VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Ok. But that was different from what i was arguing against. I was just saying the things that the DIKs does are not so bad or are cool when you are 20's, with the exception of trashing the house.

Yeah, i agree with you that Jill (or noone atually) should date the MC. But mostly because he is fucking everyone in side. You are going to be cheated by a guy like that in a weak even if he try to comited to a single relationship. But besides that, is actually that bad?
I mean thoose are reasons to not date someone, but it wouldn't stop a friendship most of the time.

If i am not mistaken, the plan wasn't to raid the party when he calls her but to got the HOT's out (a brutal raid if you ask me, but not exactly wrong).

if your Mc cheats on her with every other girl that's your problem though....

but even in a route dedicated to her, MC still doesn't behave properly, practically never
do you think his raid on the Preps will please her? put her in an easy position?
he doesn't care, he lets himself be dragged along by the others, by Derek, just as Rusty would seem to have let himself be dragged along by the Diks some time back.
He doesn't seem to condemn Derek's idea (at most he puts the blame on him after the picnic), and he doesn't even bother to talk to Jill about it, but he just breathes a sigh of relief when he finds out that Jill's plan hasn't been damaged.

In theory they only go in to find out why the Hots are there by talking to Quinn or Sage, in the end they find out it's all Quinn's fault, but the Preps are rich so they deserve whatever they get

As rich as Jill, maybe less so.

 

[89898hh]

Defiantly feeling like Friday will be the release date announcement which will be the 23rd

 

[DaBigD]

i recall maybe a year or so earlier that when i read the profile for this game, quinn was a LI and her photo was part of the main list rather than 5 LI's it was 6. i didnt start this game til maybe 2 months ago. and i was dissapointed that the quinn image was removed from the list of LI's since she was my main draw on the initial choice of playing aside from jill. anyhow, does anyone still have a screenshot of that with quinn in the group of LI's?

also can someone explain she was removed if they know?

 

[TrainHardnett]

if your Mc cheats on her with every other girl that's your problem though....

but even in a route dedicated to her, MC still doesn't behave properly, practically never
do you think his raid on the Preps will please her? put her in an easy position?
he doesn't care, he lets himself be dragged along by the others, by Derek, just as Rusty would seem to have let himself be dragged along by the Diks some time back.
He doesn't seem to condemn Derek's idea (at most he puts the blame on him after the picnic), and he doesn't even bother to talk to Jill about it, but he just breathes a sigh of relief when he finds out that Jill's plan hasn't been damaged.

In theory they only go in to find out why the Hots are there by talking to Quinn or Sage, in the end they find out it's all Quinn's fault, but the Preps are rich so they deserve whatever they get

As rich as Jill, maybe less so.

Define how the prep's house was "vandalized" because no damage was done to the actual house, the sprinkler system would not cause the damage Tybalt claims and the eggs never hit the house. Not to mention MC hitting Tybalt is not set is stone because it is a choice. So asking a friend if there was a party planned with the HOTs for some reason is a bad thing now? Which turned out to be some kind of a fundraiser which confused the DIKs even more as to why would the HOTs be there. Get in, talk to either Sage or Quinn because they are not picking up their phones and get out. This of course would have never happened if the either of them picked up their phones and said "hey we are doing this because we are low on money." But of course that doesn't give drama so things are the way they are.

Again you are using too much real life logic man.

 

[Heycock]

if your Mc cheats on her with every other girl that's your problem though....

but even in a route dedicated to her, MC still doesn't behave properly, practically never
do you think his raid on the Preps will please her? put her in an easy position?
he doesn't care, he lets himself be dragged along by the others, by Derek, just as Rusty would seem to have let himself be dragged along by the Diks some time back.
He doesn't seem to condemn Derek's idea (at most he puts the blame on him after the picnic), and he doesn't even bother to talk to Jill about it, but he just breathes a sigh of relief when he finds out that Jill's plan hasn't been damaged.

