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Hey, can somebody tell me who is the girl from N7's Profile Picture (the user who has posted this game along with many others)? Is it from a game or is it just a single render? If yes, then from what game?

Sorry if it's not the right place to ask this question, and please guide me where to ask such questions if it is indeed not.

And a huge thanks to N7 for posting this game and also giving us regular updates about what's going on with the development of the game. This is like the best adult game I've played and even maybe the best game overall with what it makes you feel. You just get attached to the story and the characters and don't want it to ever end. Everything about it is just so perfect. Especially, I really appreciate and am amazed by the wonderful soundtrack of the game. This is what makes you live the already very well written story.
Right now I don't earn but one thing is sure and it is that when I do earn, I'll be really glad to support DrPinkCake's work. :)
 

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Ep 6 released Nov 13th, so we're not close to 5 months yet.



I did lay this out in my earlier theory, but I'll do it again in greater detail and with bullet points:
  • Bella and Jill are playing tennis
  • Tybalt interrupts them, suggests playing Jill
  • Bella says no because it's just supposed to be her and Jill playing
  • Tybalt suggests doubles and getting a 4th to join, goes to call a Prep buddy
  • Bella says she has someone else in mind, Tybalt capitulates because he's trying to befriend Bella
  • Bella, unbeknownst to Jill and Tybalt, calls the MC
  • The MC shows up, Jill is surprised, Tybalt is pissed
  • Bella gets annoyed at Tybalt, says she'll just leave if he won't let the MC join, Jill gets upset that Bella wants to leave
  • Tybalt, in order to keep Jill happy, lets the MC stay so that Bella will stay, which is what Jill wants.
In this scenario, it's Bella wanting the MC to stay because he's her guest, and Tybalt knows how much Bella means to Jill and how much he needs to keep Bella on-side, so if Jill is upset at Bella leaving, he'll capitulate because it satisfies two of his goals, being on good terms with Bella and keeping Jill happy, even if it means going against his own blackmail conditions.
Didn't Dr Pinkcake upgrade his tech ? I think i read that somewhere, could be wrong. If so hopefully it speeds up development so we wont be waiting 5 months.
 
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AchedCroissant

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Hey, can somebody tell me who is the girl from N7's Profile Picture (the user who has posted this game along with many others)? Is it from a game or is it just a single render? If yes, then from what game?

Sorry if it's not the right place to ask this question, and please guide me where to ask such questions if it is indeed not.

And a huge thanks to N7 for posting this game and also giving us regular updates about what's going on with the development of the game. This is like the best adult game I've played and even maybe the best game overall with what it makes you feel. You just get attached to the story and the characters and don't want it to ever end. Everything about it is just so perfect. Especially, I really appreciate and am amazed by the wonderful soundtrack of the game. This is what makes you live the already very well written story.
Right now I don't earn but one thing is sure and it is that when I do earn, I'll be really glad to support DrPinkCake's work. :)
Is Jill Valentine
 

Malicre

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For renders I bounce back and forth between the charlatan that made milfy city and DPC.
What do you consider a render? Because personally i think ToN has some of the best renders/animations/cutscenes ever seen in a porn game, like that dev should be working on real triple a titles in the gaming industry.

DPC doesn't excel in one aspect, games like LoF and ToN do certain things better but what he does do is make a good overall product.
 
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