VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Deleted member 4298851]

If the DIK/Neutral/CHIK system is a moral one, being DIK bad and CHIK nice, it means that DPC is taking part for a route, and if he´s coherent, the DIK MC is going get the worst ending, and the CHIK MC is going to get the best one. It would make the game less interesting, IMO. I find the CHIK route boring and less interesting in general, and I would not like to be punished by DPC for that at the ending of the game.

*Finally after the 9th attempt I'm able to fucking reply..DAMN!*

that's fair enough, it's just my own opinion on it, but from the choices I've seen, all the DIK stuff, to me, is a not-so-very-nice-person route; the weed, the HOTs, the fake ID, etc. It's how I process it, and it's opinion based of course,, but from what I've seen, and how I translate it, it's not a good lifestyle or life outlook to have or be in.

People can say that being nice in real life is a bit boring. Billy Joel said it best: "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, sinners are much more fun, only the good die young."

Me personally, like I said, I bring my own views to the game, but from what I see, I see nothing redeeming about a hardcore DIK route. Could it lead to Quinn's redemption? Possibly, and that would be a good thing. It could lead the many good things towards the end of the game, and the destination may be better than the journey.

I for one, as a Permanent CHIK player, find much more joy in the things and in the route that I play, which we all know what it is. It's all about viewpoint, what each player, what each person, wants to enjoy. And my full-on Jill route may not be interesting to some (or most) but to me, it makes me feel good as a person that I made the right choices; her dinner party with her friends, the recital, talking Derek out of revenge, flushing the answer sheets, not taking the weed or fake ID.

Those are my personal choices and it's how I see the game. I never went away to college, so I don't have that view of campus college life, but I'm pretty damn sure I'd not do any of the DIK-type stuff in this game as I would IRL. Especially knowing there'd be consequences, and I wasn't raised that way.

I guess being older too makes my thinking to some seem alien. To me, all the DIK choices are "scumbag-y," that's just how I see it; Quinn's restaurant, the Pink Rose, the HOTs, cheating, weed, etc. It's not a path I'd ever want to be on, and in turn, it's not a path my MC will be on.

Like I said, completely personal opinion and point of view.

And being an ass in this game is no different than choosing Rena at the end of AL, because in my opinion, she has HOTs written all over her, as Ana did in my mind. To me, that was the asshole choice in AL; shooting Peter, or being with Leah or Rena, to me, those are bad DIK choices

 

[PashafromRussia]

This site, after the release of the update, works as slowly as the Russian post. I hope this is not a cunning plan of DPC and others to break the site so that everyone becomes patrons.

 

[tg]

If the DIK/Neutral/CHIK system is a moral one, being DIK bad and CHIK nice, it means that DPC is taking part for a route, and if he´s coherent, the DIK MC is going get the worst ending, and the CHIK MC is going to get the best one. It would make the game less interesting, IMO. I find the CHIK route boring and less interesting in general. Not because I´m an asshole in real life, answering the question you make in your comment, but because there are less things to do in the CHIK route and the situations and characters are less interesting. DIK MC is more bold and assertive with girls, and able to standing up against assholes that bully him, like the Alphas, and I like that in a character of a H-game. I would not like to be punished by DPC for that at the ending of the game.

My prediction is that Zoey is being brought back as a IL, just to offer DIK MCs another option. I come to to this idea, because right now, we have Jill's story that links back to the MC's mother somehow, and if he follows that, it'll lead back into that more and more.

But, there's an alternative: the MC's own history. It doesn't involve his mom and dad's life together. It doesn't involve how the rich families might relate to each other. What could be important is the MC's personal history with the surfer girl.

You know, Jill could have had more involvement with DIK MCs by playing with her memories of Lana (the rebel dead sister). She could perhaps see similarities between her sister and the DIK MC, and depart from her rich upbringing to tell a story similar to the one his mom had with Neil. But, I'm pretty sure that's not on the books. At all. DrPC could have done that, but he didn't, and it's too late to do that now. There's a certain story waiting for Jill and the CHICK MC, and as you're probably aware, it's a very boring one.

When I was doing my playthroughs with CHICK/DIK/NEUT, I wasn't even really reading the CHICK stories. I mean, I did, but it didn't make much difference, since I'm not really relating to those girls at all, now that most have rejected the DIK MC.

The coming S3 does provide a chance to reset the table though. I wouldn't mind if there's a more DIK-focused apprach with the overarching story. That would be a pretty great balance to the game. I'm not sure if there's a demand for that, but it couldn't hurt.

 

[Journey95]

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Switch Maya & Josy with Jill and I agree 100% with your ranking. Especially with Sage being S and Bella, Quinn and Lily A

 

[Meghead]

I wonder will MC use the secret code or something, so girls could sneak out without this stupid walk of shame.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

I wonder will MC use the secret code or something, so girls could sneak out without this stupid walk of shame.

I was thinking that too, especially with Jill. She could leave the same way she came in, through the back, which I think was a smart idea, even not knowing about the walk of shame bullshit, because I personally think that would be a VERY bad thing for her to go through.

