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dude... breath! i write walltext but when you get fired up! damm!I think Maya's plot has been a good one, especially for a coming of age story like BaDIK. But I do think it's been hurt by a few structural issues with the way DPC presented it.
The biggest problem is just overexposure. The relationship between Maya, the MC and Josy was the major subplot of Season 1, completely dominating the final episode; the other girls got great scenes, but the focus was always on Maya and Josy. When the situation is finally resolved one way or the other, we have a single (short) episode to breathe before we jump right back into the Maya drama, first with her worrying over the Scavenger Hunt, then in full-on crisis mode thanks to her father.
That's a lot of focus on squarely Maya, particularly since Josy was MIA for the first half and is dragged into the second half through Maya. Even for a hardcore Maya fan like me, it's a bit exhausting. For anyone less invested, I'm sure it's beyond frustrating by now. We really needed more time to give Maya a turn as a supporting character in the other girls' stories in season 2, the way Jill, Bella and Sage got to help the MC through the "Maya issue" in Episode 4.
Instead, Josy's main drama continues to be her relationship with Maya, Jill gets that interminable blackmail subplot, Bella spends most of her time foreshadowing her marriage issue, and Sage winds up being drawn into Maya's plot directly! Good grief! The only other girl who comes close to getting that much attention is Quinn - and what a shock, she's plenty polarizing in her own right! (Also, a lot of Quinn's screen time is in cutscenes, which makes it a bit less intense since the MC isn't constantly reacting to her.)
On top of that, Maya will always pay the price of memorably demanding 100% honesty from the player, only to keep a pretty fucking big secret from him. I think we can all intellectually understand why she did it, but that doesn't mean it's easy to forgive her for it. I certainly can't blame people who would be reluctant to trust her after that... yet the plot proceeds as if trusting her was a foregone conclusion. Again, this would have been a lesser problem if it happened in Season 3 after we'd switched the focus to someone else. That would have given us time to build up the trust the story really relies on. Instead it just exacerbates the problem of overexposure.
Lastly, we get the infamous library scene at the end of Episode 4. Normally I'd let Bacchus rail against this, but since he's no longer here I guess I'll have to cover it. The problem is that we spent an entire episode watching the MC freak out over the fact that Maya and Josy were secretly girlfriends. He talks at great length about how difficult it was to be lied to and kept in the dark like that. All the while, the MC spends no time whatsoever trying to learn about just what the hell happened between them, or really shows much interest in their relationship at all. Yet when we get to the finale, it's all about how Maya and Josy still love each other, and the MC's place in their relationship is a literal afterthought. Even worse, if the girls reject the MC (for very poorly explained reasons in game), we get that infamous shot of the two making out as the MC walks away.
Just... wow. I mean, I'm as big a fan of the pair it gets (though perhaps not quite as a big a fan of Josy as ChipLecsap), but even I felt the chill there. What we needed was to restructure the episode so the MC spends less time moping and more time learning why things played out the way they did. That way when the finale comes around, the MC can either choose to forgive them and help them rekindle their relationship, or admit he really did care about both and try for something more.
By making the MC the driving force behind the reconciliation on the friendship route, we might at least get a little buy-in from the people who don't want anything more to do with the pair. And by eliminating the rejection path we can avoid upstaging the MC's in his own story. It's still not perfect, but it would have dodged some of the most glaring pitfalls.
But hindsight is always 20/20, and we're stuck with what we got. I think Maya's hatred will probably mellow out a bit if she ever sorts out her problems and finally gets to take a supporting role for a while, but there will always be people bitter about the way she was handled. I'm okay with that. It means less competition for me.
just do like i did and sorry girls i can not handle this shit i just wanna be friends!
and then get triggered when they blame you for not trying! both of them accuse you of that!
dalli_x is on a league of his own!If I can requote myself, I said more "plausible", not "impossible". Hell, one could even make an argument B&R is inspired from the colleges from those in the old college comedies. The college in the granddaddy of them all, Animal House, was based on Dartmouth College, in New Hampshire. So, maybe the argument for Connecticut isn't so tight.
I've lurked for a while. I wouldn't dare take on dalli_x, but I always love a good challenge, even if it means my brain in a puddle.
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and you might be correct! i just assumed Connecticut because its closer to new york!
furthermore the preps house gives an impression that they are in a very wealth gap prone state!
and caytlin had that jab about being 3-5 hours drive from NY her hometown!
also Darthmouth is not in driving distance of the sea as we see jill do with the MC!
Its also inside a town, and here i can be very wrong but it gives the impression that the college is outside of town around 10-15 minutes drive!
But as stated New hampshire could also easily work! but does Lebano (the city that houses darthmouth) as a busy city center with skyscrapers like we see when tommy and the MC go out on the town?
Because neither as claremont for that you would need to drive to Boston the nearest city with a skyline (or is it Montreal in Canada?)!
Although in your argument defense they have the north hamptons a well known rich people summer destination!
both arguments location wise are valid!
the MC dick, i know you said besides but you can not go over it!
Maya rubbed Quinn the wrong way on their 1st meeting we got hints off that the way Maya behaves as she talks and hypes herself walking the MC around i can only imagine that got Quinn gears grinding! So she decided to teach her a lesson in humility and sluttyness!
then after the cumpetition Maya has refused to participate in(and i agree its her own brother), she goes straight for the MC and that makes Q realize she fucked up when she enticed the MC on Maya, its not the sexual part that Q can easily out compete Maya but the emotions of the vulnerable Damsel and her white knight! check all her cluck interactions she is always deriding the MC by being a simp a whiteknight a sjw a snowflake!
Q let Maya under her skin and that made her do a mistake that may cost her the MC dick! its not Maya she can not forgive its her own stupidity!
we all know Quinn would always participate in the cumpeTITTIESeon and pick the MC and she would grind on him while staring down Maya, that was her plan, Maya refusing got her anger even higher! when after grinding on the MC and allowing him to "enter her" the MC still stands up to Quinn to defend Maya!
her b plan is also screwed if all else failed making her make out with an asshole like Tommy or a big dude like Jacob while Q toyed around with the MC to try and break the MC image of Maya the innocent virgin failed by the Jocks intervention! (just like the dildo game ep.4 when she finally did it)!
perhaps her revenge/blackmail of the jokes is because of that? (do remember Jacobs picture with Arieth happens in the same space where the MC is supposed to be fucking Sarah, or in my case did fuck Sarah)!
Q is a complex character but hell we know where she is coming from and that she wants the MC (and not just the MC dick, and this is the important part), that is why that "i see you" when she discovers that Sage is also competition sends shills down my spine!
the same rule can be applied to Lilly when the MC and Josy kiss, Lilly goes all out blabbering about passion showing everyone that that is what she wants!
her mother is not Q who as a sadistic trait? besides her "man" is Derek and its not like Sarah wants to fuck Derek much less lock him down!
if Ashley man was the MC i bet Sarah would be making Ashley life miserable, probably to not such an extreme point, Q is on a league of her own but still pretty sure it would be something disgusting in a sort of revenge that only girls seem to understand or have!
