Theories are fun. Especially when the update comes out 2 times a year. I wonder if we will guess something either from the semi-annual theories. And in general, have you guessed at least once?
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I definitely got caught out with Maya and Josy, but the Chad/Troy things was more of a case of just hurry up and get them out of the closet, pretty much everyone here knew.
The only thing with Sage is when Jacob cockblocks the mc when he's about to fuck Sage in front of everyone, Jacob says:
Jacob: "For one, it will reach Chad before sunrise."
Jacob: "And secondly, it will reach-"
And it's that second line that's got minds reeling.
But it's pretty much just Dalli making out that everyone knew everyone before. The rest of us are just worried about Riona dying.
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I only started regularly posting here since March 2021 but I remember some people correctly guessed Chad/Troy, Josy/Maya & Jill being a Royce. Altough there are many crazy theories that is now obsolete & proven wrong (anyone remember Jacob x Josy? lmao)
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I actually covered this here. Considering the situation painted.......Lads are we over-analyzing Quinn scenes? Strap in
The 8 ball is very interesting in the context of the rain scene for a couple reasons. The rain scene itself is maybe the most important Quinn scene in the game so far, if there ever is a Quinn LI path then I'd consider the rain scene to be the actual start of it. So nothing in this scene can be overlooked as far as symbolism and foreshadowing of Quinn's story and character go.
Now when Quinn is left alone at the start of the scene, she kneels down and takes the 8 ball out of a box. We see similar boxes being used when the MC is cleaning up the junk in the room, so I'm pretty sure the 8 ball isn't MC's personal property. We know that the room was previously Vinny's, and we also know from the story and from screenshots posted in this thread that Quinn knew Vinny.
Did the 8 ball belong to Vinny because it was in the room? I think that's very likely, unless the 8 ball belongs to the MC and I missed that.
Assuming the 8 ball is Vinny's, did Quinn recognize the 8 ball as belonging to Vinny, just like she did the room, and pick it up for that reason? Maybe. If Quinn has seen or used the 8 ball in the past, it could be somehow related to her relationship with Vinny that we'll receive information of in the future. For now all I can say is that if the 8 ball is Vinny's, then it's possible that Quinn recognized it because of her connection to Vinny and the message that appeared has some significance between them. As a wild example, maybe at some point in the past Quinn was in Vinny's room and asked the 8 ball about something important to her at the time. Seeing the same 'don't count on it' message reminds Quinn that nothing has really changed and she's still on her shit trajectory and she drops it back into the box.
Again, this is wild speculation based on not much but what else are we here for than to be wrong about all our predictions
Now with all that aside, let's consider the significance of the 'don't count on it' answer.
When Quinn picks up the 8 ball, the 'don't count on it' message fades in. We don't actually know if she asked the 8 ball a specific question, or if she shook it at all, so the significance of the 8 ball's answer to Quinn and how she took it could mean anything. But it's pretty clear from the context of the scene that this is being shown for a reason, because the scene is so important to Quinn's character, so it's unlikely it was thrown in there for no reason. That's purely meta knowledge of the narrative though, so it's more interesting to analyze the mood of the scene and characters to see if there's something there to be gleaned about Quinn.
Quinn had just been robbed, beaten up, and was in deep shit for losing the drugs. As the MC says, in that moment, Quinn looks 'defeated'. So if she did ask the 8 ball a question, it was probably something along the lines of 'could this shitty day get any worse?' The answer is pretty predictable to that. I think it's telling that when she sees the 'don't count on it' answer, she doesn't set the ball back down, she just drops it into the box, like she already knew the answer and didn't care anymore.
But it doesn't actually matter if Quinn asked the 8 ball a specific question. The mere fact that the answer came up negative, like everything else in her life, is enough to convey the themes of Quinn's character in the scene.
Don't count on it. Don't count on anything. Don't count on anyone. That's exactly Quinn's philosophy, like Pendrell mentioned. Quinn has never had anything or anyone to count on in her life. She comes from a broken home full of drugs and abuse, she learned how to use others and be used by them, she doesn't expect any different even from her 'friends'. Then, in the rain scene, the MC does something selfless for her, without expecting anything in return, and she doesn't understand it. She's even hostile to it. She expects, and forces, every relationship and friendship she has to be transactional. Every favor, transactional. Every sexual act, transactional. Now that we're seeing that line of thinking being broken as the MC and Quinn get closer, with Quinn actively doing and allowing things (kissing, blowjobs, etc.) that she usually doesn't do, not for her own gain but to make someone else happy, she's starting to develop doubts about her philosophy and the things she's doing. We can see this in the final slides of the episode where Quinn looks up at the coke if you're on her 'path'.
