VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[dalli_x]

Obvious suspects are Quinn and Riona.

Quinn cares about the money and to do that she needs to sell more stuff, but that can't happen with Rusty in charge. With Rusty gone and Tommy in charge, she thinks that her sales would go way up, but the problem is she underrestimates Tommy's backbone and after her betrayal, he gives her the hard shoulder which she didn't expect. With the jocks deal gone, she's forced to try to sell to the Preps.

Or it could be Riona, on direct orders from Quinn. She looks awfully distressed when the laptop disappeared, which hints at she knows some stuff, but doesn't really tell.

I also assume that Quinn is involved. But from a motive. Quinn is still making money selling drugs through Tommy. But the Tri-Alpha's have fallen away as a source of income. Because of Chad's attack on the MC, the Tri-Alpha's are under surveillance, probably initiated by Cathy. Quinn must therefore checkmate Cathy in order to do business with Tri-Alpha's without interference. However, she could not foresee that after the Prep's party, the DIK Mansion would be devastated, probably by the confrontation of Tri-Alpha's and DIK's. Dawe doesn't buy anything from Quinn and the DIK's are basically paralyzed. Quinn made many bad decisions and should have listened to Riona from the beginning.

There could have been three HOT's involved in the whole action. Quinn, Riona and Cammy. Quinn gives the instruction to Cammy to distract Rusty. We should remember that Rusty had sex during the theft of the laptop. Tommy is distracted by the dildo game anyway. This gives Riona time to get the laptop out of the safe and send the cluck to the toilet. But Rusty notices that the laptop is missing and Riona can't get out of the toilet anymore. The plan was probably to put the laptop in the safe. That would also explain why Quinn went after Tommy and distracted him. He had his back to the safe. Riona improvises. Riona locked the door to the bathroom anyway. The toilet has a window that Riona easily fits through. She places the laptop in the library and then sits down on the bench in front of the toilet.

 

[Razrback16]

Another Maya argument?

...I just re-read the post of mine you quoted and the post of the person I responded to - there was no argument that I can tell between the two just somebody asking for people's opinions on something. Discussions are good. That's what messageboards are for.

Guys, you realized she cheated on Josy and not on the MC?

Yep.

And my enjoyment will lessen.

Seriously, I don't look forward to choices that will potentially start locking off paths and content, not just because I like all these girls, but because I much prefer to get as much as content as possible before having to make potential decisions near the end that will affect the outcome in order to have to do minimal replays.

hah ya, I understand, I just figure it's probably inevitable as I imagine all these girls who want to be with MC probably aren't going to take too kindly to him messing around with every woman on campus, so I'm basically expecting more of the Sage Vs. Jill type choices, and for them to start having a bigger and bigger impact. We'll see how DPC handles it.

I've said it before many times, but Maya's "100% honesty" request feels, to me, like it's because she needs to be able to trust him before she can tell him about herself because she has trust issues given what's happened with her Dad. She was worried the MC might reject her or treat her differently like her Dad did and so she wanted/needed him to earn her trust and prove that he wasn't like that before she told him the truth, and that's something I think is perfectly understandable.

Oh, probably, she clearly has trust issues, but it's just really hypocritical to ask someone to be 100% honest with you, then not be honest with that same person, yourself. It's just an exchange between Maya & MC where I feel like it was an unnecessary request on her part.

 

[MelonGod]

Riona improvises. Riona locked the door to the bathroom anyway. The toilet has a window that Riona easily fits through.

You know dalli this might be one of the smartest things I've seen on this thread for a while.

 

[dalli_x]

Yes...I have my moments.

 

[DaBigD]

No offence, but i can't really disagree with that accusation. I've even questioned why you were here, other than to argue. You've been pretty aggressive with it.
And for your second part, no, not everyone's like that.

not everyones like that? - tells voice in my head, told you your a pyscopath sex fiend -

 

[Heycock]

...I just re-read the post of mine you quoted and the post of the person I responded to - there was no argument that I can tell between the two just somebody asking for people's opinions on something. Discussions are good. That's what messageboards are for.

If you throw a controversial opinion, then it is expected to start an argument It happened multiple times in the past. Of course there is nothing wrong with that, is just a little repetitive. Luckly for us we are so tired of that argument than never happened.

