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sorco2003

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I do not understand how this is possible.

Maya is in last place because of DPC, who has always "written" her as a character who could hardly not arouse negative emotions (constantly insisting on the question of sincerity for example).

but Jill, apart from being objectively the most "wife material" of all, what other qualities would she have as a character?

bah...
That's exactly what I mean, all those who loved Jill for being wife material, had nothing to change their minds, even had more skin in the air....
 

Tadpol

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Did a favourite main girl poll a few weeks ago on reddit & this forum, lots of people voted and here are the results:
1. Sage (415 votes)
2. Jill (314 votes)
3. Bella (293 votes)
4. Josy (112 votes)
5. Maya (71 votes)
I am far from having the same tastes as the voters.

I would have put Jill last, by far.

Maya and Josy at the top, Sage too. And Bella a little behind.
 

felicemastronzo

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There's nothing toxic about Maya. :eek:
I have to be honest, in one of my first posts here in this thread I also defined Maya as a toxic friendship (and I wasn't referring to her night time appearance...). I said it as an exaggeration. I was referring in particular to how even in situations where in theory she was on the wrong side she always managed to find herself in the role of the one to be consoled.

two situations in particular:
1) the evening after the grinding, when she waits for Mc in her room to explain/apologize about the incident, first MC practically has to get every single word out of her and at the end she ends up venting on him for her family problems...
2) when she runs away after the reconciliation between Josy and her father, she is there for Josy but even in this situation she turns the situation around so that it becomes another moment when she can vent about her problems

toxic was surely an exaggerated term, but we can't deny that Maya represents a person who's really hard to be around, for everybody, for Mc, for Josy and also for Derek, as she herself admits in the end with Mc in the library in the sixth chapter, he met her in her worst moment but he still decided not to run away

then personally from chapter 6 onwards I started to appreciate her, she still has a long way to go though (and I would be grateful if she would stop explaining how loans work in Duckburg).

now I would probably, out of interest, put it in second place behind Sage
 
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Did a favourite main girl poll a few weeks ago on reddit & this forum, lots of people voted and here are the results:
1. Sage (415 votes)
2. Jill (314 votes)
3. Bella (293 votes)
4. Josy (112 votes)
5. Maya (71 votes)

What this shows is that DPC has done a great job with Sage especially, early on she wasn't very popular and people thought she lacked depth. Meanwhile Maya has declined a lot, hopefully there is better content for her soon. Jill and Bella are pretty consistently popular so unless there are bad surprises I think they will remain in the top 3
Without Quinn? Is this a joke?
 

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I have to be honest, in one of my first posts here in this thread I also defined Maya as a toxic friendship (and I wasn't referring to her night time appearance...). I said it as an exaggeration. I was referring in particular to how even in situations where in theory she was on the wrong side she always managed to find herself in the role of the one to be consoled.

two situations in particular:
1) the evening after the grinding, when she waits for Mc in her room to explain/apologize about the incident, first MC practically has to get every single word out of her and at the end she ends up venting on him for her family problems...
2) when she runs away after the reconciliation between Josy and her father, she is there for Josy but even in this situation she turns the situation around so that it becomes another moment when she can vent about her problems

toxic was surely an exaggerated term, but we can't deny that Maya represents a person who's really hard to be around, for everybody, for Mc, for Josy and also for Derek, as she herself admits in the end with Mc in the library in the sixth chapter, he met her in her worst moment but he still decided not to run away

then personally from chapter 6 onwards I started to appreciate her, she still has a long way to go though (and I would be grateful if she would stop explaining how loans work in Duckburg).

now I would probably, out of interest, put it in second place behind Sage
Dunno, only Quinn has it worse than Maya among the girls and while the past hardened Quinn, Maya isn't that strong. She is desperate and that's why she became easily manipulated so I forgave her for the shock treatment. Also I didn't mind her outburst about her family as it was her first completely honest moment with the mc where she didn't run away to avoid an unpleasant situation.

Maya needs someone like Josy and the mc (or both) in her life, because left alone she would just sit in her room moping about her complicated life.

Sage and Josy are my favorites, and I really like Maya, but I agree, she isn't there yet as she needs time to find herself and decide what the hell she wants. True when Josy and Maya are together they really make it hard to pick one between them and Sage. :D
 
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felicemastronzo

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Dunno, only Quinn has it worse than Maya among the girls and while the past hardened Quinn, Maya wasn't that strong. She is desperate and that's why she became easily manipulated so I forgave her for the shock treatment. Also I didn't mind her outburst about her family as it was her first completely honest moment with the mc where she didn't run away to avoid an unpleasant situation.

