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To be honest that just makes it worst for me. My issue isn’t her sexuality it’s her sexuality being whatever the plot needs it to be.
I wanna see Maya make a decision. Some form of a decision for reasons born of her. I wanna see her personality. I don’t wanna see more of her just being whatever the plot needs her to be.
So many of Maya’s decisions aren’t based on what she wants. It’s her reacting to the plot moving. You can never learn anything about her because she’s got fuck all to do with it.
She gets with Josy, like you said, because everyone else takes the wheel. We have little to no clue why she’s into Josy. Their relationship is hollow as fuck but she needs to be with her for a thruple route.
Oh but first she has to basically break up with Josy so her father bans them from talking and she just goes with it. There’s smatterings of Maya being rude on the phone but it never goes anywhere and they’re broken up entirely without any of Maya’s personality coming into it. They’re broken up because the plot demands it not because she did anything. They forgive each other in half a fucking second for cheating because 10 seconds later the plot needs them together for a thruple route. Again, no personality on show here. No opinions on cheating or reflection on their relationships just a kiss and the thruple is open for business.
They’re living together by chance so the plot could have the knock at the door but then they’re not living together because the plot needs Josy at the HoTs and boogie man Patrick might appear at any time. Not her decision and barely get a reaction.
She is sexual with the MC for plot reasons (the scavenger hunt) and she is dumb with money for plot reasons (daddy controls her loan). She’s basically in love with the MC but plot needs her to want it to be casual so… can’t act on those feelings (Josy succumbs to this too.)
We get flashes of her personality like movies or her being bullied at school but that is blown past for the next plot point. Maya has grown on me immensely but 90% of the shit she does tells us nothing about her because it’s just the plot moving things around her. She’s like the mute protagonist in a shit RPG just agreeing to collect 10 zebra hooves or fight off the dragon apocalypse because that’s what the plot demands. She never gets the choice to say no. An empty vessel to experience and move along a plot.
The 10% that isn’t that, I like… her just going with the flow and never actually influencing the plot I don’t.
After reading this, I'll never make fun of Josy anymore. Gotta respect your girl.
Play the game again, and try to pay more attention to it, because there is lots of misconception in this..
Maya is the Plot , and not Maya revolving around the Plot. And She is not whatever the plots need it to be her. She is a girl, who not even define herself as a lesbian, only just so far she did not have feelings toward guys, and we actually seeing this is a big deal for her when she start developing this toward the MC , Way before Josy arive. And Joining the Hots and everything that comes with it, is all her Decisions, for herself. Because she wants get out from her father's control.
The truth is that we have more than enough information about Maya, She has the most render and the most line, no character is as developed as she is , Everything with Maya is there from the beginning, from the very first episode. Another fact is that, MC and Maya together, is more developed than Josy and MC . If you have a sort off " Solo Maya" path, it's almost beautiful, an actual fucking relationship development, even in episode 5 its actual have more sense to folow Maya, and not Josy. Because of all the history and time that was invested to Maya. No , I respectfully disagree with everything you say. Is quite opposite, Josy is the one who is there for the Maya plot, or for the thruple plot. Visiting Maya in episode 7, bringing her a TV also has more sense, another deeper development between MC and Maya, from past experiences. Maya story could be very much the same without Josy. Control freak father, she wants to break away from, and thats it.
That is why , those who were invested in Maya from the get go, they where more upset with the Josy stuff, because they have to deal with her too when they did not wanted, and not vice versa.
We’re not talking about the same thing. Im not actually disagreeing with anything you’ve written.Play the game again, and try to pay more attention to it, because there is lots of misconception in this..
Maya is the Plot , and not Maya revolving around the Plot. And She is not whatever the plots need it to be her. That straight up stupid. She is a girl, who not even define herself as a lesbian, only just so far she did not have feelings toward guys, and we actually seeing this is a big deal for her when she start developing this toward the MC , Way before Josy arive. And Joining the Hots and everything that comes with it, is all her Decisions, for herself. Because she wants get out from her father's control.
The truth is that we have more than enough information about Maya, She has the most render and the most line, no character is as developed as she is , Everything with Maya is there from the beginning, from the very first episode. Another fact is that, MC and Maya together, is more developed than Josy and MC . If you have a sort off " Solo Maya" path, it's almost beautiful, an actual fucking relationship development, even in episode 5 its actual have more sense to folow Maya, and not Josy. Because of all the history and time that was invested to Maya. No , I respectfully disagree with everything you say. Is quite opposite, Josy is the one who is there for the Maya plot, or for the thruple plot. Visiting Maya in episode 7, bringing her a TV also has more sense, another deeper development between MC and Maya, from past experiences. Maya story could be very much the same without Josy. Control freak father, she wants to break away from, and thats it.