 

[Razrback16]

Tybalt doesn't own the premises and Jill had invited him and given him an open invitation (back in episode 3):

Jill: "Tybalt, wait!"Jill: "He's my guest and he's free to come here whenever he wants to."Tybalt: "I beg your pardon."Tybalt: "Jill, please! This student has no business in the mansion."Tybalt: "Look at his rags."Tybalt: "You call that clothes?"Jill: "He's my guest and you will treat him with respect."
There were no witnesses of the MC actually doing anything illegal other than hitting Tybalt and arguably it was in self defense as Tybalt struck first.

Kinda case closed.

I don't think Jill's invitation was intended as an invitation to vandalize her home and the building a number of other people reside in. Call me crazy.

Not saying there's going to be any legal repercussions (likely not) since there are only suspicions on Tybalt's part about the "fire", but given the circumstances of the situation I felt like MC already got away with some pretty bad behavior, even though Tybalt is a douchebag, but it wasn't worth pushing it, and risking friendships (or more) with Jill or Isabella by going there and beating his ass, no matter how enjoyable IMO.

You do you, I'm just stating how I perceived things in Episode 5.

 

[Coinzell]

I think it was Coinzell, but dont bother him couse his our T34 plan to invade Sweden and force DPC to give us a Jill sex scene.

Ahm... What? How my name came up here? It is Cas who plaing with his dad. I stand alone...(and mine is dead btw)
Or is it some commie joke about "I/we"? (like if I play this game then it's WE who playing it, and i just don't know about that?)
p.s. and it was Lostanddamned who planning to invade Sweden.

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Holy fuck. How i supposed to sleep now? This face is nightmares material
Well, from now on i will certainly distinguish you from Chip.

 

[dalli_x]

I also assume that Quinn is involved. But from a motive. Quinn is still making money selling drugs through Tommy. But the Tri-Alpha's have fallen away as a source of income. Because of Chad's attack on the MC, the Tri-Alpha's are under surveillance, probably initiated by Cathy. Quinn must therefore checkmate Cathy in order to do business with Tri-Alpha's without interference. However, she could not foresee that after the Prep's party, the DIK Mansion would be devastated, probably by the confrontation of Tri-Alpha's and DIK's. Dawe doesn't buy anything from Quinn and the DIK's are basically paralyzed. Quinn made many bad decisions and should have listened to Riona from the beginning.

There could have been three HOT's involved in the whole action. Quinn, Riona and Cammy. Quinn gives the instruction to Cammy to distract Rusty. We should remember that Rusty had sex during the theft of the laptop. Tommy is distracted by the dildo game anyway. This gives Riona time to get the laptop out of the safe and send the cluck to the toilet. But Rusty notices that the laptop is missing and Riona can't get out of the toilet anymore. The plan was probably to put the laptop in the safe. That would also explain why Quinn went after Tommy and distracted him. He had his back to the safe. Riona improvises. Riona locked the door to the bathroom anyway. The toilet has a window that Riona easily fits through. She places the laptop in the library and then sits down on the bench in front of the toilet.

But something about the theory is not yet complete.
A DIK will be involved in the story. The picture in front of the safe was hanging crooked on the wall. Tommy was back there for quite a while because he left the dildo game before. According to this, Tommy would have had the time to open the safe. When Rusty came from Cathy, Tommy makes it pretty aggressively clear that if a DIK is involved, he will kill them. This could also be interpreted as an aggressive defense strategy. Cathy's picture could also have been sent to Tommy's cell phone and he placed it in his folder on the laptop in advance. The only question is how Quinn got Tommy to do it. The answer could be Josy. Everything takes place in EP4. Quinn didn't give in to Josy's membership request until Josy mentioned she was Tommy's stepsister. Quinn brought Josy and Maya to play dildo and Tommy was not happy about it. Yes, some theories say that Quinn just wants to play with Tommy. But that's actually way too obvious.

 

[Heycock]

Ahm... What? How my name came up here? It is Cas who plaing with his dad. I stand alone...(and mine is dead btw)
Or is it some commie joke about "I/we"? (like if I play this game then it's WE who playing it, and i just don't know about that?)
p.s. and it was Lostanddamned who planning to invade Sweden.

