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Illogical storyline to get cliffhangers in episodes (although many people already speculated it)
Episode 8 makes sense, but still saddens me. Why does Isabella's route seem so much harder than the other ones? I feel so bad for Jill after she sees us, and then Jade manages to make me feel bad as well. I figured that we would only get one choice in the end, but it still feels bad nonetheless.
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I can't judge this Interlude fairly until I've played it. Hell, I can't even judge it unfairly until I have some idea of what the hell it is. But as of right now, I struggle to see how anything about it could be a good idea. Yes, it would be vastly easier to treat Zoey as the Universal Romantic Threat (pat pending!) for all the newly minted paths, but that's because she's also an inferior solution; the whole point of cutting corners is to save on costs at the expense of quality.
But there's a reason it's called cutting corners. The art is in picking places to skimp that are easily hidden and have limited effect on performance; you don't leave holes in the middle of the floor! The relationship paths are NOT corners, especially not after DPC forced us to commit to one. To me, streamlining the dating aspect of the game to squeeze in more time for Madame Rose and Maya's Nth tuition crisis is a recipe for disaster.
Whether Zoey gets her tear-jerker backstory in a separate side story or at the start of Episode 9 proper is irrelevant. The problem is that a) she's never going to be a serious threat to the player's favorite girl, and b) if the MC made his supposedly momentous decision to date a single LI (or M/J) without considering there are other attractive girls in the world, he clearly didn't think about it very hard.
The time to bring Zoey back into the story was BEFORE the MC committed to a new girlfriend. Bringing her back now as a romantic rival will be meaningless if she's an optional threat and infuriating if the MC will fall for her against our wishes. Even bringing her back in some other role is a dubious move given how many characters we already have, but at least it isn't doomed to failure. The problem is that I can't see Zoey meriting her own special episode to be just another character.
I didn't say it came out of nowhere, I said it didn't come as a natural result of our choices, and I stand by that.
To use Bella and Jill as a simple example, it's pretty obvious both of them are looking for a serious relationship (if they're going to have any relationship at all). And even an idiot would realize dating both of them will eventually end badly. Yet in Episode 7 the MC can still Hangout with Bella and *almost* pressure her into sex, then run off to pledge himself to Jill that very night.
I'm sorry, but if that doesn't bother our MC, I refuse to believe that being compared to Tommy in an offhand remark would make the slightest dent in his thinking.
No idea. I couldn't find this one, either:
Thanks for reading!We're gonna have months and months to pull ep. 8 apart and find things we love and maybe hate about it, but I gotta signal boost this post and agree very much with the tl;dr. I really didn't want to come out as negative overall on the episode because make no mistake there are some things that are good, and many things that could potentially be good that we just don't understand fully yet (I'm still not high enough IQ to understand how the path locks are gonna work, eagerly awaiting some big brain takes on it) but I have to admit that when I finished the episode I wasn't really happy. This didn't change when I played the other paths either, although I can definitely see how solo Jill and solo Bella players would disagree because their wishes were finally answered for obvious reasons.
As I said I really don't wanna come out as negative on the episode or spoil it for others, and I definitely don't want to get into arguments about how good it was because at the end of the day different people who love different girls will have different opinions and experiences with the game. All that being said, as someone who is mostly concerned with the narrative of the game, I have some very serious issues with how this episode has changed the narrative pacing and the stakes of the story. I feel the LI path locks have come way too early and seemingly in a contrived and arbitrary fashion. I feel DPC has way too many guns on the table and threads to tie up while also introducing more and more cliffhanger bait moments. I feel that the threads that have been resolved do not live up to the impact and hype, like telling Sage about Chad and Troy which results in a few minor scenes and nothing more, despite being the final cliffhanger of episode 7. And lastly, I honestly felt pretty annoyed that the final screen of episode 8 is the Interlude screen with Zoey, which is something similar to finishing Mass Effect 3 and being confronted with a big message from the developer about the upcoming DLC.
So tl;dr I guess go read ename's post because mine is a retread of a lot of that and his tl;dr is better
But just to be clear, I don't think locking in LIs has come too early per se; I'd personally been hoping it would happen for a while now. My concern is that locking in LIs is only worth doing if that choice truly means something. If the new relationship is immediately in jeopardy because the MC didn't realize he'd have to keep it in his pants, then the MC is going to look like an asshole and I'm not going to enjoy playing through his antics.