That is why , those who were invested in Maya from the get go, they where more upset with the Josy stuff, because they have to deal with her too when they did not wanted, and not vice versa.
Maya once told MC why she liked about Josy. She is sociable and cheerful, easily finds friends. Maya has problems with socialization and communicating with boys, and Josy was always with her, so Maya fell in love with Josy. This is understandable. Josy probably met Maya with help of Derek.Why are Maya and Josy together? They are together. Their relationship is a big part of the plot but what do we know about Maya’s personality due to them being together? What are their common interests? How did their relationship come about?
Ok, I concede on that one. I did forget that and it does tie into other aspects of her personality.Maya once told MC why she liked about Josy. She is sociable and cheerful, easily finds friends. Maya has problems with socialization and communicating with boys, and Josy was always with her, so Maya fell in love with Josy. This is understandable. Josy probably met Maya with help of Derek.
Everything you said, can be said about every other characters, there are so many "Why? this or that ?" - that at this point is basically nitpickingMaya is a big part of the plot. But we learn very little about her via that because a lot of her decisions are not born of her but of the plot. Just my opinion.
I believe that Maya will still show herself. Josy and MC move away from her. When she understands this, I think we should expect decisive actions from her.Ok, I concede on that one. I did forget that and it does tie into other aspects of her personality.
I still think she’s being misused. There’s way too much personality being propped up with “because daddy”. She could be 10 times the character she is if she just had more of her own reasons for doing things rather than basically just doing anything and everything to get out from under her father.
I know I’m coming across like I hate Maya. I don’t, I lament how much is missing because so much of her “whys” are just derived from contrived plot elements separate to her. I want to know how Maya would react sexually to the MC without the scavenger hunt (and by proxy her fathers control) driving her. I wanna know how Maya/Josy would interact without the fathers control being the reason it doesn’t work.
So much of what she does is because of that one plot element and it doesnt tell us much about her. See, your example is good. It’s a positive part of her character that ties into other aspect of her personality. Why couldn’t all my other examples do that? Why couldn’t they all have personal reasons for being done rather than “cus daddy”.
She’s carrying the plot and it’s weighing her down.
but didn't you have better things to do on a Saturday night?We’re not talking about the same thing. Im not actually disagreeing with anything you’ve written.
She is undeniably a big part of the plot but she doesn’t directly influence the plot all that much and because of that she doesn’t show her personality. My issue is with that. Unlike other girls she squanders 90% of her screen time not showing her personality because she’s just going along with the plot. There’s little explanation for her actions born of her. She does everything due to other reasons. Getting out from under her father and doing shit to that end tells us fuck all abojt her other than she wants to be out from under her father. That’s not a whole lot of personality. LGBTQ girl doesn’t wanna be around her Christian father who is controlling? Cool… tells us little about her because that’s kinda obvious. What’s next, she avoids bad weather and doesn’t eat yellow snow? This is my point. She is a part of the plot but her reason for doing shit is 9/10 nothing to do with her. We learn little from it.
Why are Maya and Josy together? They are together. Their relationship is a big part of the plot but what do we know about Maya’s personality due to them being together? What are their common interests? How did their relationship come about?
Why did they functionally break up? Their break up was a big part of the plot. What did we learn about Maya from that? Why didn’t they work? How did she react? There’s smatterings about them being rude on the phone and her being distant but we didn’t learn anything. Just like when they got back together. That basically happened off camera. Was that “I give a big diarrhoea shit about you” talk them getting back together? Did they discuss the functional breakup? Their behaviour? We know what they did we don’t learn much about Maya as a character. Did they discuss the MC? He stormed out of the room… did they discuss that? At all?
We know she needs money to get out from under her father. Fine, we can assume she doesn’t like living under his thumb. What decisions left her still under his thumb? Her father controlling her is a big part of the plot but what do we learn about her from this? She just is under his thumb. He controls some arbitrary debt.
Her sexuality changes so often. Compared to other girls she rarely discusses her feelings on sex. She does it because the plot comes up with reasons for it. She doesn’t have to want to be with the MC (she obviously does) but the groundwork is laid elsewhere. It comes back to the same dry explanation of “cus my dad”.
I don’t dispute her being an important part of the plot I’m saying there’s gaping holes in her personality being fleshed out by the plot. A lot of her “whys” for her behaviour are entirely separate from her. Unlike sage/Bella/Jill… and I avoided roping Josy in because she’s almost as bad as Maya.