Maya needs someone like Josy and the mc (or both) in her life, because left alone she would just sit in her room moping about her complicated life.

Sage and Josy are my favorites, and I really like Maya, but I agree, she isn't there yet as she needs time to find herself and decide what the hell she wants. True when Josy and Maya are together they really make it hard to pick one between them and Sage. :D
but it is always MC who has to press her, otherwise she would have continued to hide even then.

when she meets him at the party the first thing she does is to ask him again to be helped, not even an attempt to apologize, that is a really incredible moment... in reality that for me would have been a point of no return
afterwards, when Mc arrives in the room also in that case it's always MC who has to press her, encourage her to talk, to tell the truth for once (a recurring theme every time the two of them talk, from the first time in front of the HOTs' house to the last one after the end of the scavenger hunt).


hi is there single route for maya and joey??
and why queen and rino or riano (japanese girl) are not main options its sucks
a glimpse of something but we are still far from a real solo route
 

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but it is always MC who has to press her, otherwise she would have continued to hide even then.

when she meets him at the party the first thing she does is to ask him again to be helped, not even an attempt to apologize, that is a really incredible moment... in reality that for me would have been a point of no return
afterwards, when Mc arrives in the room also in that case it's always MC who has to press her, encourage her to talk, to tell the truth for once (a recurring theme every time the two of them talk, from the first time in front of the HOTs' house to the last one after the end of the scavenger hunt).
She is introverted so she isn't that comfortable when it comes to being open about her feelings or basically anything. That's why I said she needs Josy or the mc around to press her else she would just hide in her shell forever. I was like that during my uni years, so pushing people away because being honest and facing stuff head on makes you uncomfortable and not realizing you hurt people around you unintentionally are just some of our basic skills.
 

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have you noticed Jaimie's yellow teeth? sometimes they even turn brown .. I don't know drugs very well but, shouldn't that be a sign of smokers too much? when we flirt with becky in the hall he is hanging out with riona .. and riona is a postwoman for quinn .. even the "hidden botany" sounds terrible .. he could be in vinny's business too and therefore be the traitor ..
Jam-Jam can't be traitor.
 

felicemastronzo

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She is introverted so she isn't that comfortable when it comes to being open about her feelings or basically anything. That's why I said she needs Josy or the mc around to press her else she would just hide in her shell forever. I was like that during my uni years, so pushing people away because being honest and facing stuff head on makes you uncomfortable and not realizing you hurt people around you unintentionally are just some of our basic skills.
in this case being introverted does not count as an excuse.

if you have to apologise, if you have to explain your behaviour, you have to do it, it doesn't even have to be others who ask you that, you just have to do it.

you cannot have the courage to ask for help again and not the courage to at least promise that there will be a clarification.
 

Hermith

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in this case being introverted does not count as an excuse.

if you have to apologise, if you have to explain your behaviour, you have to do it, it doesn't even have to be others who ask you that, you just have to do it.

you cannot have the courage to ask for help again and not the courage to at least promise that there will be a clarification.
If you remember that part when she asked for help, she was conflicted about it and hesitated for a moment. She knew she probably didn't deserve the help, but she was still desperate because of the tuition rumor. I don't think these parts are major character flaws. She is hurt and kinda selfish, but I just wanted to hug the hell out of her. :D
 

felicemastronzo

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If you remember that part when she asked for help, she was conflicted about it and hesitated for a moment. She knew she probably didn't deserve the help, but she was still desperate because of the tuition rumor. I don't think these parts are major character flaws. She is hurt and kinda selfish, but I just wanted to hug the hell out of her. :D
should she have asked him for help in a more brazen way? :unsure:
I don't think so...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Always too little too late
 
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but Jill, apart from being objectively the most "wife material" of all, what other qualities would she have as a character?
Gotta disagree and say that Sage is objectively the best waifu material. She comes from money like Jill but she's shown to be smart af, sexy af, horny af, and loyal af. Her power level is also dangerously high and any babies that she and MC have will be brawler world champs :WeSmart:
 

felicemastronzo

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Gotta disagree and say that Sage is objectively the best waifu material. She comes from money like Jill but she's shown to be smart af, sexy af, horny af, and loyal af. Her power level is also dangerously high and any babies that she and MC have will be brawler world champs :WeSmart:
Wife not Waifu :p:p:p

Sage may become one (she is my favourite), but for now she has done nothing but tell MC how she actually loves someone else, this puts her in second to last place as wife material, ahead of only Bella
 
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