VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DavDR]

doesn't seem like a great argument considering how "electrifying" Maya's hospitality will prove to be....

Yes and that's another thing in proving Maya's selfishness. After MC is sexually assaulted, tased and kidnapped the first thing Maya says is 'will you help me' or words to that effect. She doesn't express any concern or remorse until called out on it. It's her first impulse or instinct to think of herself, even in a situation where she should be embarrassed or remorseful.

 

[Jimayo]

Listen, young maggot. Irl a relationship has dealbreakers, you never tolerate cheating or abuse. As a Game do what you want.

No you listen child. Life is never that simple. There's a difference between a cheating slut like a arieth and people in a broken relationship like josy and maya who are moving on before breaking up or someone who's been cheated on and cheating in return like sage. Life is not simple and it is not black or white. It is filled with shades of grey. Josy, Maya and Sage are not cheating sluts who jump into bed with anybody that comes along and treating them like they are because you want a simple minded black and white outlook that ignores context is stupid. I am capable of much more complex thought than that.

 

[Olsens.M]

Yes and that's another thing in proving Maya's selfishness. After MC is sexually assaulted, tased and kidnapped the first thing Maya says is 'will you help me' or words to that effect. She doesn't express any concern or remorse until called out on it. It's her first impulse or instinct to think of herself, even in a situation where she should be embarrassed or remorseful.

And when Josy's father comes to see Josy, she can't be happy for josy and runaway. And MC who isn't even her BF is the one who is there for her. I would love to date Josy, but I don't want Maya, so I focus on other girls. I don't really like Maya, but she is the sister of derek and GF of Josy, so yes, I have to be there for her. She always thinks on herself first and worse, she never listens to anyone. Reason why she gets into trouble a lot.

 

[DavDR]

Come on man, everyone has their kinks, all I was trying to say, that for this game adding NTR would be stupid. There are planty of games with that already, just like in real life, if someone likes to watch their girlfriend/wife get fucked, so be it, I don't judge, mostly.

No, NTR hysteria is, I feel, a major issue in AVN's. I'm not particularly fond of it myself but where cheating becomes necessary for the progression of the story authors have to feel safe in using it.

 

[Olsens.M]

is the girl who met Tremolo's dad at the end of latest ep a new character? I played this two time i still dont know who it is either this or im just a dumbass

You didnt play it well then. Zoey is the Girl he tells Isabella about at the caffeteria. When he sits with Isabella, to tell her about how was his childhood. He tells her about this girl he fell in love when he was in High School, after being bullied, etc. And that she was his first love, the first one he had sex with, and she left the town to pursue her surfing career. So now she comes back.

 

[DavDR]

Three. Heather, Elena and Arieth.

Well more like four and a half, add Sally and KRJ to that list, although KRJ only get's a half because nobody but Felice would want to fuck her.

 

[felicemastronzo]

No, NTR hysteria is, I feel, a major issue in AVN's. I'm not particularly fond of it myself but where cheating becomes necessary for the progression of the story authors have to feel safe in using it.

In Bella's flashback, her husband does not kiss her

Realism....

 

[incog44]

Somehow I managed to fuck up Jill and Bella's route in a single episode. I feel like I did everything right. FUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKK

 

[J.A.L.]

Well more like four and a half, add Sally and KRJ to that list, although KRJ only get's a half because nobody but Felice would want to fuck her.

He asked about HOTs, I think.

 

[DavDR]

He asked about HOTs, I think.

My mistake I should have read back through the conversion.

But at least it was a good opportunity to point out that Felice has a crush on KRJ

(Felice and Karen sittin in a tree
kay eye ess ess eye en gee
first comes love . . .)

 

[J.A.L.]

No, NTR hysteria is, I feel, a major issue in AVN's. I'm not particularly fond of it myself but where cheating becomes necessary for the progression of the story authors have to feel safe in using it.

Cheating and NTR are different things, I suppose. Anyway, people play this kind of games to feel good, not to feel cheated and despised. Most of the people, I mean. Specially in immersive games in which you can identify, at some level, with the MC. I can understand why that fetish generates so much rejection. It's like a fly in the soup bowl. You can push it away and continue eating if you are hungry, but it ruins the enjoyment of the dinner.

 

[felicemastronzo]

My mistake I should have read back through the conversion.

But at least it was a good opportunity to point out that Felice has a crush on KRJ

(Felice and Karen sittin in a tree
kay eye ess ess eye en gee
first comes love . . .)

You will not have my facepalm, i am a wise man now

I wish Karen will find her true love

 

[DavDR]

Cheating and NTR are different things, I suppose. Anyway, people play this kind of games to feel good, not to feel cheated and despised. Most of the people, I mean. Specially in immersive games in which you can identify, at some level, with the MC. I can understand why that fetish generates so much rejection. It's like a fly in the soup bowl. You can push it away and continue eating if you are hungry, but it ruins the enjoyment of the dinner.

That's a good point, and I admit it is a thorny issue. On the one hand I do understand how people feel uncomfortable with the situation. But my main concern is the quality of AVN's. I want to see us come to a place where there are many well written AVN's available, where the market isn't flooded with simplistic or shallow stories. NTR hysteria is a major stumbling block to reaching that goal.

 

[DavDR]

You will not have my facepalm, i am a wise man now

I wish Karen will find her true love

Hmmm I think she already has

 

[J.A.L.]

That's a good point, and I admit it is a thorny issue. On the one hand I do understand how people feel uncomfortable with the situation. But my main concern is the quality of AVN's. I want to see us come to a place where there are many well written AVN's available, where the market isn't flooded with simplistic or shallow stories. NTR hysteria is a major stumbling block to reaching that goal.

I think lack of talent and skills for creative writing are the reasons for that low quality in AVNs. For example, why so many AVN resort to a MC with superpowers of mind control, or things like sleeping sex or sex under blackmailing? Because for a writer is difficult to create and write dialogues for an attractive MC capable of seducing women the traditional way: being charming and having a witty, pleasant conversation. It´s easier to create a MC that just uses magic to get laid or some other cheap trick like that.

I don´t thin that "NTR hysteria" is a major issue. 90% of AVNs would be equally simplistic and shallow without it too.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Wow Maya topic still going? Niiice

That whole Maya/Quinn fandom rivalry needs to stop. Haven't we all acknowledge a common enemy ?

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[TajaRrR]

Jonathan who?

It's the guy who will help her to do some kind of memorial for her sister or something like that.

 

[Jimayo]

That whole Maya/Quinn fandom rivalry needs to stop. Haven't we all acknowledge a common enemy ?

What if I'm not exactly a maya fan? Like, I like her, sure, but only in so much as I like all the LI's. She's like 4th or 5th on my list. I know quinn fanboys like to accuse me of being a maya fanboy but I'm not. I just see quinn for the sociopathic piece of shit she is and hate the fact that people lionize that cunt.

Also I've never interacted with the madame. I go with retirement home because setting a good example is what being a leader is all about.

 

[clayjar]

who are your favourite girls? I like Bella

 

[Jimayo]

It's the guy who will help her to do some kind of memorial for her sister or something like that.

A charity. She's trying to set up a charity in her sister's name.