VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lightaces]

I really doubt that Zoey will become another LI. We just spent 8 episodes bonding with the cast and only now she comes into the picture.

What I predict is that she is a vehicle for DPC to develop MC characterwise. He had a sad backstory but the one of the few bright people in it was Zoey.

She is there to give contrast to what MC was before and who he is as a person today. Why is that important at this moment?

I honestly don't know, but I don't think she will turn down some casual sex either for the brief time she's there

We are half-way through the story. She's a Complication. Writing 101.

 

[lukrame]

I understand why a lot of players aren’t looking forward to Zoey’s return.

The mc’s made all these new friends, found new love and suddenly someone from his past, who we as readers don’t know very well, is gate crashing.

When the ex showed up in “Three Rules of Life” (I think that was the game), I just bailed. Same as College Kings or one of those games.

But fuck me if I’m not hyped for Zoey. I liked her sass in the flashback story, and she looks like she’s only gotten finer since.

If DPC does this right, by the end of the interlude a heap of readers are gonna change their tune about her and they will be all aboard on the blue train.

I'm sort of ambivalent but if she's a cool girl then I have no problems.
I just hope she won't be a flashback generator to talk about MC's past too much. If she's as fierce as she looks then sign me up. We really need another "dik" type girl to balance the cast out.

 

[Zhaiii]

Anyone out there doing the pack quest mission? I'm in episode 8 at the dorm party, i only need the pack quest named "Night with a K". Any help finding the hidden button? Thanks guys

 

[sixart]

Anyone out there doing the pack quest mission? I'm in episode 8 at the dorm party, i only need the pack quest named "Night with a K". Any help finding the hidden button? Thanks guys

Frat party corridor 1 second door right look for a poster on the wall with a knight on it K-night

 

[Lightaces]

guys, Does this game have pregnant sex? thanks

This game is intended to reach a very broad audience. The sex in it will never delve far into any kink or fetish. This just isn't that game. The most you are ever going to see is a little bit of very light bondage.

 

[Lightaces]

Maya is so fixated on the idea of being with Josie that she doesn't pay attention to the fact that her actions can cause pain others. She literally lives for the sake of dating her. But let's assume that Josie went to California and broke up with Maya. Then everything Maya did doesn't make any sense. She doesn't need to go in Hots. It's enough for her to tell her father that she started dating a guy and the problem is solved. It is very strange that our triangle has not yet decided to play like this. Play a fake and fictitious couple. This is the easiest way.

It's like you've never even heard of the concept of an abusive parent. Even without Josy, getting out from under her father's control makes Maya's life better.

 

[Lightaces]

Maya is trying to get away from her abusive father's control.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Deleted member 4058708]

okay i know im late to the party but i finished episode 8. i might play through all the episodes again because i think i messed up Jill's path haha. I stuck with her but then also with Isabella and Jill saw what the MC and Isabella did in her house and walked away. I had 2 saves, one which had ALL the main girls like the MC (from the mod) and the other was mainly Jill's path with some of Isabella. so my question is and i probably know the answer to but i want to clarify, what do i gotta do to make sure the MC and Jill are a thing? I know Maya and Josy are close to MC from the start as well.

 

[ciberma7865]

okay i know im late to the party but i finished episode 8. i might play through all the episodes again because i think i messed up Jill's path haha. I stuck with her but then also with Isabella and Jill saw what the MC and Isabella did in her house and waked away. I had 2 saves, one which had ALL the main girls like the MC (from the mod) and the other was mainly Jill's path with some of Isabella. so my question is and i probably know the answer to but i want to clarify, what do i gotta do to make sure the MC and Jill are a thing? I know Maya and Josy are close to MC from the start as well.

You need to kiss her on the night MC become a dik (you can kiss her before on teh first date but this one lock you in Jill path), then you need to go on birthday date with her (don't call sage when she's sick), then fight for her after the double tennis, (after that she should invite you to a dinner with her friends) help her when she go on stage. All of that while you are in neutral or chick affinity (if you are in dick affinity she will reject you in the end)

 

[Deleted member 4058708]

You need to kiss her on the night MC become a dik (you can kiss her before on teh first date but this one lock you in Jill path), then you need to go on birthday date with her (don't call sage when she's sick), then fight for her after the double tennis, (after that she should invite you to a dinner with her friends) help her when she go on stage. All of that while you are in neutral or chick affinity (if you are in dick affinity she will reject you in the end)

ahh i see what i did wrong then, i did pretty much all those. but i think the affinity was in dik path. Thank you for the help!

 

[ciberma7865]

In my opinion, these two screenshots express best that a real friendship for life develops between Sage and the MC.

Madness. Super made DPC.

