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bluehound36

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Yeah, I noticed that line in ep 7, it's even stupider than the original Patrick as co-signer. How could Maya co-sign a loan? She has no assets. Banks are not that stupid, they don't believe that they can squeeze blood from a stone.
It's not that they're stupid, so long as one of the co-signers has the money not to default on the loan and pay it off, has good credit, then lenders will typically go through with it. It's not always a good idea though cause if the student borrower defaults, then the person who co-signed with them will be legally liable which would explain patrick's threat to financially bankrupt maya in the long term. Not exactly the type of family one should ever get financial help from. He's basically a dickhead that needs curb stomped.
 

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In what country?:confused: That's just theft of private property. Now, perhaps, depending on location there could be laws against him being a peeping tom for seeing them naked. But there would actually have to be intent in that regard and since they caught him, he only saw them naked by accident since he was there to steal their private property. Oh don't forget, they also made him strip and they stole his clothes too. I find the whole thing just blatantly stupid to be honest cause the story is so hilariously absurd that it reminds me of films like fast times at ridgemont high and revenge of the nerds.
I am not talking about the law, wich i dont know exactly even in my country, i am talking about common sense. Is clear that to steal panties is not a common steal but there is a sexual move, and since is not consensual, and is violent and agressive, it has to be sexual harrasement. I know that the MC did not do it for sexual interest, but that doesnt change the nature of the act.
I didn't watch any of thoose films. BADIK was a shook for me, the fact that i could enjoy college humor stories was kind of wierd. But yeah, it's really funny., and kind of absurd sometimes.

Look men ! Everyone here just trying to show the flaws in maya character.

Let me ask you this way. If a girl grinding your cock middle of the night and you get electric teased in you head and mc learn that was the maya agree to do so !

Will you ever trust that persona again.

What is just everyone did, Is pointed out what she aslo have done but that doesn't mean we hate that character.

It's simply to understand her character better regarding your statement I don't think maya raped mc either.

Because when mc wake up maya put finger at his lips and mc stay quite so he agreed to sex part basically but not electric one okk.

Peace out ✌
This is the only time i agree with anything against Maya.
I was just saying that it wasn't rape, the MC start to push Maya pelvis down to her cock. So it's concensual. To be electrocuted is a different thing. But that was Quinn (and Sarah and Melanie), Maya sayd she even didnt knew that was going to happen, and i think she was saying the true. But i also think the MC was too quick to forgive her regardless, specially since he didn't knew Maya very well and didn't knew it was actually Quinn who did it.
I also think that maybe you dont hate that character, but others defenetely do. I undestand people who has reasonable complains against her. But when some people loose the point off what she is and what she represent in the story... and start to complain about thing she is not really guilty off... well at some point, yeah, they are haters.
Pece out for you as well.
 
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Could the owner of the Pink Rose be Vinny? Nick has literally begged the MC by SMS to work next time in the Pink Rose.
Maybe Nick also knows that the MC is Vinny's brother. Nick is always very friendly to the MC.:unsure:
Nick gonna do the same if MC is working with old folks. That's just opportunity to change the work.
 

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It's not that they're stupid, so long as one of the co-signers has the money not to default on the loan and pay it off, has good credit, then lenders will typically go through with it. It's not always a good idea though cause if the student borrower defaults, then the person who co-signed with them will be legally liable which would explain patrick's threat to financially bankrupt maya in the long term. Not exactly the type of family one should ever get financial help from. He's basically a dickhead that needs curb stomped.
Yeah but the point is Maya could never have co signed a loan. She's an 18 year old with 0 assets and no job.

This whole thing has been fucked up from the start, the government program is called Guaranteed Student Loans, you don't need a co signer because the government is your co signer. As initially presented in ep 6, Patrick was the co signer. This made no sense at all because the co signer has no control over the money. Even worse, with Patrick being the co signer Maya could have just walked away from the loan and left Patrick stuck with the bill. In fact, in most states, the bank sends the check directly to the college, the borrower never actually touches a single dollar. So Patrick never actually had any kind of leverage over Maya.

DPC could have learned all of this in 15 minutes of reading a Wikipedia article, but he's a big time Patreon Dev, he don't need no stinkin' Wikipedia. So in the last update he revealed that Maya was the co signer. This makes even less sense, Maya couldn't even co sign a loan for a pack of cigarette's. Also Maya was supposedly ignorant of all of this, despite the fact that she could have read a Wikipedia article, if she would just stop watching her damn movies for 15 minutes.
 
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And if Maya or Josy aren't actively controlling the MC by waving their pussies in his face and playing on his emotions, then how is Patrick controlling his adult daughter, who can tell him to fuck off and go and live her own life any way she chooses?
If we assume that Maya's father was controlling her all her life to a certain extent, controlling her friendships, her hobbies, her attempts at independence, etc, that leaves a mark on many people and believing that it is as easy as "tell him to fuck off "is very naive, you don't get courage out of nowhere and especially against someone who has had power over you for so long.
Again this is a guess, we need more information on how her childhood was to get something more conclusive.

