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- Jan 9, 2021
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Hope for Bella..... As soon Jill gets serious with MC, Bella has a reason to stop being intimate with him, same as what happens when she finds out MC fiddled around with Cathy... Bella knows Jill well enough her morals and ideas of a perfect romance might be too big of a problem to even get into a relation with MC...
She is struggling with her own feelings, on the other hand she would hate to see Jill end up with Tybalt...
Mc ending up with JIll would probably mean an end to Bella's struggles...
Complicated characters usually don't work so well in the real world
They are great in any story though !
- May 17, 2020
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perhaps I have not explained myself well
I like Bella's journey very much, especially now that she has accelerated (from chapter 6 onwards). What I don't like, what the story leaves completely in the background, is the relationship between her and Jill, which is described as a very bad friendship.
at the beginning, because of the alcohol, she falls in love with Mc, but then that kiss reawakens a part of her that she had kept hidden for years, her guilt feelings come out, and in this situation pushing Mc towards Jill, even if selfish, makes sense.
It's not by chance that in that moment of the story DPC turns an innocent choice like going to thank Bella in the first step towards her relationship with MC.
Once Jill tells Bella how the date went well, how Mc seems like the right guy, Bella should avoid him like the plague, not take a sauna with him.
From then on Bella towards Jill is a big bitch, without any nuance.
The scene of the car breaking down because of Cathe is weird, but it's even weirder when, after "saving" Jill together, they go to Bella's house to fool around.
MC's a pig for courting both of them? okay, but Bella's no better.
It's one of those points where the story for me is so poorly written that it becomes an obligation to enjoy it to avoid being in a relationship with either of them.
but once Jill for the love of Mc decides to accept Tybalt's blackmail, how can Bella not consider it a serious relationship?Hope for Bella..... As soon Jill gets serious with MC, Bella has a reason to stop being intimate with him, same as what happens when she finds out MC fiddled around with Cathy... Bella knows Jill well enough her morals and ideas of a perfect romance might be too big of a problem to even get into a relation with MC...
She is struggling with her own feelings, on the other hand she would hate to see Jill end up with Tybalt...
Mc ending up with JIll would probably mean an end to Bella's struggles...
Complicated characters usually don't work so well in the real world
and having a date with Mc is supposed to help solidify Jill's relationship? every action she takes drives MC away from Jill, so much so that Mc's thoughts lead him to consider leaving Jill... not anything else
Bella doesn't have any treatment, she just sleeps at the DIKs. sure she used the super threatening look but I don't think it's an absolute guarantee that the rumour doesn't go to BR...
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First extract it in a folder, after that launch the game with the Delta sign pic called BaDIK.exe
The game is rather big, doubt you can launch this one in packed status....
- Jan 30, 2021
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umm no ... in my playthrough Jill says the date was ok he doesnt seem to be that interested in me
- May 17, 2020
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it means that you have behaved badly...I'm talking about in case Mc stays in the path of both Jill and Bella.
- Sep 20, 2018
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Well, RPs have never meant much in this game. So I wouldn't put much stock in them.
I do agree that MCs who go out of their way to avoid Sage completely shouldn't be given the opportunity to pursue her now. But I think that's more an indication we should never have had the opportunity to avoid her that completely in the first place.
It's pretty clear the game intends the LIs to be load-bearing plot elements in the story, and thus the MC needs a reason to at least care about each of them (even if not romantically). I think that's reasonable, but it does mean the game should be clear on that point. Don't pretend I can wash my hands of Sage if it's going to be vital that the MC be the sort of person Sage might call for emotional support after Chad breaks up with her.
I think this just comes down to DPC wanting to offer a lot of choices but not thinking through the full implications. I found it easy to make that sort of mistake in my brief career as a pen and paper game master, so it's not too surprising DPC might have bitten off more than he could chew in the earlier episodes. Hopefully he's learned his lesson.
(It would also help if the game would avoid antagonizing us with the actions of the LIs (*cough*ruined library in Episode 4*cough*), but that's a separate issue.)
It hasn't been that long in game since the incident with Cathy, and Bella is definitely not going to have this conversation in the library. The only time the MC and Bella interact in private between the end of Episode 5 (which is the first time she could have found the panties) and the shoe dropping in Episode 7 is when she helps the MC clean his room in Episode 6.I would be perfectly ok with Bella beeing pissed but as the game lets you think this is not a problem during two episode and then suddently backstab you for this, it's really lame.
If Bella had told me this just after the scene with Cathy, it would be fine.
And you say it's not a harem game, are you kidding me, the whole game constantly push you and worse force to to that direction for what , beeing able to backstab you later and make choices for you so you are pissed
I have made a first gameplay before by trying to reject all girls and you can't really, so if you want a girl you need to reject all others from start or you will get fucked up well in the end.
And by playing this way you give up to all the fun content in this game, so what's the point, playing an anoying game just to maybe have the girl you want in the end.