So tl;dr on the 8 ball question, I don't think the 'don't count on it' answer is necessarily a self-contained hidden message or clue, unless it's somehow related to Vinny. I think Quinn's interaction with the 8 ball is part of the wider themes at play in the rain scene, with 'don't count on it' establishing the fact that Quinn has a particular way of seeing things, that the MC ultimately challenges by being someone she can actually count on.
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Regardless of my feelings on the 2D art, I did choose one to hang in my room instead of leaving the canvas blank. It makes me wonder, though. If Jill ever accompanies me to the DIK house, what will she say when she sees it?
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The things with the theories that turn out to be real is that DPC provided fucking heaps of evidence, like Chad and Troy being together. Here are two separate posts that I collated all the evidence:
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-7-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-4641649
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-7-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-4580459
That's very different to Dalli's theories where he sees two words in two separate scenes and just randomly links them together and invents all the evidence. Once in a blue moon he gets something right, but just like the proverbial broken watch, you can't always be wrong.
And then there was that persistent Auntie Jill theory in spite of all the evidence against it.
But I get your overall sentiment against all these family relationship theories. Sure the theme of the game actually is family, but it's about making a new family with your close friends, not about everyone actually being related.
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Fuck, I never even thought about the eastern wing thingy. I got involved here too late I guessThe things with the theories that turn out to be real is that DPC provided fucking heaps of evidence, like Chad and Troy being together. Here are two separate posts that I collated all the evidence:
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-7-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-4641649
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-7-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-4580459
That's very different to Dalli's theories where he sees two words in two separate scenes and just randomly links them together and invents all the evidence. Once in a blue moon he gets something right, but just like the proverbial broken watch, you can't always be wrong.
And then there was that persistent Auntie Jill theory in spite of all the evidence against it.
But I get your overall sentiment against all these family relationship theories. Sure the theme of the game actually is family, but it's about making a new family with your close friends, not about everyone actually being related.
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And what do you people think about the "going out with a big bang" in episode 8
DPC stated that himself and also that there will be a "difficult decision" to be made. Could it be choosing between Jill and Bella?
Personally i think that would be a big one also since they are very close to eachother.
DPC stated that himself and also that there will be a "difficult decision" to be made. Could it be choosing between Jill and Bella?
Personally i think that would be a big one also since they are very close to eachother.
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I'm actually happy that Lily washed her head. Just compare
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It's fucking terrifying. Up until ep 7, the narrative pretty much had the girls accepting the relationship with the mc was open, and that jealousy would be expected, and that they're not in a deep relationship.
But that came crashing down when Bella kicked the mc to the curb after the Cathy incident.
So crunch time may be upon us for more than one mutually exclusive relationship.
A Jill and Bella split seems obvious, and it'll be dramatic as fuck given how close those two are.
Also a Maya and Josy split could be on the cards for the solo seekers.
Could shit get ugly between Sage and Quinn? After Quinn was so uncomfortable with Riona during the Sage garden fuck, she may start to realise she doesn't like sharing unless she's making a profit.
Since Jill found out that half the school knows what the mc's erect cock looks like, I think she's not about to "give it away" unless she has assurances that it will be exclusive.
So yeah, could get ugly. The best option is a Halloween party where everyone wears masks and the mc can fuck everything that moves with impunity... yeah, that's gonna end in tears...
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It was fun to watch them try to dismantle that theory. But it is something cyclical, I think that today we are losing the most debatable theories because the game has advanced enough to limit a lot what can be "flown".
Lynnete's diary, Zoe yes or no, the rest already brings pausible theories that were debated some time ago, some with consensus, others with pure discussion.
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I think that's a given even if you're not a solo seeker there are already some cracks appearing it's the only place their story can go. Josy own her own has nothing going on story wise it's all linked into Maya's Dad issues and tuition
The official guide seemed a bit vague on this aspect whether or not Bella is really over. It just says "Bella will reject you during this scene" not your journey with Bella is over, like the Maya & Josy choice made it abundantly clear it's over with them if you're rejected.
Her personality kinda changed a bit when it comes to sex too. Episode 5 she wasn't overly interested and actually will make you pay if you're a DIK but in episode 7 suddenly she's like "wow you have a howitzer"
like what? Did she forget MC was forced to pay for it earlier hahaSage's dad was just the obnoxious guy with the topknot at the party. It's incredibly obvious, anyone posting otherwise is just obsessed with incest like the rest of F95 is.