I hope he does call secret code for whoever he's involved with. She should be am exception, whoever she is, since she is the MC's girl-friend or fuck-buddy or whatever

 

[mindern]

tbh i think that scene was kinda lazy from a devs point
i mean, bella who is so careful about appearances and what people think, she uses the wedding ring because of that and then she fucks a young student next to a front window so everyone on the street can see?
and surprise surprise, at the precise moment jill was walking by...

Bella awakening her sexuality has been a pretty big part of her story arc.

The intro to this episode says how adventurous she was sexually in the past (even in public) but something at some point changed and she became the “ice queen”. The MC awakens something in her again (early on she masturbates and comments how no man has made her feel this way in a long time) and the finale of this episode has her back to being sexual.

I think this is more what Bella is like. Fucking on the kitchen table is Bella now she’s gotten over whatever was keeping her the way she was at the start of the story.

 

[J.A.L.]

*Finally after the 9th attempt I'm able to fucking reply..DAMN!*

that's fair enough, it's just my own opinion on it, but from the choices I've seen, all the DIK stuff, to me, is a not-so-very-nice-person route; the weed, the HOTs, the fake ID, etc. It's how I process it, and it's opinion based of course,, but from what I've seen, and how I translate it, it's not a good lifestyle or life outlook to have or be in.

People can say that being nice in real life is a bit boring. Billy Joel said it best: "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, sinners are much more fun, only the good die young."

Me personally, like I said, I bring my own views to the game, but from what I see, I see nothing redeeming about a hardcore DIK route. Could it lead to Quinn's redemption? Possibly, and that would be a good thing. It could lead the many good things towards the end of the game, and the destination may be better than the journey.

I for one, as a Permanent CHIK player, find much more joy in the things and in the route that I play, which we all know what it is. It's all about viewpoint, what each player, what each person, wants to enjoy. And my full-on Jill route may not be interesting to some (or most) but to me, it makes me feel good as a person that I made the right choices; her dinner party with her friends, the recital, talking Derek out of revenge, flushing the answer sheets, not taking the weed or fake ID.

Those are my personal choices and it's how I see the game. I never went away to college, so I don't have that view of campus college life, but I'm pretty damn sure I'd not do any of the DIK-type stuff in this game as I would IRL. Especially knowing there'd be consequences, and I wasn't raised that way.

I guess being older too makes my thinking to some seem alien. To me, all the DIK choices are "scumbag-y," that's just how I see it; Quinn's restaurant, the Pink Rose, the HOTs, cheating, weed, etc. It's not a path I'd ever want to be on, and in turn, it's not a path my MC will be on.

Like I said, completely personal opinion and point of view.

And being an ass in this game is no different than choosing Rena at the end of AL, because in my opinion, she has HOTs written all over her, as Ana did in my mind. To me, that was the asshole choice in AL; shooting Peter, or being with Leah or Rena, to me, those are bad DIK choices

This is a game, not real life. Playing the bad guy in a game, this one or any other, doesn´t mean you would do that in real life. Playing the good guy in a game, doesn´t mean you are a better person. I´m not offended at all, but if you say things like " I guess if you're an asshole in real life, you're one in the game...? " or "I bring what I am as a person to these games, which is why I never cheat on my LIs, I never smoke or drink anything if given that choice, don't go to the strip bars or sleep with the girls who are walking seafood buffets" could be offensive. Just saying

About the game, it would be really boring if following the CHIK route the MC avoids problems and conflicts in the game, and gets the best ending. It´s conflict and problems what makes a game interesting. It would be a mistake if DPC punishes with a bad ending the players that look for funny and crazy situations in free roams like parties or the strip club, or to see more sexy scenes... in a porn game. A porn game in which you play a 19 years old good-looking student with a magic cock living in a frat, not a 40 years old accountant that works in a bank, for example.

I suppose there are some specific decisions in the game that could trigger a bad outcome in spite of the route you are adopting, and that is what is going to determine the good or bad ending you get. For example, you could be playing the CHIK route, but are seduced by Cathy and get the blowjob in the car, and you lose Isabella. I hope is not going to be something like "if you have +15 DIK points and DIK affinity, you are doomed to a bad ending" or something like that, and you are going to be able to get a good ending playing as a DIK, CHIK or NEUTRAL if you adopt the correct decisions.

 

[Meghead]

I was thinking that too, especially with Jill. She could leave the same way she came in, through the back, which I think was a smart idea, even not knowing about the walk of shame bullshit, because I personally think that would be a VERY bad thing for her to go through.

I hope he does call secret code for whoever he's involved with. She should be am exception, whoever she is, since she is the MC's girl-friend or fuck-buddy or whatever

Well, in my playthrough, canceling the walk of shame is quite real, I'm on the route with Bella, and most likely their relationship will be a secret, but I'm not sure about the other girls.

seduced by Cathy and get the blowjob in the car, and you lose Isabella

And that shit was stupid as fuck, like, how could i know about this, I had to replay almost the entire episode again.

 

[Xabder]

is there a possibility to keep cathy at the school?

