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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Tadpol

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Bruno3 said:
Okay hold on, so i just wanna know if the MC is just sitting somewhere in a background reading his diary or something and telling us what happened every time we hear him speaking in 3rd person. Something like in the beginning of the game and the end of episode 7. Or hes just speaking his thoughts in his mind. Because every time i hear him now speaking like that it breaks the immersion for me because i have no clue if the MC already knows the end of the story and is telling us through it as we play.
Because some things he says at the moment he cannot possibly know so it makes me think its actually DPC who is narrating it through our MC
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I don't think the narration is made as if it was Grandpa MC telling his story.

What is not obvious here is that all the characters "think aloud". In a way, they are all narrators of the story. If it were a book, we would have a narrator outside the story who is in fact the writer.

It would give:

MC walks up to Jill and says, "I want you."

Jill blushes and responds, "I'm not ready MC."

MC walks away, frustrated, telling himself that once again he has just been blueballed.


In game, it is told with the images on which we paste the dialogues and the thoughts of Jill and the MC.
 
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Tadpol said:
I don't think the narration is made as if it was Grandpa MC telling his story.

What is not obvious here is that all the characters "think aloud". In a way, they are all narrators of the story. If it were a book, we would have a narrator outside the story who is in fact the writer.

It would give:

MC walks up to Jill and says, "I want you."

Jill blushes and responds, "I'm not ready MC."

MC walks away, frustrated, telling himself that once again he has just been blueballed.


In game, it is told with the images on which we paste the dialogues and the thoughts of Jill and the MC.
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Holy shit you are genious, i never thought of it like that. Just realizing its not just the MC who does this.
But still, that beginning of the game is kinda suspicious, i'll just keep beliving the MC doesnt know the end of his story and is just experiencing it now as we play together with him, for my own sake.
 
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Tadpol said:
I don't think the narration is made as if it was Grandpa MC telling his story.

What is not obvious here is that all the characters "think aloud".
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That is fairly obvious since the MC is not a mind reader. It's also confusing to some game players. Maybe he would have been better off not telling us what the other characters are thinking. Going between second person storytelling and third person thought is definitely an odd form of writing.
 
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Tadpol said:
I don't think the narration is made as if it was Grandpa MC telling his story.

What is not obvious here is that all the characters "think aloud". In a way, they are all narrators of the story. If it were a book, we would have a narrator outside the story who is in fact the writer.

It would give:

MC walks up to Jill and says, "I want you."

Jill blushes and responds, "I'm not ready MC."

MC walks away, frustrated, telling himself that once again he has just been blueballed.


In game, it is told with the images on which we paste the dialogues and the thoughts of Jill and the MC.
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However, apart from the opening of the game, which could also be just a stylistic choice, in the third chapter, in the scene in the library (one of the strangest in the game) with Bella it is clearly the MC "of the future" who speaks to us, an MC who, if not everything, knows a lot more than the current MC does


for the rest you are right, normally in the narration we know what the protagonists feel in the scene, and often we, the players, know things that Mc doesn't know and probably never will know
 
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Bruno3 said:
Okay hold on, so i just wanna know if the MC is just sitting somewhere in a background reading his diary or something and telling us what happened every time we hear him speaking in 3rd person. Something like in the beginning of the game and the end of episode 7. Or hes just speaking his thoughts in his mind. Because every time i hear him now speaking like that it breaks the immersion for me because i have no clue if the MC already knows the end of the story and is telling us through it as we play.
Because some things he says at the moment he cannot possibly know so it makes me think its actually DPC who is narrating it through our MC
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Or maybe someone else reading his diary? Like MC reading Lynette's diary.
 
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JETracktor said:
Or maybe someone else reading his diary? Like MC reading Lynette's diary.
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No that wouldnt make sense, if that is so then its literally a shit show, speaking from 2nd person to 3rd to 4th lmao
We never saw him writing his own diary tho
It would be a challenge to remember all those details, so i really dont know whats going on lol
 
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Trysexual said:
Going to see if I can play an entire game without the MC sticking his dick in anyone ...

Has anyone tried this?
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yes and if you fail all your tests and loose all your fights your MC commits suicide at the end of chapter 6! the end image is your legs dangling in front of a tree!
Bruno3 said:
Okay hold on, so i just wanna know if the MC is just sitting somewhere in a background reading his diary or something and telling us what happened every time we hear him speaking in 3rd person. Something like in the beginning of the game and the end of episode 7. Or hes just speaking his thoughts in his mind. Because every time i hear him now speaking like that it breaks the immersion for me because i have no clue if the MC already knows the end of the story and is telling us through it as we play.
Because some things he says at the moment he cannot possibly know so it makes me think its actually DPC who is narrating it through our MC
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someone already answered!

JETracktor said:
Or maybe someone else reading his diary? Like MC reading Lynette's diary.
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its Quinn reading to his daughter her father diary/story after he got stabbed to death in Christmas trying to protect her on a drug deal that went wrong! she is in a drug den breastfeeding!

and 18 years later a new game shows up "being a HOT" with the MC daughter with a footlong pussy and massive knockers entering the HOT sisterhood as a legacy student! her best friend being Tommy and Heather daughter and Magnar and Sally son is the new manwhore on campus!

Since Quinn is the one with more out of the MC earshot story it makes sense! the rest of the non reliable narrative can be attributed to what she remembers from the speech of people at his funeral!
 
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I don't know, DPC shows us at the start (and a few other times) that this is MC from sometime in the future telling us his story (which doesn't have to be all that far, we could catch up to "real time" in like episode 12 where's he's fucked everything up and then go and try and salvage what we can or something like that), but it's really not done well if that's what it's supposed to be. We clearly see things MC couldn't possibly know. Now there is a really simple explanation for that, MC could just be making shit up as he goes, but there is no indication whatsoever that he is going for unreliable narrator type of story.

There are other ways you could exploit that type of narration, i.e. bring another narrator in and show a different view of a particular event (people remember same things differently as we know), but we haven't seen any of that either.

DPC is a great writer and maybe he plans to actually do something with this in the future, but I'm leaning more toward the fact that he just thought it sounded cool to add those lines and went with it. He has ignored logic and flow of the story in certain parts in favor of stupid drama after all.
 
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