I love this one

 

[ename144]

Maya is so fixated on the idea of being with Josie that she doesn't pay attention to the fact that her actions can cause pain others. She literally lives for the sake of dating her. But let's assume that Josie went to California and broke up with Maya. Then everything Maya did doesn't make any sense. She doesn't need to go in Hots. It's enough for her to tell her father that she started dating a guy and the problem is solved. It is very strange that our triangle has not yet decided to play like this. Play a fake and fictitious couple. This is the easiest way.

First of all, that solution requires that the MC commit to the throuple, which only just happened. The ruse wouldn't work if the MC is still dating others, or if he might not stick around for the long haul.

But second and more important, it's not going to solve much of anything. Patrick isn't just against Maya being a lesbian, he's trying to control all aspects of Maya's life. Remember, he started to insist Maya get a solo room the instant she had a roommate, even if he liked the MC. The idea that the MC could get Patrick to back off just by publicly posing as Maya's boyfriend is ignoring the full scale of the problem.

Several candidates? Who do you think could it be?
I'm just wondering

J.A.L. already mentioned Quinn and Riona. I'd add Neil to that list; the death of a mentor is about as classic a trope as there is in coming of age stories. (Obviously I'm *hoping* all of them will survive.)

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Errr, yes, nice picture and all. But we already know Zoey will play a big role in the Interlude, DPC. Do you have anything new to add?

Daaamn, look at all those new Zoey simps on the thread
We need to scroll back to like 2-3 weeks ago when mostly everyone was complaining about her, now look at this new positive sentiment around her
She looks great, cannot wait for when the Interlude is released

Please don't make me regret promising to lay off my concerns about Zoey.

I have to check with you guys, if you played through the Josy/Maya path and Josy sex cleanly after the HOT party in EP7, do you have an entry in the Scene Gallery. Maybe it's a bug.

For me it is only see when I play with mod.

If you are asking whether the quick sex scene with Josy (if she goes home with you after the HOT party) shows up in the unmodded gallery, the answer is no.

Oh F you Shazba, I had to turn off my Spotify right in the middle of a Tom Petty song to respond to this crap.

Anyway, I refuse to compromise with anyone defending Maya in this scene. This scene is the absolute focal point of my dislike for that character, and all characters like her. There is no defense of her selfishness and manipulation here. Dear God, she's so self centered it's a wonder that other characters aren't ripped apart by her gravitational field.

This is probably a hopeless endeavor, but you'd need to be able to see the scene from Maya's point of view. At that time she'd only known the MC for a few days, and she considers the free tuition vital to her future. So even if she *hates* what happened, the fact of the matter is she still needs to make out with someone and that's just more important to Maya than patching things up with the MC. But since asking to make out with the MC is the least unpalatable option for her, she does so. It's possible she also intended to apologize to him afterwards, or thought that ignoring him to make out with someone else might make things even worse, but that's just speculation.

I think it's fair to say she should have led with an apology before asking (to put it mildly). And I definitely think she should have apologized immediately if the MC refused to make out with her (rather than claiming it wasn't her fault). But I'm not contending that Maya isn't selfish at times. I'm just saying that it's possible for characters to be selfish without being completely narcistic megalomaniacs who see people purely as toys for their own aggrandizement.

I understand why a lot of players aren’t looking forward to Zoey’s return.

The mc’s made all these new friends, found new love and suddenly someone from his past, who we as readers don’t know very well, is gate crashing.

When the ex showed up in “Three Rules of Life” (I think that was the game), I just bailed. Same as College Kings or one of those games.

But fuck me if I’m not hyped for Zoey. I liked her sass in the flashback story, and she looks like she’s only gotten finer since.

If DPC does this right, by the end of the interlude a heap of readers are gonna change their tune about her and they will be all aboard on the blue train.

Interestingly, I felt the opposite about "3RoL" because in that game it's clear that the MC's own behavior in the breakup with his ex-gf left massive scars on the his psyche. There was a huge amount of baggage that needed to be dealt with, regardless of whether the MC ever encountered the ex again or not.

But that's not the case here in BaDIK. Zoey and the MC split up amicably. In retrospect the MC realized she meant more to him than he'd thought, but even that is more of an intellectual observation than a real regret. She's just like the other LIs in the wake of the crossroad, a path not traveled.

Naomi in 3RoL filled a role no one else could. Zoey in BaDIK is stuck in a role anyone else could fill (and in some playthroughs, already have). At best, Zoey simplifies the game by serving the same role in all the branches, but even that has to be balanced against the time spent bringing her up to speed (and adding yet another path to an already crowded game going forward).

 

[Lightaces]

No. Maya is fixated on being able to continue attending college. So she can be with the people she is happy with and who are happy with her.

Maya is such a devil. I should mention that this is my sarcasm.

Seriously - not wanting to be controlled by an abusive father - what a bitch![/sarcasm]

 

[Ilhares]

I really doubt that Zoey will become another LI. We just spent 8 episodes bonding with the cast and only now she comes into the picture.

