D2M3

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People keep saying that, but he has absolutely no incentive to do it. Anyway, we'll wait. We'll complain, but we'll wait (this game's already been going for almost three years anyway, what's another bunch of years gonna hurt?)
The incentive should be people like me, i.e. people who do not participate in Patreon model, and buy the game only on releases on Steam.

If his dev time stretches on even more, rational consumer behaviour theory dictates that more people to switch to my model, rather than Patron model.
 

JamieSadistic

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The incentive should be people like me, i.e. people who do not participate in Patreon model, and buy the game only on releases on Steam.

If his dev time stretches on even more, rational consumer behaviour theory dictates that more people to switch to my model, rather than Patron model.
I'm not too familiar with Steam but don't you have to wait for an entire season to be completed before being able to get it on Steam? That seems like the wait would be even more tedious.
 

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I'm not too familiar with Steam but don't you have to wait for an entire season to be completed before being able to get it on Steam? That seems like the wait would be even more tedious.
For BaD so far yes but Steam have the option Early Access but as it would be a dlc (or a dlc of dlc for season3) i'm not sure it would work
 
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shazba

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The incentive should be people like me, i.e. people who do not participate in Patreon model, and buy the game only on releases on Steam.

If his dev time stretches on even more, rational consumer behaviour theory dictates that more people to switch to my model, rather than Patron model.
I'm not too familiar with Steam but don't you have to wait for an entire season to be completed before being able to get it on Steam? That seems like the wait would be even more tedious.
If Icstor could maintain his Patreon base for years while doing nothing, DPC who consistently delivers high quality and high quantity releases shouldn't have any problem.

Many of his Patreon's are probably on the $1 tier all year round and just go to the $5 tier each time an update is released. That's $20 a year for two very substantial releases (or $10 per episode).

Is it worth it? That's up to them. But $20 a year isn't going to break most people's bank.

It's obviously cheaper buying it from Steam, at $14 a season ($3.50 an episode), but then you have to wait 2 years between releases instead of 6 months.

DPC is very driven, but he's also very rigid. He picks up on some minor suggestions, but he's not about to change how he operates when he's pulling in, at a bare minimum, $270K a year (assuming every single Patron is opting for the cheapest option - which they aren't, and discounting any Steam sales - he's surely clearing $300K).

So no, he doesn't have any incentive to compromise what he wants to deliver by reducing content, or hiring others (which would significantly eat into his bottom line).

Plenty of other great games here are taking just as long, or longer, to deliver less. Of course there are others that are releasing more frequently, but it's not even worth comparing the quantity or quality of those releases.

Personally I believe DPC is doing a phenomenal job. I believe he has a vision, and he is consistently delivering on that vision. If he could deliver the exact same product in a shorter time, and it doesn't cost him more money, and it doesn't result in his wife having an affair due to neglect, and it doesn't result in him dying prematurely, I'm sure he would.

But if he has to compromise on the product, or lose revenue, or it results in depravation of family time, or it drives him to an early grave, I'm happy to wait for however long it takes for the next episode and given the consistent rise in his patron count, I think most of his supporters are happy to wait too.
 

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If Icstor.....
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could maintain his Patreon base for years while doing nothing, DPC who consistently delivers high quality and high quantity releases shouldn't have any problem.

Many of his Patreon's are probably on the $1 tier all year round and just go to the $5 tier each time an update is released. That's $20 a year for two very substantial releases (or $10 per episode).

Is it worth it? That's up to them. But $20 a year isn't going to break most people's bank.

It's obviously cheaper buying it from Steam, at $14 a season ($3.50 an episode), but then you have to wait 2 years between releases instead of 6 months.

DPC is very driven, but he's also very rigid. He picks up on some minor suggestions, but he's not about to change how he operates when he's pulling in, at a bare minimum, $270K a year (assuming every single Patron is opting for the cheapest option - which they aren't, and discounting any Steam sales - he's surely clearing $300K).

So no, he doesn't have any incentive to compromise what he wants to deliver by reducing content, or hiring others (which would significantly eat into his bottom line).

Plenty of other great games here are taking just as long, or longer, to deliver less. Of course there are others that are releasing more frequently, but it's not even worth comparing the quantity or quality of those releases.

Personally I believe DPC is doing a phenomenal job. I believe he has a vision, and he is consistently delivering on that vision. If he could deliver the exact same product in a shorter time, and it doesn't cost him more money, and it doesn't result in his wife having an affair due to neglect, and it doesn't result in him dying prematurely, I'm sure he would.

