VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Ilhares]

Since that is the case I urge you to become lightning fast a game developer and put something " better " on the table ! You obviosly think poorly of this VN so guess it's just fair to give you a chance to prove your point with a product of your own...

I don't generally see myself as someone who would defend DavDR, because most of the time I see a post with his name and move on because I think he's a hypercritical dick who'd be better served elsewhere - however- your stance here isn't really fair.

I've seen a lot of movies in life. Ed Wood's catalogue may not be the worst films to ever appear on the screen, but without question they are absolutely shit. Do I think I could do better? No, because I'm not a film maker, but I don't need to be. One needn't be a biologist to recognize excrement and object when finding it where it doesn't belong.

None of it is out of my ass. That would suggest I made it all up. It's all backed up in the game except for Patrick and Pete, but it's a fair assumption that they have jobs.

Patrick works at Richard's(whoever THAT is) used car sales lot (as seen in Chapter 8 if Rusty has to sell his car), so he's certainly employed.

 

[crommsolas]

good evenning everyone im having a problem with my game it takes me as i played it before and got all renders and some the dialogue as i already saw them, is there a way to wipe the game cache so i can start a new game?

 

[kakato13]

I extracted and renamed them.

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Mega

do you have another link，except mega please

 

[Ostap Bender]

Of course right now my daughter is all like, "Eew Gross!" when she sees two people kissing

Broccoli, eh? Smart kid!

 

[Meushi]

Sure, the Interlude could just access the save data as a test, but what exactly does that prove? DPC has presumably already tested that. Unless the Interlude tosses in a screen showing the imported variables (which DPC would never do, IMHO), it needs to branch based on that data to be worth importing it at this point. (Or, as I said, it needs to add new data based on choices within the Interlude.)

You can never test enough, which is why there are regularly v0.8.1 etc. The ramification of bugs with the save transfer are much greater, so more rigorous testing is sensible.

DPC's done dev testing, his QA people have done UA testing, then you release it to the great unwashed and they find all the other bugs you missed, such as problems which only occur in particular OS/hardware etc.

DPC told us himself in that status update that the interlude is an "opportunity to make sure that the save transfers from Season 2 to Season 3 works for all of your games" (i.e. testing), so I'm puzzled why you're debating this particular point? The dev himself can't be 100% sure it will work for everyone yet.

As to how DPC could test the imported variables without using them in earnest for choices etc., that's trivial. Like his anti-modding code, you have some variable test(s) in code early in the game & if it fails, you give the user a message telling them their save transfer failed and close the game before they progress further. Affected Patreons tell DPC, who can then work out the scale of the issue & what fixes might be done.

If he doesn't do something of that nature, then he's got no idea if only half the variables came across in the save transfer or the like. Then months later when he releases episode 0.9 he gets a flood of support calls because his subscribers playthrough is borked.

Hopefully this will all be moot & everything goes fine. Other games have done such save transfers, though undoubtedly not involving the same volume of variables as BaDIK.

 

[Klopdwerg]

Yup. I was stuck on this part for about 2 hours....
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This scene and music made a huge impact on me. Sage opening up and MC telling her that she made also a huge different for her parents as they did for her... damn

 

[M00nSh1ne_X]

Of course right now my daughter is all like, "Eew Gross!" when she sees two people kissing, so it's gonna be several years before she's up to the task, not to mention the legal age to look at what she's creating...

 

[Paranoid丶Chen]

So can we be sure that Maya will end the game as prostitution?

 

[J.A.L.]

Jill isn't at the party, but lives there, so it could be her, though I'd be surprised. Ashley, Elena, Heather, Melanie, and Sarah are all upstairs. Quinn too, but it's not her. So yeah, it could be just about anyone. And of course, Arieth is at the Jock party.

Someone already said: it´s Arieth. The guy is let´s say "eccentric", like Arieth, and can´t find his daughter because Arieth is in the wrong party.

 

[Arigon]

I will say it again for those who think DPC is a great "writer". He is not. He is ok. He HIMSELF will tell you that writing is his weak point, and his stories (both of them) suffer from his inability to follow complete thoughts when writing, and to come to reasonable and logical points and conclusions.

That said, he is probably one of the most incredible artists in this "industry".

He has the second best sound track hands down for his AVN. Some would argue first. I prefer Leap of Faith by Drifty for the soundtrack Oscar.