 

[OFT]

OK, kids! Here is my timeline graphic showing how many in-game days have elapsed, now updated for Ep. 8.



Nailing down the ending this time is not an exact science, though. In fact, from the gameplay I've seen so far, nowhere does it say the day of the week on which the following events occur:

Spoiler: Final Events of Ep. 8

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The first four events happen on the same day, but the ending might or might not occur the next night. All I can say with any fair degree of certainty is that:

• They occur during the same week
• The first four events happen no sooner than Tuesday, based on Bella's texts if Jill spies her having the MC's breakfast sausage
• The ending scene happens no later than Friday.

If anyone has evidence to the contrary, let me know (PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS!) and I'll make the proper adjustments.

Short of any future Ep. 8 insights, my hope is that events in Ep. 9 will cement the ending day of Ep. 8, and maybe even the actual starting date of Ep. 1.

The storyline so far has spanned only 7 weeks. In my previous timeline post, the only unknown was the length of the Ep. 7 time skip, which I set to 3 days. The only other feasible option would have been 10 days, and that seemed excessive at the time. It appears obvious now the Halloween party will take place in the next episode. However, if you extrapolate the data (shout out to Bella), then you're looking an episode whose storyline starts at the end of the first week of October and stretches to the Halloween party, about 3 to 3-1/2 weeks, making it the longest episode timespan yet. If you wanted to even it out, you could make the skip 10 days in Ep. 7. That would make

• Ep. 7 2-1/2 weeks
• Ep. 8 approximately 2-1/2 weeks
• And then perhaps 2-1/2 to 3 weeks for Ep. 9

I guess we'll know on June 3, 2022 when Ep. 9 is released.

 

[Skeltom]

I was thinking that too, especially with Jill. She could leave the same way she came in, through the back, which I think was a smart idea, even not knowing about the walk of shame bullshit, because I personally think that would be a VERY bad thing for her to go through.

I hope he does call secret code for whoever he's involved with. She should be am exception, whoever she is, since she is the MC's girl-friend or fuck-buddy or whatever

Also if she came to the front door she couldn't toss those pebbles like her sister and the MC did. I'm not sure why but that really got me.

 

[Hahn1900]

I was thinking that too, especially with Jill. She could leave the same way she came in, through the back, which I think was a smart idea, even not knowing about the walk of shame bullshit, because I personally think that would be a VERY bad thing for her to go through.

I hope he does call secret code for whoever he's involved with. She should be am exception, whoever she is, since she is the MC's girl-friend or fuck-buddy or whatever

There were more than one scene where the walk of shame didnt happen after a girl left the MCs room out of respect or just fear... Bella only needed one glance and they stopped, after Josy comes out everyone stopped cause she is the sister of Tommy... Jill is a much respected person around campus too, and of course everybody (except the MC) knows she is a royce... i dont think Rusty would be ok with a walk of shame on her, and my gues would be, they would stop if the DIKs see her. But just to get "caught" maybe would have been a problem for Jill some time ago... but now? As officially "Girlfriend" ? I dont think so. She would be annoyed by it, but i dont think that it would affect her that much overall... she is in love with the MC, the MC is a dik, and she is very aware of it that the DIKs are party animals with nearly no shame... so at this time, i think she would stand over it without to much bother.

 

[ladc]

Well I justy finished my playthrough. What the hell am I supposed to do now?!

 

[Marley300]

So I was just doing a quick new path and then I noticed…
What the fuck!?!? I thought DPC fixed that bug.

Brandi gets no respect.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Before I get started on this post, to those Jill fans who struggle with criticisms of her, let me extend an olive branch and state:

Spoiler: In this animation Jill is, arguably, the most perfect specimen of a human being!

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Spoiler: And she started to smile...

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Well, in my playthrough, canceling the walk of shame is quite real, I'm on the route with Bella, and most likely their relationship will be a secret, but I'm not sure about the other girls.

The Walk of shame doesn't work with Bella anyway, remember ?



Do you really think they would dare to try a second time ? The Kubrick stare has frightened them to the bones.

 

[Blades1138]

You make it sound like that's a bad thing, but that's one of the reasons I like the game! (I suspect I'm in the minority here).

There's a difference between good drama and bad drama. People aren't complaining because the drama in BaDIK is the good kind. A lot of it is shoehorned just for the sake of it, without any realistic justification in-story.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

Well I justy finished my playthrough. What the hell am I supposed to do now?!

Wait about 6 months or so like the rest of us for an update, or try new routes or maybe try to fine-tune the one you're on

 

[Fraxo]

Don't understand the fascination with Quinn. Some might argue that there's a backstory behind her behaviour. That might be so, but that doesn't mean she has to be an idiot to everyone around her. Might be of interest if the MC forced her to her knees and into submission. Maybe she messes up badly (again) and needs the MC's help.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

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The Walk of shame doesn't work with Bella anyway, remember ?

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Do you really think they would dare to try a second time ? The Kubrick stare has frightened them to the bones.

I never saw the stare that she gave them, but I can certainly imagine it scaring everyone in the mansion who saw it