But if he has to compromise on the product, or lose revenue, or it results in depravation of family time, or it drives him to an early grave, I'm happy to wait for however long it takes for the next episode and given the consistent rise in his patron count, I think most of his supporters are happy to wait too.
DPC is one of the very few devs that I don't bitch about how long it takes to release an update. The reason being pretty much exactly how you explained it. Unlike a lot of other devs, if you're waiting longer than usual for a release from DPC, chances are it's going to be worth it. He hasn't (to my knowledge) came up with some shitty "my grandpa's son's uncle's brother's mom died last night from covid-73 so I won't be releasing the update for another 6 months due to mental stress" excuses like I've seen on other Patreon posts.
 

dalli_x

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It isn't Elena, look at the boobs. They are way to big to be Elenas but for Josy, together with the skintone and "tiny" hands... Therefore my guess is Josy.
I also think it will be Josy will be. Right before Maya and the MC had sex in EP7, Maya said that the MC should get his birthday present. But well, not from her.:unsure::love:
 
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I hope DPC scales down after launching Ep8 and Season 2 on Steam with Ep9 and does a few more shorter episodes with less dev time.

He can't keep scaling up and up and up for every episode, it's unsustainable as it is, time wise. There's a reason art and game studios hire more people as their games tend to get bigger, and since he is unwilling to do any of that, he needs to keep scale consistent.
Everyone hates waiting. But really, DPC is an artist and we are his patrons in the truest sense of the words. He isn't producing content, hes producing his craft, unrivaled in his field. The organic nature of his efforts, his drive and passion are what makes his games so good. I'd rather never get closure and this game run for years, than ruin it by trying to force the schedule into some kind of arbitrary schedule.
 

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We don't talk about "He who shall not be named".




DPC is one of the very few devs that I don't bitch about how long it takes to release an update. The reason being pretty much exactly how you explained it. Unlike a lot of other devs, if you're waiting longer than usual for a release from DPC, chances are it's going to be worth it. He hasn't (to my knowledge) came up with some shitty "my grandpa's son's uncle's brother's mom died last night from covid-73 so I won't be releasing the update for another 6 months due to mental stress" excuses like I've seen on other Patreon posts.
I won't bitch either if i have to wait 6 month or more because each update have a lot of good quality content.
Lately i have played so many games with very short updates or bad quality content.
Ok, if the game is just a fap game with no real story, it's not a big issue, but if a good game is getting published with very short bits, it destroys all the quality of it.
I'm sick and tired to play an update that is already finished before i start to remember what it's all about and who is who!!!
But many devs take this route because it can insure them more visibility in the forums and calm their patrons.
There are even case where it's clear that the update is only existing to advertise for other services in Patreon.
 

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Anyone hates waiting. I would gladly agree to short, but concentrated updates every three months than semi-annual releases stretched out for several hours. But constantly releasing such updates is not profitable from an economic point of view. As already mentioned, most cartridges are dollar or 5 dollar users who are waiting for the release of the game and switch to 10 or 20 dollars. The release of a 3-month update will allow you to earn more. I believe that the next issues will be shorter. 4000 renders is the limit that can be reached in six months of development. He's grounded for the season finale. WPC has already hinted that in the 3rd and subsequent seasons there will be more routine and study, so I think the updates will be somewhat shorter. It's just a feeling.
 

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Let's be frank guys, DPC isn't your usual lazy ass milky dev like some we know, if he's taking more time than usual to update the game, he has a good reason. Even since the time he was working on Acting Lessons, all of his updates are always very consistent. So please, give the man a break. Game'll be ready soon enough...
 

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It’s possible … a pregnancy scare is a usual trope… Just look at Jamie and Dany :ROFLMAO:
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More drama for the MC I guess! If there is really a pregnant LI…
Worst Scenario: Game Over :cry:
Best Scenario: Pregancy sex :D

Well, I kind of feel singled out since it’s basically my screenshot. :LOL:
Look I don’t know what to say… I have bad eyesight sue me. :geek:
Reminder: I thought that this new Discord avatar was Bella for a while. :ROFLMAO:
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Ever since the text box was available in episode 6 I used it and I never bothered to take it off…
But it’s true that it kind of suck that it partially blocks the render… That’s why ‘H’ is my best friend. ;)
If some of you feel offended, I’ll remove the text box in my next screenshots!
Not my intention, brother. That's precisely why I said I wasn't singling anyone out. I could have grabbed any of a hundred screenshots. Yours just reminded me that I've been intending to ask why some people like it.

I have received a lot of various reasons, all valid. I personally prefer not having to hit "H" all of the time and I can read everything without the box.

By the way, I don't blame you for thinking that's Bella. The discord icons are small and that totally looks like Bella at first glance. It's the hair and make-up. Josy doesn't usually wear this, though I must say she looks fantastic. :love:
 
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