His production is pretty damned slick.

His process is a fail.

He claims he is solo at all of this. He has promised erroneously that he will deliver 12 episodes at a minimum, with some of you crazy guys thinking 16-20. At his current production level, with his complications that he adds in needlessly, and the branching story arcs, you are looking at 2033 for chapter 16 boyos! Not going to happen. Erase that from your memory. He will NOT do that.

He is burned out. This project is too big for one person. I certainly do not think he is sticking to being a one man show out of greed. He is someone who is pretty hard to please. He doesn't want to let go of any part of this, beyond some beta readers. He wants to tell us some Medieval Lustful Tales. Anyhow, the unbelievers will not believe it till chapter 10 has the end credits for the whole AVN so I will just let that go.

The guy does a great wingman. He is pretty fucking awesome at his lewds.

I give full credit where credit is due.

I wish he would hire a writer/director to help him out with story content, planning, and execution. It would make the whole product so much better.

All that said. Clearly I am an Asshole since I am being critical of the Holy Grail of your fantasy fapfest! As my dear compatriot and shining white knight shazba stated; An asshole I am.... Maybe not as BIG an asshole as I was in my... what did he say???? Oh yeah, in my Prime, yet an Asshole I honestly and truly remain!

Peace to all of you, even the ones who will flame my post! Oh and good will and shit too!

 

[Lightaces]

So can we be sure that Maya will end the game as prostitution?

No, but I wouldn't be shocked if that was ONE of the endings. It would be a bad ending, for her, though. I could see Josy as a stripper, but the only LI I think could really handle being a (VERY high end) escort would be Bella. If she can get over her husband, and Tremolo, she's got the mental strength to do it, and the sexuality. And like I said, she would be unbelievably expensive!!!

(To all the Bella Stans, this is NOT, in any way, an insult of Bella. She's a strong, independent, very desirable woman. She would never be anyone's victim in the scenario I'm suggesting. She'd be a BOSS.)

 

[Lightaces]

I will say it again for those who think DPC is a great "writer". He is not. He is ok. He HIMSELF will tell you that writing is his weak point, and his stories (both of them) suffer from his inability to follow complete thoughts when writing, and to come to reasonable and logical points and conclusions.

That said, he is probably one of the most incredible artists in this "industry".

He has the second best sound track hands down for his AVN. Some would argue first. I prefer Leap of Faith by Drifty for the soundtrack Oscar.

His production is pretty damned slick.

His process is a fail.

He claims he is solo at all of this. He has promised erroneously that he will deliver 12 episodes at a minimum, with some of you crazy guys thinking 16-20. At his current production level, with his complications that he adds in needlessly, and the branching story arcs, you are looking at 2033 for chapter 16 boyos! Not going to happen. Erase that from your memory. He will NOT do that.

He is burned out. This project is too big for one person. I certainly do not think he is sticking to being a one man show out of greed. He is someone who is pretty hard to please. He doesn't want to let go of any part of this, beyond some beta readers. He wants to tell us some Medieval Lustful Tales. Anyhow, the unbelievers will not believe it till chapter 10 has the end credits for the whole AVN so I will just let that go.

The guy does a great wingman. He is pretty fucking awesome at his lewds.

I give full credit where credit is due.

I wish he would hire a writer/director to help him out with story content, planning, and execution. It would make the whole product so much better.

All that said. Clearly I am an Asshole since I am being critical of the Holy Grail of your fantasy fapfest! As my dear compatriot and shining white knight shazba stated; An asshole I am.... Maybe not as BIG an asshole as I was in my... what did he say???? Oh yeah, in my Prime, yet an Asshole I honestly and truly remain!

Peace to all of you, even the ones who will flame my post! Oh and good will and shit too!

Why is it you assume he is lying in his updates? Because that is what you are saying - that DPC is just lying.

 

[Garen]

Inviting over Josy and Maya to his place so that they can work things out, making their hearts flutter a bit at the consideration being shown and then dipping out to go hang out with Sage.

How does he do it ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Arigon]

Why is it you assume he is lying in his updates? Because that is what you are saying - that DPC is just lying.