If Bella had found the panties by then, I agree she should have confronted the MC rather than have her lewd scene. But it's quite possible Bella hadn't found them yet, in which case the timeline fits. So I'll assume that's what happened unless we learn otherwise.
As for being forced to miss all the content with other girls, that's one way to look at it. The other is that this is an opportunity to add replay value. If you pursue both Cathy and Bella, you get a unique scene in that run. Yes, you can no longer pursue Bella (at least for now), but that's what other playthroughs are for.
But WTHI is doing precisely what you claim not to want: allow you to persist in a mistake it absolutely will hold against you down the line for a much longer time. If we had been able to smooth-talk our way out of this predicament with Bella, we'd just be kicking the can down the road until the next opportunity to get caught.
It's true that WtHI has some opportunities to bow out of a romance gracefully, but they're not all that common. So putting off the decision isn't guaranteed to give you an opportunity to avoid the consequences. (BaDIK only has such an option for M&J so far, but it's also much still fairly early in the story.)
Because she sees Cathy's panties as proof the MC is willing to sleep around without regard to a long term goal. Am I the only one who thinks this makes sense?
Bella rationalizes her relationship with the MC as - against all logic - having a chance to be more than just sex. She sees his courtship of Jill in the same light; as the thousands of jokes will attest, anyone pursuing Jill is clearly after something more than a quick lay. But Cathy is different. A long-term relationship between the MC and Cathy is even more doomed than a relationship between the MC and Bella, AND Bella has a much easier time recognizing that because her hormones aren't clouding her judgement (if anything, they're sharpening it via jealousy). That in turn makes it much easier for Bella to recognize just how unwise it is to fool around with the MC, and gives her the push needed to call it off.
As for why Bella doesn't break things off because of Jill, again, that seems pretty obvious: Bella's only human. She *knows* she should call this off in favor of Jill. She'll all but say that in some dialog choices. She just can't bring herself to do it because she really wants to be with the MC [well, that's the theory; I'm still not feeling it personally]. It would be *so* much easier for Bella if the MC broke things off himself, so she keeps putting off the decision in hopes she won't have to make it. Combine that with the fact that actually telling Jill what's going on is a complete non-starter (it would mean revealing something profoundly embarrassing about herself AND admitting what she had been doing to Jill), and Bella's basically stuck in a loop with no easy way out.
Of course this is only a temporary state of affairs. Eventually circumstances will force some sort of resolution, which is just what happened with the panties. But even if you make no move on Cathy, I imagine similar results will occur if Bella learns the MC has been having flings with other girls.
So to me the resolution to this situation may be unexpected, but it does not feel arbitrary. As I said before, we all knew there would eventually be consequences to fooling around, it seems silly to complain when said consequences finally bite you in the ass just because you weren't able to predict exactly when and where the bite was coming.
- Jan 30, 2021
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right you keep persuing Jill if
I'm talking about in case Mc stays in the path of both Jill and Bella.
MC just don't kiss her or shower with her and it will be enough. not that hard .
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- May 17, 2020
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for what reason? Cathe is not married, which makes a relationship with her much easier than a relationship with Bella, in any respect.
But then in your answer at the end you say what I say... Bella should break up with Mc right away for Jill, but she doesn't do it because of her weakness, because she's involved, instead she just takes the run in with Cathe to end a complicated relationship
ending things with Mc because of Cathe is an excuse for Bella not to have to face what she's doing behind Jill's back and behind her husband's back (if he's alive).
She chooses a lesser motive because she can't face the greater one.
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think i used torrent to download the game and never had issue
try torrent version . (goes faster then any host site anyway )
- May 14, 2017
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I really hope in next chapter, we can avoid Jill.. Like we really should tell her 'Im not interested in you' or something if you avoiding her path. But then I remember what DPC said before the game came out 'Some events will be forced for the sake of the story.' Its like Jill story. Where u can't say 'Im not interested in you'
In Episode 5, And again im not in her path. She even kiss you in Bella's house before you both sleep, and you can't avoid that kiss.(Also IDK if it because im playing with mod. That night kiss is forced right? Even if you not in her path?)
Like bro I just want to end up with Bella without big drama. Don't want to break Jill's heart. But knowing DPC.. Well..
In Episode 5, And again im not in her path. She even kiss you in Bella's house before you both sleep, and you can't avoid that kiss.(Also IDK if it because im playing with mod. That night kiss is forced right? Even if you not in her path?)
Like bro I just want to end up with Bella without big drama. Don't want to break Jill's heart. But knowing DPC.. Well..
- Feb 13, 2018
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I'm sorry, but you'll have to break Jill's heart and Bella will murder the mc for that. While the two of them make up they will burry the mc somewhere near Bella's late husband... "He wasn't right for any of us."
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you can do that if Bella doesnt likeMC. Jill will still protect MC from Tybalt and want to hang out .
she just cares for MC.