I think she'll be a reliable fallback option.

While yes, we (the players behind MC) have been playing it for years now and had those 8 episodes, do keep in mind that for the MC himself while Zoey's been gone a while he's only been at college for about 2 months. He spent years with Zoey building that relationship. There's a granite foundation already established under that relationship, even if the rafters are a bit dusty now.

 

[DavDR]

This is probably a hopeless endeavor, but you'd need to be able to see the scene from Maya's point of view. At that time she'd only known the MC for a few days, and she considers the free tuition vital to her future. So even if she *hates* what happened, the fact of the matter is she still needs to make out with someone and that's just more important to Maya than patching things up with the MC. But since asking to make out with the MC is the least unpalatable option for her, she does so. It's possible she also intended to apologize to him afterwards, or thought that ignoring him to make out with someone else might make things even worse, but that's just speculation.

I think it's fair to say she should have led with an apology before asking (to put it mildly). And I definitely think she should have apologized immediately if the MC refused to make out with her (rather than claiming it wasn't her fault). But I'm not contending that Maya isn't selfish at times. I'm just saying that it's possible for characters to be selfish without being completely narcistic megalomaniacs who see people purely as toys for their own aggrandizement.

Why rely on all of this speculation about what Maya thinks and feels? We have a perfect example in her internal dialogue while she's sexually assaulting MC. I won't post all of the screenshots, you can replay the scene. The first thing that will strike you is that she's not thinking about the MC at all, she's just thinking about herself, as usual.

I know that you can think of endless excuses for Maya's behavior. There's always a reason, It's her Father's fault, it's the way society treats homosexuals, it's because she's a woman blah ba blah blah blah . . .

It's easy to make excuses, but the fact is there is no excuse. I won't even argue the point. And I'm sure you can find examples of the MC or other characters acting selfishly. I don't care. None of them are even close to Maya.

You seem to think that all of this makes a person who should be pitied. I know that this only makes for a person who is poisonous and is a plague on everyone who is unfortunate enough to fall into their orbit.

 

[Kellermann]

If DPC does this right, by the end of the interlude a heap of readers are gonna change their tune about her and they will be all aboard on the blue train.

Uh no. Zoey is an inane waste of resources. Her storyline schtick will be reacquainting with a character I never knew and rekindling love that I never had or felt to begin with. We're already at maximum density with love interests in this game and all DPC (who despises harems) will do is use it as one more piece of bait for his punishment fetish when you so much as look in her direction...or any other girl's for that matter in season 3. Why else would he bring her back now when he has just steered you to monogamy in ep. 8? Zoey will be only the first in a long line of forced situational temptations in season 3. (If you thought women clawing at your dick in S1 & S2 were thirsty, wait until you see what DPC does now that you have a committed relationship.) Fortunately, she is a hard pass for me, but it makes the interlude pointless for those of us who don't like her. And make no mistake, the rotten blueberry will be served up with a heaping side dish of drama.

Honestly, I don't care about any more of MC's back story (just like I don't care about the insufferable Lynette montages). I connect so much more with MC from university arrival forward because it is the player's story at that point. (Visual Novel > Kinetic Novel) You can mostly follow your own path and pursue whomever you choose. Don't force feed me a love interest. Same reason I didn't like Megan from AL.
And also, FUCK blue hair dye.

 

[varage]

So, according to you, Maya feels physically menaced by Quinn, and instead of running away at the first opportunity screaming to call campus security to help her and her friend Tremolo, she grabs one of Tremolo´s legs to help Quinn, Sarah and Melanie to carry naked knocked out Tremolo through the campus to the DIK´s house... And then, she continues trying to be accepted into a fraternity in which she feels physically menaced... Is she stupid, coward, a submissive masochist... or all the previous...?

I would also say Maya has low self-esteem the fact that she stood up to Quinn and slapped her in the face was a Marical. (Shout out to flashback of her being asked to "dance" at her school dance.) she also tried to get help from Sage which backfired horribly once. Who's to say she wouldn't be thinking why bother when going to the Counciler about it. Besides without knowledge of conciliar being in on it which would turn out badly. Is he said she said. Not to mention the only menaced thing that she really did was hazing which I'm sure they turn a blind eye to anyway. The only thing Maya had a problem with thanks to MC or Josy depending on route. Is not getting free tuition.
You go to anyone high up on the ladder saying she said I could have it. Well, we back to square one. HE said SHE said. she'd have no ground to stand on. Also, we still don't know what happened between SAGE and MAYA obviously they opened up about their problems, but she has more friends in the hots then enemies. Also, I'm sure she is trusting in Sage and Josy to keep her safe while in there.

 

[varage]

BEING A CHICK OR HOW CHICK WILL BECOME THE DRAMA KING IN SEASON 3​

Some of my reflections on the way of chick and why I think chick is the main hypocrite in history


So, friends, here is my small and messy essay dedicated to the way of Chick.