Then i am terrible sorry, i got confused. But, werent you the guy wich Lostanddamned planned to invade sweden with?

 

[DaBigD]

I don't. It doesn't really make much sense because even if Vinny was behind it, what's the point? Petty revenge? Seems like a total waste of time and effort on his part. Plus, how did he get that picture of Cathy, let alone get in to the party unseen? The library windows are just windows, not doors, so it's not like he could sneak in or out of there. And why would Nick help? Seems like, whatever the goal may be, that there isn't really any benefit for him.

To get that picture of Cathy, it would seem most likely that it was taken by a girl since it was in the womens changing room, and I'd still say that the most likely person to have taken it would have been a HOT. Which, if you go by the Vinny theory, would mean he has a HOT as an accomplice, but I think it would be more likely that this whole thing was done by someone in the HOTs with no involvement from Vinny or Nick.

1 why would you think its the womans changeing room.
2) even so why/how would vinny/nick get in there take a photo without cathy knowing it


if we going to do this cathy thing, lets start by knowing these things.

1) someone friendly to cathy took the pic and cathy knows exactly who that was. (tommy? / rusty?) but personally i dont think it was a dik due to the impossible task never being done b4, but that doesnt mean its still a secret.
2) someone who has access to the laptop, also is aware that the photo exists, and where it is. (friend of the picture taker or the picture taker himself)
3) was at the party, windows were not broken during this party until affterwards. so no window access cept those slide up kind in the bathroom
4) cathy will confront the person who took the photo in a private chit chat i would assume.
5) rusty was the most frantic about the cluck during the party.
6 rusty was nearly in tears exiting cathys office the morning after.

but back to 1) is this possibly a photo from her swyper profile?

 

[Lostanddamned]

p.s. and it was Lostanddamned who planning to invade Sweden.

Woah, I said I was gonna invade DPC's house with your WW2 tank if he interrupts the Bella scene with Jill or someone else again, I'm not gonna invade fucking Sweden. Like that guy will really find out how powerful your T-34 tank is.

 

[Lostanddamned]

Then i am terrible sorry, i got confused. But, werent you the guy wich Lostanddamned planned to invade sweden with?

Let me clear things out for you. Coin never said he was gonna invade anyone. The plan was mine and those really were my words.

Coinzell is our resident tank commander/comrade/vodka specialist/gopnik. And since I don't own a T-34, T-72 or a T-90 tank, I was gonna use one of Coin's tanks to invade DPC's house and wreck his ass.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Welcome to the club.



You make me think about it, and yeah, trashing each other house is a step to far. But the other things in the list, with some of them there are nothing wrong, with others is just youngish behaviour.
Like: we said tresspasing couse we are talking from a legal perspective, but to get in a party without invitation couse you want to talk with some girls, yeah, not a problem for me.
Or like the phone talking with Jill... well the problem there is that you call a virgin girl that has feelings for you (that you provoke) so you can get info so you can have a party with stripers. Yeah, thats being an ashole. But the regular kind of ashole we are couse is a porn game. If Jill is just your friend, to get some info without giving your reasons, nothing wrong.
Other things are in a greay zone. Like taking the drone. If they give it back is ok.
The "social justice" thing... well besides the joke, that has some political implications... At least I will not call them inocents. I understand people who disagree.

I don't really care about the judicial aspect, I don't think there is a threat of a real trial.

I'm interested in the moral aspect. Tybalt's advice not to hang out with Mc is very good advice, then of course it is tainted by Tybalt's real goal. But Jill, has several reasons why she shouldn't hang out with MC anymore, who does very little to deserve her trust in several episodes including the Preps party.
Of course I'm talking in the case of a MC interested in Jill, who only phones her to prepare for the Preps' raid, when he meets her that evening he tells her nothing and waits for Tybalt to detonate the bomb.

Then from the blackmail onwards Jill promptly regains ground and at that point it should be Mc to avoid her, and instead the poor guy who has never had a TV decides to declare himself to her....

Not sure I'd go for polarizing - I just don't see how you arrive at that conclusion?