Nobody has forced the MC to help them or hang out with them and they are not playing with his emotions, adolescents generally don't know what they want or are not very clear about their emotions this is nothing new or strange.
It seems to me like you are asking too much, as if you expect them to be super responsible adults who can easily get around their emotions and know how to solve problems that arise easily.
 
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Maya sayd she even didnt knew that was going to happen, and i think she was saying the true.
I believe that about as much as i believe in the tooth fairy. There is zero chance that she didn't know what was going to happen. Her entire role was to distract the MC so quinn and company could get him to the dik's mansion. She likely knew exactly what was going to happen and lied her ass off just to escape the consequences since she does like the MC in the story. That's guilt for you. Her character is one i fully trust to be a dishonest cunt when it comes to accepting responsibility of any kind. Instead of dealing with her issues, she's trying to find shortcuts (like free tuition from the hots) and it's blowing up in her face constantly. That is a person that apparently does not learn from mistakes and that's a sinking ship much like the titanic. Eventually she's going to hit rock bottom with that sort of behavior without someone constantly there to prop her up. That makes her a sympathetic character to some extent but unless her choices start to drastically change for the better, the MC is going to effectively be her verbal punching bag, shoulder to cry on and financial crutch if players choose her route (just my opinion from personal experience with such people that her character reminds me of). Don't get me wrong, her character has some nice moments but they are not redeeming for poor decision making ability. Yes, story wise, her father can obviously be held responsible for not teaching her the necessary life lessons on how to be a responsible adult but at some point after about 18, a person has to grow up and start making their own decisions to move away from any past trauma rather than continue to allow it to reinforce ill behavior patterns.
 
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Time to ask serious questions, who the hell is Tybalt's troll on Rooster? The guy is relentless and it's actually fucking funny lmao
I would say Rusty maybe but idk if he would try to mess with him that hard haha
It's Bella.
 

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Is there a Dik Mansion renovation guide? I have a guide that only do the first one but is there any more after 1st one? Thanks.
1. Buy all experience boosts (+5% to skills) except working at the beginning.
2. Buy full dumpster perk.
3. Use notes and calc to full clear the mansion before episode 7 (calc it, it's not so hard)
4. Send all folks to work when mansion is clear and all DIKs have high skills (buy working exp +5% for them)
5. ???
6. That's it
 
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Yeah but the point is Maya could never have co signed a loan. She's an 18 year old with 0 assets and no job.

This whole thing has been fucked up from the start, the government program is called Guaranteed Student Loans, you don't need a co signer because the government is your co signer. As initially presented in ep 6, Patrick was the co signer. This made no sense at all because the co signer has no control over the money. Even worse, with Patrick being the co signer Maya could have just walked away from the loan and left Patrick stuck with the bill. In fact, in most states, the bank sends the check directly to the college, the borrower never actually touches a single dollar. So Patrick never actually had any kind of leverage over Maya.

DPC could have learned all of this in 15 minutes of reading a Wikipedia article, but he's a big time Patreon Dev, he don't need no stinkin' Wikipedia. So in the last update he revealed that Maya was the co signer. This makes even less sense, Maya couldn't even co sign a loan for a pack of cigarette's. Also Maya was supposedly ignorant of all of this, despite the fact that she could have read a Wikipedia article, if she would just stop watching her damn movies for 15 minutes.
This whole plot makes me wonder where DPC is going with this and how is he going to solve it. Leaving aside whether it makes a lot of sense or not, I'm curious what DPC is going to come up with to fix it.
 

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Time to ask serious questions, who the hell is Tybalt's troll on Rooster? The guy is relentless and it's actually fucking funny lmao
I would say Rusty maybe but idk if he would try to mess with him that hard haha
I know he's a fairly new character, but I'm putting my money on Lucas. The poster has demonstrated fairly personal knowledge about Fruit Fucker's habits; For example, he knows where that watch was purchased. It's just a hunch that it's Lucas, but I like my odds.
 

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(just my opinion from personal experience with such people that her character reminds me of)
Ok, but here is the quid of the issue, Maya is not that people you mention. I am sure there are people like you described and they sure are a pain in the ass. And is also true that we read the stories from our own subjective view. And there is nothing wrong with that.
However if you want to make an analisis of a literary work, then you have to (at least try) to be objective, and that means to break with your own subjectivity. Ofc, I have my own subjectivity, thats why we are talking to find out our own mistakes.
But, most importantly Maya is not that people, better or worst she is her own person/character.

I believe that about as much as i believe in the tooth fairy. There is zero chance that she didn't know what was going to happen. Her entire role was to distract to the MC so quinn and company could get him to the dik's mansion. She likely knew exactly what was going to happen and lied her ass off just to escape the consequences since she does like the MC in the story.
She didn't knew Quinn was going to electrocute them, that's what she said, and that's what i believe. And yes, i think that kidnaping was the only real bad thing she did. But then again, it was the DIKs who plan it, and we are all cool with that. I don't find that kind of jokes tolerable, but it is a different culture than mine, where thoose kind of stupid and violent jokes are acceptable. And also Maya did it under some sort of pression. So, even if she did it, she is still a sweet girl, weak at best, but nothing else.