MC asked her out on the date not other way around .
edit my advice would be dont go for her RP . dont get -RP
dont kiss her or shower with her on the date . and when MC asks her out . choose "because Tybalt"
the game will note that .
- Jan 9, 2021
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Some problems only happen in the compressed versions, there may be some fixes somewhere in this thread but goodluck on finding them in nearly 7k pages...
Best bet for now is installing the full version of the game and the full version update, (and an updated walkthough/cheat mod if you happen to use that...) Atleast i have not had any problems with them so far...
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Well, still a better ending than GoT
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I mean, this is more realistic in a way. IMO Bella's been through a lot considering her age, and she herself knew that her relationship with MC was immoral and adulterous. My opinion is that she's been feeling unloved and unsatisfied for far too long, leading her to want to continue her relationship with MC although she knew that it was wrong, because she wanted to feel what she's been missing out on for so long.
Additionally, imagine the extra dialogue DPC would have to think of in the event you wanted to explain the situation to Bella. Imagine actually explaining yourself fucking another woman in a married woman's (who you're also having an affair with) personal car. Even after you explain yourself you'd still be ostracized by her too. This is more realistic in a way, rather than having Bella forgive you for fucking someone in her car. She probably has her limits too, and knows when they're crossed. IRL, unless you're madly in love with someone or just a pushover, something like this wouldn't go unpunished.
IKR? Before playing BaD I'd heard of The Friday Prophets but never really gave them a listen, but right after playing the game, Punk Rock Flu became one of my favourite songs. The voice and instrumental are incredibly enjoyable and fun, and Amsterdam is a great listen too.
I remember right after finishing my first run, I went on YT looking for the BaD soundtrack, and added them all to my playlist. Had Chukura's Lonely on repeat for a few days too. Kinda sad that Lonely and Absentrealities' "Three's A Crowd" aren't on Spotify, but hey, at least YT has 'em.
There're a few possibilities:
1. She had an internal conflict when she found out about it and was having an internal debate about what her next move should be.
2. She was thinking about the MC too much to notice a pair of panties lying in her car.
3. The panties were in her glove compartment and she didn't really have a reason to open them up until recently.
In any case, what's done is done, and Bella is off the radar if you've fucked Cathy
- Sep 20, 2018
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It's not either or, it's both and.
Bella is trying to rationalize a way to pursue the MC. Pursuing him at the same time as Jill is already stretching Bella's rationalization to its limit. No surprise that adding yet another factor that would need to be rationalized (like Cathy) is enough to bring the whole thing crashing down. Once her rationalization is broken, Bella is able to definitively call things off with the MC.
Absent Cathy, Bella is finally willing to commit to pursuing the MC (as shown by her removing her ring at the end of the episode). She's still not able to come clean to Jill, though, because that has a host of other problems attached to it (the big ones are admitting to seeing the MC behind Jill's back and having to deal with the forbidden nature of their relationship). But the matter is obviously not resolved, and further complications might force Bella to take action again.
As for Cathy being unmarried, that's not really relevant: Cathy can't have a relationship with a student whether she's single or not.
Bella's own marriage only matters because of her personal hang-ups. If Bella really is willing to enter into a relationship with the MC, there's plenty of time between now and when the MC graduates (or Bella transfers) to end what's left of her marriage. (Given what we've seen, she could almost certainly have already divorced James if she had been so inclined).
In theory, the same could be true with Cathy, it's just that it's a ludicrously implausible path to attempt. Bella can recognize how implausible it is when she sees it objectively with Cathy in a way that she couldn't see when looking at it from her own point of view.
That's how I see it, at any rate.
I mean, she knows that they aren't hers. She probably knows what kind of panties Jill wears, and knows that MC doesn't wear panties either (or this was one of her early guesses, idk). By process of elimination, the only remaining person who's been in her car is Cathy, and that was when the MC drove her home. As a functional human being, I believe she has enough brain to put two and two together and get the whole picture.
I'm hoping for this too. As a Sage main, I wanna get off Jill's route ASAP before she becomes overly attached to my MC and gets hurt when I break the news to her. The kissing in Bella's house was a choice IIRC, in the scene before where you could've chosen to take her hand or not. That choice was probably the catalyst for the make-out session. I wouldn't put my hopes too high for a solo Bella route, because that in itself seems like it's gonna take a lot of work to make sense of. I can already imagine the betrayal in Jill's eyes when she finds out her crush likes her best friend. Like, dude, god damn. That shit'll probably hurt like hell. DPC would have to prepare a plethora of different scenes just to have the whole scenario make sense IMO, else the quality of the story-telling and the game would just go down the drain.
However, I do think that there's a chance the Bella route would never actually happen, or would result in a bad ending. The reason is because back when MC first makes out with Bella, and she cries over it because she felt that it was wrong, there was a quick monologue where the MC just thinks something along the lines of "At the time, I couldn't understand why Bella was crying. Had I known what was going on in her mind, I wouldn't have done it." So this feels like some sort of a red flag.