Question regarding intended LIs for the MC: If you look at modded versions of the game, the LIs or those with whom relationship points are possible include Josy, Maya, Jill, Bella, Sage. They don’t include Zoey(?), Quinn, Cathy, whatever the Dean’s wife’s name is, Envy, etc, etc. Is this a mod call, or is there something coded within the game itself that doesn’t track this for the other characters?
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Not James, but Magnar. You know, the second biggest guy on the campus after Caleb.She's gonna take off her dress to give James the time of his life as a welcome present?
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The most ridiculous one was that John Boy is Jade and Stephen's son and Tybalt's brother and it's based on the detail that his initials are J.B.
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i guess you forgot Bella´s number 1 student who quoted her verbatim to Tommy´s girl heather "boobs are empowering, use them for your power plays!" or something along those lines! since she has to deal with all sort of male dweebs nerds and so forth like Stephen Burke her dressing in her work environment is a kind of Armour she wears to keep all those who would challenge her out of balance (mainly because they have their blood diverted from their head to their other head that shifts their center of gravity)!I want to see Jill angry. Show some passion and fight for the guy you want! It should make her think about her situation. She is on a date with a dude she doesn't like while the man she does like is sitting across from a pretty lady. Take action woman! You have already seen flashes of Bella and MC hitting it off. Even naive Jill should know something will happen if she doesn't pick up the pace. BTW, although Bella's dress is pretty, I think it's funny that she dresses sluttier and shows more cleavage at her job...as a school librarian...than at the local pizzeria.
i do not believe you understand NTR! it only happens if you love a girl! your wife can cuck you and not be NTR if you do not love her, and the girl for whom you got a crush but were never brave enough to even talk to her can NTR your ass with her legit boyfriend! it always comes from the heart of the observer if its NTR or not and how hard it hits you is dependent on how much love you have for a girl (or dude we do not discriminate around here!)What you always have with your NTR. Also, it wouldn't be an NTR because Zoey and the MC were no longer in a relationship.
Also, if you read my post correctly, there is a possibility that Zoey is and remains just a good friend.
Also, I never wrote anything about Side Girl. Not even Mona was a side girl and the MC could still fuck her.
This post of yours is really weak.
i was gonna call him out on that but i assumed it would be better if you did it!You agree? The theory has been around for a long time. Guess from whom?
you are probably right! but they live in the same town and are roughly the same age!
i always found it wierd that Josy and the MC only got acquainted with each other at work... i just over write it as Josy living in the same city as Maya and Derek and moving out after the Maya crushing and terrible coming out to her family party! so Josy went to live with her father to get out of maya´s vicinity and stop causing her problems!
thats because in ep.5 she had nothing to gain but after joining the HOT`s she understands that there is a path to power!Her personality kinda changed a bit when it comes to sex too. Episode 5 she wasn't overly interested and actually will make you pay if you're a DIK but in episode 7 suddenly she's like "wow you have a howitzer"
so the MC is still paying the difference is the MC will pay charisma and status by going around with her and be one of the all important steps into power!
the rolling with me conversation is very important!
furthermore after she got her pieces in action she called someone to report in!
either her mother to tell her she found a nice dude or her handler to tell her everything is going according to plan and she expects to have the hot house secured by the end of the semester!
If she wishes to become an important figure in College she needs girls to envy her! money is not an issue her social position is so a hot boyfriend that is in all manners and forms prez of the dik´s except in name will give her the clout to get her position!
also greek presidents tend to have special scholarships so .... maya tuiton problem could be solved if she took over the HOT`s!
or the simp MC can become the DIK`s president for real and can use that scholarship to pay for her tuition?
i admit not my brightest moment! but hey it was my 3rd post on this forum!
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Naah I believe they just fuckable characters and not LIS so u don't need a point system for them
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Great post. I like the idea that it could be another potential call-back to something Vinny-related.Lads are we over-analyzing Quinn scenes? Strap in
The 8 ball is very interesting in the context of the rain scene for a couple reasons. The rain scene itself is maybe the most important Quinn scene in the game so far, if there ever is a Quinn LI path then I'd consider the rain scene to be the actual start of it. So nothing in this scene can be overlooked as far as symbolism and foreshadowing of Quinn's story and character go.