In theory they only go in to find out why the Hots are there by talking to Quinn or Sage, in the end they find out it's all Quinn's fault, but the Preps are rich so they deserve whatever they get

As rich as Jill, maybe less so.

Oh my MC is defentely an ashole, its not worst couse the game doesnt allow me. I just think the general MC as a mix of every posible route. For reasons...

Maybe it will please her... at least some dark side of her, like: rich girl like bad boy. But we know she didnt officialy like it, but it wasn't a deal breaker.
I think Jill is some form of sequel of Lynette story, a girl who rejects the place in wich she was born and rebels against that by following the low-class guy. Titanic all over again. So it's kind of complicate for the antybulling thing and the: "Let's go to the autorities". But her heart is in the right place (again this is political, so its up to everyones opinion). I mean she is a sleeping rebel, she rejects the high class society, but doesnt agree with the "radical methods", or if you prefered, the violent agressive rejection of the MC, Derek and the DIK's. I think it could perfectly work out. They have something in common, but they also have some differences that they would eventually work out. As a rebel for most of my life I saw a lot of couples work on that premise, couse for couple making is more important the general principles than the methods. She can soften him, or he can hardner her.
And i also think that if Jill knew that Tybalt stole her panties and use them in a watermelon, she will trash his party herself.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

Living up to your name with that comment.

Also, "straight lesbian" is an oxymoron.

It was supposed to be a joke. The MC is the straight one in the group. I guess no one got it.

 

[Kellermann]

i recall maybe a year or so earlier that when i read the profile for this game, quinn was a LI and her photo was part of the main list rather than 5 LI's it was 6. i didnt start this game til maybe 2 months ago. and i was dissapointed that the quinn image was removed from the list of LI's since she was my main draw on the initial choice of playing aside from jill. anyhow, does anyone still have a screenshot of that with quinn in the group of LI's?

also can someone explain she was removed if they know?

It was just a promo shot and was never an actual indication of her main girl status. That said, I think it's dumb that she wasn't included as a main girl. Quinn would have rounded out the cast nicely. You have angelic Jill, so it would make sense to have someone on the opposite end of the spectrum. Sage, although on the DIK side, never quite feels like a bad girl. And then you think about how much time DPC already spends on Quinn as opposed to the other side girls. He even gave her an entire flashback story. I love Camila, but she gets fuck all in terms of back story. We see a little bit of Jade's home life, but that has as much to do with Stephen as it does Jade. Anyway, I like to classify Quinn as a main side girl.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

I also assume that Dawe is behind the blackmail of Chad. Dawe wants the presidential title from Chad. But Dawe has forgotten that he is dumber than a meter of dirt road.

You get the hell out of here with your metric system! Some of us are still on yards and we don't understand multiples of ten!

 

[sorco2003]

I don't. It doesn't really make much sense because even if Vinny was behind it, what's the point? Petty revenge? Seems like a total waste of time and effort on his part. Plus, how did he get that picture of Cathy, let alone get in to the party unseen? The library windows are just windows, not doors, so it's not like he could sneak in or out of there. And why would Nick help? Seems like, whatever the goal may be, that there isn't really any benefit for him.

To get that picture of Cathy, it would seem most likely that it was taken by a girl since it was in the womens changing room, and I'd still say that the most likely person to have taken it would have been a HOT. Which, if you go by the Vinny theory, would mean he has a HOT as an accomplice, but I think it would be more likely that this whole thing was done by someone in the HOTs with no involvement from Vinny or Nick.

What would be the profit for that HOT by taking the photo and publishing it?