By default, Chick is considered a gentle, pleasant and polite young man who wants to please everyone. He makes nice compliments to girls, does not stare at them and is not rude, he is nice and friendly. It's no wonder that the charming Chick liked five girls in college who fell in love with him at once. And then the most interesting thing begins. My favorite phrase is MС: "IT'S TOO COMPLICATED," which is the unofficial motto of all fucking hypocrites.
As the story develops and Chick's connection with other girls deepens, things get more complicated. Cute Chick runs from one girl to another and actually starts dating five beauties at the same time.
As the story develops and Chick's connection with other girls deepens, things get more complicated. Cute Chick runs from one girl to another and actually starts dating five beauties at the same time. All this is compounded at the legendary breakfast in episode 8, when a choice has to be made. But what does this choice lead to?
1) Jill loses two most main people in her life in one minute after seeing Bella and Tremolo fucking on the table.

Spoiler: Jill

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2) Bella accepts rejection relatively well, but her face reflects the whole tragedy of the rejected woman. She was ready to let Tremolo into her life, but she was immediately rejected.

Spoiler: Bella

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3)Josie is madly in love with Tremolo, she constantly shines next to him. How would she react when she found out he was rejecting her for Jill? Especially when the issue of free tuition is being resolved?He didn't even tell Josie and Maya about it!

Spoiler: Josy

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4)Well, and Sage...She doesn't care.

Yes, you can object to me that this is one of the ways of walktrough the game. I don't have to act like a dik in the way of a Chick.
BUT THE GAME WANTS THAT WE PLAYED QUITE SO!
If we stick to the path of one girl (for example, Jill) and reject others, then there is absolutely no point in episode 8. Episode 8 forces us to make a choice, that's the whole point. Elena said that the choice will entail suffering, pain and jealousy of other girls and you have to do it no matter what.
If we follow Jill's path, then the choice is obvious. One choice out of one. There are no other options, no agony of choice. Then the episode should have been called: "The Only One" or "Jill".
There are at least three scenes of Josie and Jill's jealousy in the game. 1) When Josie finds out that MC wants to date Jill (he tells her this in the pool before fucking her) 2) When Jill finds out that MC fucked other girls 3) The scene in the library. Too many scenes, isn't it? DPC literally wants to push Josie and Jill's foreheads together.
Let's compare it with Dik's way. Dik is rejected by almost all girls except Sage. And they reject it without any dramas and doubts. In fact, Dik does not need to make a choice. The girls made the choice for you. In fact, the only drama that Dik has is to make Riana cum when he manages to fuck Heather and Jade. Perhaps only Jade is a serious problem.
The way of Dik is the way of fun. Dik is a fool, of course, but he is an honest fool who does not lie to anyone. And Chick is a hypocrite who offers to meet almost every girl. He gets confused, often falls in love and eventually breaks their hearts. He behaves like an infantile boy.

I will concede your point on this but you're missing one thing. The Dik is not better then the Chick in this case because if the Girls DIDN'T make the choice for him. Then he'd hurt them and not even care about it. It's not that he's more morally upstanding to the Dik because if he got the chance. He would do the exact same thing on purpose that the Chick did on accident. He's just not given the opportunity.

 

[ename144]

Why rely on all of this speculation about what Maya thinks and feels? We have a perfect example in her internal dialogue while she's sexually assaulting MC. I won't post all of the screenshots, you can replay the scene. The first thing that will strike you is that she's not thinking about the MC at all, she's just thinking about herself, as usual.

I know that you can think of endless excuses for Maya's behavior. There's always a reason, It's her Father's fault, it's the way society treats homosexuals, it's because she's a woman blah ba blah blah blah . . .

It's easy to make excuses, but the fact is there is no excuse. I won't even argue the point. And I'm sure you can find examples of the MC or other characters acting selfishly. I don't care. None of them are even close to Maya.

You seem to think that all of this makes a person who should be pitied. I know that this only makes for a person who is poisonous and is a plague on everyone who is unfortunate enough to fall into their orbit.

See, you have a strong argument; Maya's thought's don't include what she's doing to the MC despite having abused him pretty severely AND continuing to conceal a rather significant secret. Maya being selfish and manipulative is a valid interpretation of that.

My only objection it's not the ONLY valid interpretation. If you aren't interested in debating those interpretations, I think it would behoove you to be a little less strident in hammering relentlessly on your own. It would make your argument more persuasive, and reduce the temperature of the thread to boot.

 

[varage]

Anyone else find it strange that Maya's okay with Dik MC and it's Jose that turns you down when you are a Dik. Not Maya thats kinda interesting imho.Maya=dont like dik MC. Josy=loves dik MC but Josy closes it down not Maya.