I am.
He is over promising.
He will not deliver.
It is just plain math and the fact the guy will not let others work on the project to share the real workload.
It is ok, you do not have to believe me.
Just do some simple math yourself.
Tell me that he gets done before 2033.
Peace

 

[znar25]

If it takes many years to tell this story, I think a top level Patron contributor, should also have the option of being buried in a BaDIK themed casket. And wearing the DIKs jacket.

They might not see the end of the story but the story will be with them in spirit to the grave.

 

[znar25]

Chick alignment-- Josy/Maya path (no sides).

We know exactly how Josy feels about MC. A very sweet moment.

 

[Paranoid丶Chen]

No, but I wouldn't be shocked if that was ONE of the endings.

I think so.
Josy's carefree college life may be what prompted Maya to move towards this result.
But if it does happen, I will be sad.
Hope that DPC can at least give me a choice to avoid this ending.

 

[J.A.L.]

He is burned out. This project is too big for one person. I certainly do not think he is sticking to being a one man show out of greed. He is someone who is pretty hard to please. He doesn't want to let go of any part of this, beyond some beta readers. (...)
I wish he would hire a writer/director to help him out with story content, planning, and execution. It would make the whole product so much better.

Agree with your comment. I think the guy has a creative mind, and that´s the most important think, but he lacks of technical skills for writing a well rounded script for a big game like this one. In terms of size and complexity, this game can be compared with an indie hit like "Life is Strange". I´m not saying that "Life is Strange" is a well written game. It´s an ideologically biased game with an awful script full of tricks to manipulate the (usually young and manipulable) players and that doesn´t respond the main questions of the game. But it´s a profesional ideologically biased game with a manipulative script made by a professional team of writers, coders and graphic artists, and that shows. Hence the success of the game.

I don´t know if DPC don´t hire help because he´s greedy, of hard to please and don´t want let go any part of his "creature". But, if the second case is the truth, there are a lot of tasks in a game like this one that doesn´t need to give up any creative control. Coding, for example. Or making certain routine renders, like the ones of empty rooms or sceneries and the ones of the cicle of two characters maintaining a conversation with close-ups of their faces and slight changes of expression, mouths open or closed, etc. Things like those than don´t need creativity, but for sure are time-consuming, and someone could do them for him while he makes more important things. Even if he don´t hire a writer/director and wants to retain control of all the game, there are a lot of things that could do for improving the game and shorten release times, by hiring some help.

 

[Arigon]

Agree with your comment. I think the guy has a creative mind, and that´s the most important think, but he lacks of technical skills for writing a well rounded script for a big game like this one. In terms of size and complexity, this game can be compared with an indie hit like "Life is Strange". I´m not saying that "Life is Strange" is a well written game. It´s an ideologically biased game with an awful script full of tricks to manipulate the (usually young and manipulable) players and that doesn´t respond the main questions of the game. But it´s a profesional ideologically biased game with a manipulative script made by a professional team of writers, coders and graphic artists, and that shows. Hence the success of the game.

I don´t know if DPC don´t hire help because he´s greedy, of hard to please and don´t want let go any part of his "creature". But, if the second case is the truth, there are a lot of tasks in a game like this one that doesn´t need to give up any creative control. Coding, for example. Or making certain routine renders, like the ones of empty rooms or sceneries and the ones of the cicle of two characters maintaining a conversation with close-ups of their faces and slight changes of expression, mouths open or closed, etc. Things like those than don´t need creativity, but for sure are time-consuming, and someone could do them for him while he makes more important things. Even if he don´t hire a writer/director and wants to retain control of all the game, there are a lot of things that could do for improving the game and shorten release times, by hiring some help.

So very true.
He won't do it though.
That is why his story will suffer more as it nears the end, just like Acting Lessons did. I am not saying we are going to have an AL ending, but his story lost all credibility at the point of the fire and not being able to carry out two small girls, even if Athletic was your chosen trait. He wanted that grit and pain, but failed. He introduced us to the psycho nurse in such a haphazard way that it was a fail. Here he will tie up endings. Whether he does it well or sloppy??? My bet is the latter. Because he just can't plan it and execute it in a believable or even just a decent fashion. He doesn't have that skill set in him. He SHOULD hire someone to do that for him.
Alas I have said that before. I said it to him. He does not take criticisms well, even very constructive ones... thus the asshole in me comes out,
Peace

 

[shazba]

Ash ? Who's Ash ? Clearly not Ashley considering your description.

Oops, I meant Rox.