Choosing a LI (for keeps) needs to be the focus of the whole story, not some patch job. Playing through Episode 8, the biggest focus was on partying: both Becky's massive free roam and then on planning the Halloween party. That's pretty much the polar opposite of committing to a steady relationship, so of course the big decision falls flat on its face.
It's not like this is a new problem, either. One of the gigantic problems back in Episode 4 was that the whole episode focused the MC's feelings, how shocked and betrayed he felt about Maya and Josy hiding their relationship from him. But the big climax in the ruined library was focused squarely on getting the two of them back together; the MC's place with them was quite literally an afterthought (leading to the infamous scene of them kissing as he walks away if they reject him). Whatever DPC's intent, if that was going to resolution, the game needed to do focus on the MC's concern about breaking up a relationship rather than just his own hurt feelings (and ideally explain why this didn't bother him previously despite Josy already telling him she had a "boyfriend").
Episode 8 is the same thing all over all, except worse because whatever its faults, Episode 4 at least kept the focus on the M/J revelation. Episode 8 is absolutely business as usual until the MC sits down for breakfast, at which point it suddenly dawns on him that all this time spent dating multiple women could lead to him having to choose between those women. That's not going to cut it, not when he's been so studiously ignoring that rather obvious truth for the last 4 episodes.
What the hell was so special about the recital? As I said before, the MC was down to bang Bella hours after seeing Jill endure Tybalt purely to save the MC; don't tell me he didn't realize the consequences of his behavior until he saw Bella hugging the other girls. And that's the best case scenario. The recital being an instigating event is downright comical in cases like my main run, where even Jill thinks their date was a dud and the MC's "relationship" with Bella was a single drunken kiss. Clearly the MC has already committed to M/J, so why is he even asking Elena for advice?
Look, I've wanted the MC to commit to Maya and Josy since the end of Season 1. I should be loving this. But now that it's here, all I can think about is having to slog through Season 3 before I can finally force the MC to turn down Zoey and commit to M/J again, for really reals this time. I don't know if I'm up for that. IMHO, if that's my response to the "crossroad," something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.
I'm still skeptical hiring a team would be a net positive for this game, but I agree with everything else.
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I've defended DPC's planning in the past, but I can't anymore. If DPC had done his job properly, Zoey wouldn't need an Interlude to explain her dramatic [sic] return.
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She probably hates him as much as everyone.
It was speculated the Burkes or Funny Man Bun guy would be her parents.
I am pretty certain at this point Tybalt is adopted too.
- Sep 19, 2018
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Errybody waitin for the "official walkthrough" yet I'm here waitin for the usually quicker to arrive and much more helpful fan walkthrough.
rick87 where you at dawg?
rick87 where you at dawg?
Just got kicked out from Patreon and Discord. I don't even know why... Not a faintest clue. I've been supporting DPC for about two years. I'm clueless and there is no way to ask. I never felt shittier for not being able to donate to someone...
Good to know, I figured as much because there's quite a large number of people that play this. Would be a lot of personal information getting leaked if it did actually pose a risk in that area.
- Oct 31, 2019
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So who the fuck is this?
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- May 30, 2020
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This game is fucking strange no problem at all on friday when playing then today my antivirus is screaming like hell
I had 3 saves on different paths (neutral-chick-dik) from ep.7.Loaded one of them wiithout any issues and reached the end of ep.8,but when I try to load one of the other 2 the game crashes...Anyone else had this issue?
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Maybe you're right but for me after seeing who Sage's family is and discovering chad's secret Im positive that we all be wrong at the end I think that its from a girl that wont even comes to our minds
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There is no way to contact DPC. I asked a question in the spoilers section, it was even protected not to spoil someone else's fun, some guy helped me and I thanked nicely. I have no idea
Dudes I need help in finding the 3D character of Isabella, searched like hundred pages of Daz3D store and I can't find her. Before you jump on me I don't need it for VN, but for personal use. Okay that doesn't sound right lol, but yeah it's for internal use only. Please, if anyone know will be much appreciated!