Josy:
Was the one who initiated getting closer to MC suggesting the ride home and the date.
Invited MC for netflix and chill when her parents were out of town.
Was the 'leader' not the 'lead' in the camping flashback.
Up and ran from home with next to no money to attend B&R
Didn't back down to Quinn
and depending on your choices she's very much forward physically and will give Tommy a kicking if you wuss out.

The only time she's been 'submissive' and on the backfoot was during the M&J reveal and relationship up to the Library scene. I'd put that down to her one seeming weakness in that Josy doesn't thrive on being alone and left out.

As for Maya being an Alpha.............That'd be the same Maya who's been a plaything for Quinn, hostage to her dad, afraid to reveal her sexuality and on and on.

I'm not sure she even qualifies as Beta and is probably way back in Charlie.



EDIT: I'm not being a Maya hater but each girl fulfills a role in the game and where Jill is the refined young lady who you must despoil and turn into a woman, Maya is for the white knights who need to rescue a princess.

Maya for me is only Alpha in the troupe...

but Josy is never even vaguely so....

the first characteristic should be to be assertive and tend to make decisions for themselves and others.

In the relationship with MC, Josy is indecisive to paradoxical levels " I'm busy but I want to see you again" "how nice to hear from you, but I shouldn't have called you" " goodbye, but why don't you stay over?"

then she is punished like a little girl for a week without a phone and after that she decides to react like a little girl, running away to go to college... running away from a father who loves her and whom she loves...
On the famous evening of her arrival at BR, she runs away first and hides in the bathroom....
when the father comes to visit she is afraid to face him....

the only alpha act is to face Quinn, that she doesn't know anyway and that has no power on her (unlike Maya, that is true that she is a toy in Quinn's hands, but she is forced to suffer for the mirage of free tuition)

from the arrival to the BR onwards she practically suffers any decision, she goes in the troupe if Maya feels like it, otherwise she suffers and then she unloads the blame on the girl, at the picnic she listens and nods...

Josy has a few spurts of courage (with Quinn, with Tommy) but in general she suffers even more than Maya, who at least has to deal with more or less real problems, Josy just endures

ChipLecsap forgive me

 

[Coinzell]

Then i am terrible sorry, i got confused. But, werent you the guy wich Lostanddamned planned to invade sweden with?

Ehh.
Yes. It's me.
You can see it above.

Woah, I said I was gonna invade DPC's house with your WW2 tank if he interrupts the Bella scene with Jill or someone else again, I'm not gonna invade fucking Sweden. Like that guy will really find out how powerful your T-34 tank is.

If his house in Sweden then you're invading Sweden. And i actually studied T-72. Nobody using T-34 today except as monuments and museum exhibit.

Let me clear things out for you. Coin never said he was gonna invade anyone. The plan was mine and those really were my words.

Coinzell is our resident tank commander/comrade/vodka specialist/gopnik. And since I don't own a T-34, T-72 or a T-90 tank, I was gonna use one of Coin's tanks to invade DPC's house and wreck his ass.

I liked it better when i was Russian Tzar (thanks to Kellermann)

 

[Razrback16]

im guessing yopur a female, guys when growing up face this challenge i like to calkl the " pussy test ". boys bully boys to see who are the pussys and who are dudes you never wanna mess with ever. pecking order ensues, alpha males are born. now back to tybalt slapping mc. any alpha, or any male that grew up in the pussy test/ pecking order era, has no choice but to respond, or forever be called the others "bitch" making the mc a pussy, and failing his pussy test. now other fights like the one with caleb can easily be walked away from if no violent attack has yet to occur, but once someone make physical aggressive contact , its game on.

Sometimes you have to take the high road even when you know you can demolish somebody; a real man doesn't always need to prove that he can destroy somebody. Everyone here knows MC would wreck Tybalt in any physical confrontation if he so chooses, but there are other variables at play - MC just played a part in vandalizing the home of a number of people including Tybalt (even though he's an asshole) and Jill - to me, it wasn't worth adding to the risk of potentially ruining a relationship with Jill & Bella by stacking another item on top that would look bad from Jill's angle - glad her piano wasn't ruined, that would have really sucked.