Now when Quinn is left alone at the start of the scene, she kneels down and takes the 8 ball out of a box. We see similar boxes being used when the MC is cleaning up the junk in the room, so I'm pretty sure the 8 ball isn't MC's personal property. We know that the room was previously Vinny's, and we also know from the story and from screenshots posted in this thread that Quinn knew Vinny.
Did the 8 ball belong to Vinny because it was in the room? I think that's very likely, unless the 8 ball belongs to the MC and I missed that.
Assuming the 8 ball is Vinny's, did Quinn recognize the 8 ball as belonging to Vinny, just like she did the room, and pick it up for that reason? Maybe. If Quinn has seen or used the 8 ball in the past, it could be somehow related to her relationship with Vinny that we'll receive information of in the future. For now all I can say is that if the 8 ball is Vinny's, then it's possible that Quinn recognized it because of her connection to Vinny and the message that appeared has some significance between them. As a wild example, maybe at some point in the past Quinn was in Vinny's room and asked the 8 ball about something important to her at the time. Seeing the same 'don't count on it' message reminds Quinn that nothing has really changed and she's still on her shit trajectory and she drops it back into the box.
Again, this is wild speculation based on not much but what else are we here for than to be wrong about all our predictions
Now with all that aside, let's consider the significance of the 'don't count on it' answer.
When Quinn picks up the 8 ball, the 'don't count on it' message fades in. We don't actually know if she asked the 8 ball a specific question, or if she shook it at all, so the significance of the 8 ball's answer to Quinn and how she took it could mean anything. But it's pretty clear from the context of the scene that this is being shown for a reason, because the scene is so important to Quinn's character, so it's unlikely it was thrown in there for no reason. That's purely meta knowledge of the narrative though, so it's more interesting to analyze the mood of the scene and characters to see if there's something there to be gleaned about Quinn.
Quinn had just been robbed, beaten up, and was in deep shit for losing the drugs. As the MC says, in that moment, Quinn looks 'defeated'. So if she did ask the 8 ball a question, it was probably something along the lines of 'could this shitty day get any worse?' The answer is pretty predictable to that. I think it's telling that when she sees the 'don't count on it' answer, she doesn't set the ball back down, she just drops it into the box, like she already knew the answer and didn't care anymore.
But it doesn't actually matter if Quinn asked the 8 ball a specific question. The mere fact that the answer came up negative, like everything else in her life, is enough to convey the themes of Quinn's character in the scene.
Don't count on it. Don't count on anything. Don't count on anyone. That's exactly Quinn's philosophy, like Pendrell mentioned. Quinn has never had anything or anyone to count on in her life. She comes from a broken home full of drugs and abuse, she learned how to use others and be used by them, she doesn't expect any different even from her 'friends'. Then, in the rain scene, the MC does something selfless for her, without expecting anything in return, and she doesn't understand it. She's even hostile to it. She expects, and forces, every relationship and friendship she has to be transactional. Every favor, transactional. Every sexual act, transactional. Now that we're seeing that line of thinking being broken as the MC and Quinn get closer, with Quinn actively doing and allowing things (kissing, blowjobs, etc.) that she usually doesn't do, not for her own gain but to make someone else happy, she's starting to develop doubts about her philosophy and the things she's doing. We can see this in the final slides of the episode where Quinn looks up at the coke if you're on her 'path'.
So tl;dr on the 8 ball question, I don't think the 'don't count on it' answer is necessarily a self-contained hidden message or clue, unless it's somehow related to Vinny. I think Quinn's interaction with the 8 ball is part of the wider themes at play in the rain scene, with 'don't count on it' establishing the fact that Quinn has a particular way of seeing things, that the MC ultimately challenges by being someone she can actually count on.
The exact nature of the Quinn/Vinny dynamic - in the past and now - is one of the mysteries that I'm most looking forward to seeing resolved at some point. You picked out a number of the hints that there is/was something there between them - she recognises that MC got Vinny's room, the flashback to the Tommy/Vinny argument with Quinn in the background etc. There's also another couple of lines that Quinn has in episode 6, first to Buddy when she's clearly aware of where Vinny is now ("Vinny doesn't deal to the same crowd I do"), and then later in the garden when she's adamant that Vinny didn't tell anyone about Riona's involvement. All this could just amount to a "professional" association, given they're both in the same trade, or it could be something more. The line to Riona always stuck out to me because, if we take it at face value and not just as some words to appease a panicky Riona, it suggests Quinn knows Vinny's character, and that he wouldn't talk - which hints at a closer relationship.