 

[DaBigD]

It was just a promo shot and was never an actual indication of her main girl status. That said, I think it's dumb that she wasn't included as a main girl. Quinn would have rounded out the cast nicely. You have angelic Jill, so it would make sense to have someone on the opposite end of the spectrum. Sage, although on the DIK side, never quite feels like a bad girl. And then you think about how much time DPC already spends on Quinn as opposed to the other side girls. He even gave her an entire flashback story. I love Camila, but she gets fuck all in terms of back story. We see a little bit of Jade's home life, but that has as much to do with Stephen as it does Jade. Anyway, I like to classify Quinn as a main side girl.

thats too bad her plot and backstory certianly fit the bill for a LI

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

I also assume that Dawe is behind the blackmail of Chad. Dawe wants the presidential title from Chad. But Dawe has forgotten that he is dumber than a 3,28ft of dirt road.

Well, shit. Now I have to take my lazy ass outside and measure. Me and my big mouth.

 

[sorco2003]

Obvious suspects are Quinn and Riona.

Quinn cares about the money and to do that she needs to sell more stuff, but that can't happen with Rusty in charge. With Rusty gone and Tommy in charge, she thinks that her sales would go way up, but the problem is she underrestimates Tommy's backbone and after her betrayal, he gives her the hard shoulder which she didn't expect. With the jocks deal gone, she's forced to try to sell to the Preps.

Or it could be Riona, on direct orders from Quinn. She looks awfully distressed when the laptop disappeared, which hints at she knows some stuff, but doesn't really tell.

But without Rusty there is no free money for all the things they do, the rest would have to spend more of their money for the common things, food, drinks, parties, the house... in other words less available for drugs.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

What would be the profit for that HOT by taking the photo and publishing it?

Nothing. They're part of Quinn's 'restauarant' so they'd just be doing what she requests of them, like always.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

It was just a promo shot and was never an actual indication of her main girl status. That said, I think it's dumb that she wasn't included as a main girl. Quinn would have rounded out the cast nicely. You have angelic Jill, so it would make sense to have someone on the opposite end of the spectrum. Sage, although on the DIK side, never quite feels like a bad girl. And then you think about how much time DPC already spends on Quinn as opposed to the other side girls. He even gave her an entire flashback story. I love Camila, but she gets fuck all in terms of back story. We see a little bit of Jade's home life, but that has as much to do with Stephen as it does Jade. Anyway, I like to classify Quinn as a main side girl.

I'm still not convinced she's only a side dish. There's still time to make her a main course. Of course, it will involve a lot more writing to do that since her character is so far off the rails. The MC likes her but they have very little in common.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I'm still not convinced she's only a side dish. There's still time to make her a main course. Of course, it will involve a lot more writing to do that since her character is so far off the rails. The MC likes her but they have very little in common.

She won't be. She's an antagonist and that is her function according to DPC.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I don't really care about the judicial aspect, I don't think there is a threat of a real trial.

I'm interested in the moral aspect. Tybalt's advice not to hang out with Mc is very good advice, then of course it is tainted by Tybalt's real goal. But Jill, has several reasons why she shouldn't hang out with MC anymore, who does very little to deserve her trust in several episodes including the Preps party.
Of course I'm talking in the case of a MC interested in Jill, who only phones her to prepare for the Preps' raid, when he meets her that evening he tells her nothing and waits for Tybalt to detonate the bomb.

Then from the blackmail onwards Jill promptly regains ground and at that point it should be Mc to avoid her, and instead the poor guy who has never had a TV decides to declare himself to her....


Maya for me is only Alpha in the troupe...

but Josy is never even vaguely so....

the first characteristic should be to be assertive and tend to make decisions for themselves and others.

In the relationship with MC, Josy is indecisive to paradoxical levels " I'm busy but I want to see you again" "how nice to hear from you, but I shouldn't have called you" " goodbye, but why don't you stay over?"

then she is punished like a little girl for a week without a phone and after that she decides to react like a little girl, running away to go to college... running away from a father who loves her and whom she loves...
On the famous evening of her arrival at BR, she runs away first and hides in the bathroom....
when the father comes to visit she is afraid to face him....

the only alpha act is to face Quinn, that she doesn't know anyway and that has no power on her (unlike Maya, that is true that she is a toy in Quinn's hands, but she is forced to suffer for the mirage of free tuition)

from the arrival to the BR onwards she practically suffers any decision, she goes in the troupe if Maya feels like it, otherwise she suffers and then she unloads the blame on the girl, at the picnic she listens and nods...