Her character is one i fully trust to be a dishonest cunt when it comes to accepting responsibility of any kind. Instead of dealing with her issues, she's trying to find shortcuts (like free tuition from the hots) and it's blowing up in her face constantly.
You are being exagereted. Again could describe well the people you mention, but not Maya. She doesn't know how to solve her problems, but it is not her fault. What do you expect? That a girl with no financial education, no money, and noone older to advise her solve a financial problem at 19 years old?. She didn't choose a shortcut, couse there was no longcut to choose from. She went for the only solution she could find. Besides that her main motivation is to have a good education in a fictitious world in wich most of the people want to have sex, get drunk and get high. Just compare her to her brother and tell me she is irresponsable and inmature. She is not more, she is just more unlucky.
And btw, since it seems that Sage is going to fix her issues, it kind of work out, somehow.

That is a person that apparently does not learn from mistakes and that's a sinking ship much like the titanic. Eventually she's going to hit rock bottom with that sort of behavior without someone constantly there to prop her up.
Wich mistake she did twice? She trusted her father, twice. But that's a hard topic. Most of people are inclined to seek for reconciliation with their parents. Is a complicate issue. Besides that?
She trusted Sage (it seems) when she promised free tuition. But again, without Sage she doesnt have any plan either, so...

Now, ofc, there is room for speculation here. Maya could be a different thing (like Leah in Acting Lessons). But untill now, we haven't seen that story. We saw a different one. A story in wich good people like MC, Josy, and now Sage sign with Maya and want to help her. A story in wich characters like Becky who misstreat her, are ridiculized. A story in wich the whole concept off "teach a man to fish..." has being ridiculized, a story in wich you have a climatic moment when you are meant to feel emotionally touch couse Sage wants to help Maya. And thats when it comes to obective analisis. It doesnt matter what we feel about her, couse is not our story (yet), not until is finished. Is DPC's one.
If you want to tell the story about an obnoxious selfish girl who make stupid mistakes because she lives in the moon, you can easily make it. Flaubert did it with Madam Bovary. And yet he then proclaim "I am Madam Bovary".
But this is a different one. It's a sexual fantasy about a guy who find a troubled girl, and he loves her for that.
 

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It's time for the first real status update for episode 8, and the development is ongoing.

This week, it's mostly been planning and writing. I've been writing a lot, as I've been in the zone.

I know what I want to fit into this episode, so I'm writing as much of the layout as possible to grasp the workload that lies ahead.

Episode 8 will be the episode that wraps up the second season, so I'm very excited about it and will do my best to do it justice.

Game crashes (v0.7.2)
I've been getting some reports about random "out of memory" crashes that I wanted to address. I hope the following information can help more players solve these issues.

If you're experiencing any "out of memory" crashes after patching the game to the latest version (v0.7.2), I would recommend that you delete the contents of the "game/cache" folder.

There are three ".rpyb" files there that you can safely delete. When you restart the game, the cache will be rebuilt, and this could solve your problem.

In the future, I will supply pre-built cache files with the patches.

Poll news
This week, I posted the first poll for episode 8, a cosmetic poll for Sage. Sign up as a $10 patron to participate in it .

I have planned several fun polls for episode 8, and I have also decided to change how the special render polls are conducted to get more balance in the special render sets.

At the moment, some girls have three render sets, whereas others only have one, and I'd like this to even out for the sake of the game.

I will reveal the details about how the new polls will look like as they are posted.

Walkthrough news
I've written the walkthrough, and proofreading is underway. I will release it as soon as possible, at the latest next Friday, but likely earlier.



Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake
 

felicemastronzo

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It's time for the first real status update for episode 8, and the development is ongoing.

This week, it's mostly been planning and writing. I've been writing a lot, as I've been in the zone.

I know what I want to fit into this episode, so I'm writing as much of the layout as possible to grasp the workload that lies ahead.

Episode 8 will be the episode that wraps up the second season, so I'm very excited about it and will do my best to do it justice.

Game crashes (v0.7.2)
I've been getting some reports about random "out of memory" crashes that I wanted to address. I hope the following information can help more players solve these issues.

If you're experiencing any "out of memory" crashes after patching the game to the latest version (v0.7.2), I would recommend that you delete the contents of the "game/cache" folder.

There are three ".rpyb" files there that you can safely delete. When you restart the game, the cache will be rebuilt, and this could solve your problem.

In the future, I will supply pre-built cache files with the patches.

Poll news
This week, I posted the first poll for episode 8, a cosmetic poll for Sage. Sign up as a $10 patron to participate in it .

I have planned several fun polls for episode 8, and I have also decided to change how the special render polls are conducted to get more balance in the special render sets.

At the moment, some girls have three render sets, whereas others only have one, and I'd like this to even out for the sake of the game.

I will reveal the details about how the new polls will look like as they are posted.

Walkthrough news
I've written the walkthrough, and proofreading is underway. I will release it as soon as possible, at the latest next Friday, but likely earlier.



Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake
maybe we'll find out about jealousy.... :unsure:
 
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