Maya is a big part of the plot. But we learn very little about her via that because a lot of her decisions are not born of her but of the plot. Just my opinion.
which are differences between the two girls, not commonalities.Maya once told MC why she liked about Josy. She is sociable and cheerful, easily finds friends. Maya has problems with socialization and communicating with boys, and Josy was always with her, so Maya fell in love with Josy. This is understandable. Josy probably met Maya with help of Derek.
girls in porn games are not saints, fortunately.Are you saying deep down she's a hoe waiting to come out?
For me as an introvert Maya decisions make a lot of sense. She is like an onion you have to peel her back a layer at a time. Maya might keep a lot inside but you do peel back those layers to her. It easy enough to learn everything you need know about from what she tells you and her actions around Josy, Dreek, Father, and others. Sure there are things we don't but they haven't been made important up to this point of course I could had miss something.We’re not talking about the same thing. Im not actually disagreeing with anything you’ve written.
She is undeniably a big part of the plot but she doesn’t directly influence the plot all that much and because of that she doesn’t show her personality. My issue is with that. Unlike other girls she squanders 90% of her screen time not showing her personality because she’s just going along with the plot. There’s little explanation for her actions born of her. She does everything due to other reasons. Getting out from under her father and doing shit to that end tells us fuck all abojt her other than she wants to be out from under her father. That’s not a whole lot of personality. LGBTQ girl doesn’t wanna be around her Christian father who is controlling? Cool… tells us little about her because that’s kinda obvious. What’s next, she avoids bad weather and doesn’t eat yellow snow? This is my point. She is a part of the plot but her reason for doing shit is 9/10 nothing to do with her. We learn little from it.
Why are Maya and Josy together? They are together. Their relationship is a big part of the plot but what do we know about Maya’s personality due to them being together? What are their common interests? How did their relationship come about?
Why did they functionally break up? Their break up was a big part of the plot. What did we learn about Maya from that? Why didn’t they work? How did she react? There’s smatterings about them being rude on the phone and her being distant but we didn’t learn anything. Just like when they got back together. That basically happened off camera. Was that “I give a big diarrhoea shit about you” talk them getting back together? Did they discuss the functional breakup? Their behaviour? We know what they did we don’t learn much about Maya as a character. Did they discuss the MC? He stormed out of the room… did they discuss that? At all?
We know she needs money to get out from under her father. Fine, we can assume she doesn’t like living under his thumb. What decisions left her still under his thumb? Her father controlling her is a big part of the plot but what do we learn about her from this? She just is under his thumb. He controls some arbitrary debt.
Her sexuality changes so often. Compared to other girls she rarely discusses her feelings on sex. She does it because the plot comes up with reasons for it. She doesn’t have to want to be with the MC (she obviously does) but the groundwork is laid elsewhere. It comes back to the same dry explanation of “cus my dad”.
I don’t dispute her being an important part of the plot I’m saying there’s gaping holes in her personality being fleshed out by the plot. A lot of her “whys” for her behaviour are entirely separate from her. Unlike sage/Bella/Jill… and I avoided roping Josy in because she’s almost as bad as Maya.
Maya is a big part of the plot. But we learn very little about her via that because a lot of her decisions are not born of her but of the plot. Just my opinion.
It is not a "error" the game is telling you that Sage is the correct decisionWhen I choose Jill's route I get an error. Can somebody help me?
do not cheatWe don't have to imagine, We know.
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Unfortunately, while the сhoises on Sage's routes do not affect the relationship with her. We know practically nothing about her. Well, except that she suffers from a Chad.It is not a "error" the game is telling you that Sage is the correct decision
I can. Watching a movie with pizza or playing with a dildo.which are differences between the two girls, not commonalities.
OK opposites attract....
Josy goes to the BR hoping to get into the HOTs, Maya if she could would have avoided them like the plague.
can you imagine Maya and Josy's ideal evening being similar? not me
I always have this question, is this supposed to have happened a year before the first episode? So Maya and Josy are 19 years old? or 18? because if they are currently 18 then we are seeing two minors having sexWe don't have to imagine, We know.
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the only movie Josy has seen so far is the one on movie night at HOTs. maybe , but maybe notUnfortunately, while the сhoises on Sage's routes do not affect the relationship with her. We know practically nothing about her. Well, except that she suffers from a Chad.
I can. Watching a movie with pizza or playing with a dildo.
do not cheat
That's their peak, we wouldn't want them to be unwell even in their first, and probably only, moment of freedom.
For Josy to watch a movie in her room would be a great night?
And for Maya, a party at the HOTs? Even without Quinn?
Let's just say they don't give me that impression.![]()