Josy has a few spurts of courage (with Quinn, with Tommy) but in general she suffers even more than Maya, who at least has to deal with more or less real problems, Josy just endures

ChipLecsap forgive me

Josy, is in control of her life. She not only once had summer job, She makes the first step for both on the MC and Maya. She not run away from home, like a little girl, she got in to the college so She does not give a fuck and decide to move by herself. She was already ready to move away anyway.
Josy can be insecure, She has a flip-flop personality time to time, I guess, DPC is still trying to figure out, how to Write her consistently. but to say Maya is more Alpha than Josy, No.

 

[Kellermann]

I'm still not convinced she's only a side dish. There's still time to make her a main course. Of course, it will involve a lot more writing to do that since her character is so far off the rails. The MC likes her but they have very little in common.

Well, if anyone has a shot, it would be Quinn. At this point though, main girl, side girl it doesn't really matter. She is getting a bunch of screen time, hot sex scenes, and all the drama fans could want. If I were a Quinn fan, I wouldn't worry too much about the label. There is a lot of good content coming for Quinn...er, until she gets shanked in an alley and bleeds out while MC shakes his fist to the sky and screams....NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

Well, if anyone has a shot, it would be Quinn. At this point though, main girl, side girl it doesn't really matter. She is getting a bunch of screen time, hot sex scenes, and all the drama fans could want. If I were a Quinn fan, I wouldn't worry too much about the label. There is a lot of good content coming for Quinn...er, until she gets shanked in an alley and bleeds out while MC shakes his fist to the sky and screams....NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

DPC has spent a lot of time on Quinn, especially considering this:

She won't be. She's an antagonist and that is her function according to DPC.

Maybe she was supposed to be a main LI at one point and DPC decided it wasn't going to work. She could have been made an antagonist with a lot less effort. Besides, she's not the main antagonist. That would be ... (everybody)

 

[felicemastronzo]

Define how the prep's house was "vandalized" because no damage was done to the actual house, the sprinkler system would not cause the damage Tybalt claims and the eggs never hit the house. Not to mention MC hitting Tybalt is not set is stone because it is a choice. So asking a friend if there was a party planned with the HOTs for some reason is a bad thing now? Which turned out to be some kind of a fundraiser which confused the DIKs even more as to why would the HOTs be there. Get in, talk to either Sage or Quinn because they are not picking up their phones and get out. This of course would have never happened if the either of them picked up their phones and said "hey we are doing this because we are low on money." But of course that doesn't give drama so things are the way they are.

Again you are using too much real life logic man.

I don't think you have any idea how much damage the fire suppression system does to furniture.... water ruins furniture, books and textiles very easily, and in general I think there are average things in the preps' home. don't you think it would have ruined Jill's piano?

What's with the eggs?

I didn't mention the punch to Tybalt because I'm assuming a Mc interested in Jill doesn't do that. but in the end it would just be the silly icing on a silly cake.

The prankster jokester to the preps has no justification in the story, apart from Tybalt the other preps for all we know could be decent people, we don't know them and they never did anything to us.

DPC takes himself very seriously, his fans take him very seriously, why should I take him any less? and I'd rather consider that sometimes a character can behave badly, selfishly or stupidly than accept anything because they're teenagers, they're in love, etc etc.

i'm playing stepmother love, a very rudimentary game in every aspect, i don't try at all to understand the why of the actions of its characters....

 

[sorco2003]

Nothing. They're part of Quinn's 'restauarant' so they'd just be doing what she requests of them, like always.

So, what does Queen gain?