 

[Lostanddamned]

If his house in Sweden then you're invading Sweden. And i actually studied T-72. Nobody using T-34 today except as monuments and museum exhibit.

You make it sound like I'm gonna nuke Sweden and raze it to the ground.

During my mandatory military service, we also worked on T-72's (although very rarely it was a very unpleasant and difficult machine to work on, everything on it is difficult to access).

I liked it better when i was Russian Tzar (thanks to Kellermann)

Tank Commander Coinzell has a better ring to it.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

1 why would you think its the womans changeing room.

Because the lockers are pink.

2) even so why/how would vinny/nick get in there take a photo without cathy knowing it

Easy; because they didn't.

if we going to do this cathy thing, lets start by knowing these things.

1) someone friendly to cathy took the pic and cathy knows exactly who that was. (tommy? / rusty?) but personally i dont think it was a dik due to the impossible task never being done b4, but that doesnt mean its still a secret.

The picture is taken from beside her whilst her head is down and clearly done without her knowledge, so this would not be a "friend", least of all Tommy or Rusty. That it would be either of them literally makes no sense.

2) someone who has access to the laptop, also is aware that the photo exists, and where it is. (friend of the picture taker or the picture taker himself)

"Access" could simply mean the laptop was on and unlocked which is what it was when it went missing, so that means anyone could have used it. The picture, if it was taken by a HOT, could easily have been uploaded from a USB pen or from the phone itself onto the DIKs Rooster account via the laptop.

3) was at the party, windows were not broken during this party until affterwards. so no window access cept those slide up kind in the bathroom

No windows were broken during this party. That happened in Ep 2 and they were repaired by Ep 4.

4) cathy will confront the person who took the photo in a private chit chat i would assume.

If she ever finds out who took it, perhaps.

5) rusty was the most frantic about the cluck during the party.

Because it was a big fucking deal that could get them in a lot of trouble, so of course he was frantic.

6 rusty was nearly in tears exiting cathys office the morning after.

And? He felt sorry for her, that's why he cried. Doesn't mean anything more than that.

but back to 1) is this possibly a photo from her swyper profile?

No because, again, this picture was clearly taken without her knowledge or consent.

 

[n0cn1l]

Sometimes you have to take the high road even when you know you can demolish somebody; a real man doesn't always need to prove that he can destroy somebody. Everyone here knows MC would wreck Tybalt in any physical confrontation if he so chooses, but there are other variables at play - MC just played a part in vandalizing the home of a number of people including Tybalt (even though he's an asshole) and Jill - to me, it wasn't worth adding to the risk of potentially ruining a relationship with Jill & Bella by stacking another item on top that would look bad from Jill's angle - glad her piano wasn't ruined, that would have really sucked.

People really are different, the only thing on my mind was: Dude has a watermelon as a girlfriend and I bang his mom, this asshole suffers enought. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Heycock]

I don't really care about the judicial aspect, I don't think there is a threat of a real trial.

I'm interested in the moral aspect. Tybalt's advice not to hang out with Mc is very good advice, then of course it is tainted by Tybalt's real goal. But Jill, has several reasons why she shouldn't hang out with MC anymore, who does very little to deserve her trust in several episodes including the Preps party.
Of course I'm talking in the case of a MC interested in Jill, who only phones her to prepare for the Preps' raid, when he meets her that evening he tells her nothing and waits for Tybalt to detonate the bomb.

Then from the blackmail onwards Jill promptly regains ground and at that point it should be Mc to avoid her, and instead the poor guy who has never had a TV decides to declare himself to her....

Ok. But that was different from what i was arguing against. I was just saying the things that the DIKs does are not so bad or are cool when you are 20's, with the exception of trashing the house.

Yeah, i agree with you that Jill (or noone atually) should date the MC. But mostly because he is fucking everyone in side. You are going to be cheated by a guy like that in a weak even if he try to comited to a single relationship. But besides that, is actually that bad?
I mean thoose are reasons to not date someone, but it wouldn't stop a friendship most of the time.

If i am not mistaken, the plan wasn't to raid the party when he calls her but to got the HOT's out (a brutal raid if you ask me, but not exactly wrong).