VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Olsens.M]

Has it struck you that DPC has dropped a lot of potential bombs into the Sage path?

The Restaurant

Affair with Jade

Affair with Quinn

Even punching Tybalt

Then think about how easy it is to get on the Sage path, it starts to feel like DPC is setting the player up for a fall.

The only bad thing in sage's path is the affair with Jade. She doesn't like Tybalt either (even though on my gameplay I didnt hit him, sometimes you have to be smarter.). the fact that "the restaurant" is happening under her nose, the so called president of HOTs, is her fault. If she doesn't pay attention on what happens inside her own house, she is the problem. Everyone knows and uses the services while she is in Disney. MC is a freshman and knows more about what happens inside HOTs than her. He even tried to warn her and open her eyes about Quinn.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Everyone here knows that the drama is Maya, no one else all of you should be Quinn haters

She and others characters will have no dramas, they stories are like a fairy tale, everything is pink, full of rainbows and unicorns and if you say otherwise

I will become a psychologist

 

[PashafromRussia]

Has it struck you that DPC has dropped a lot of potential bombs into the Sage path?

The Restaurant

Affair with Jade

Affair with Quinn

Even punching Tybalt

Then think about how easy it is to get on the Sage path, it starts to feel like DPC is setting the player up for a fall.

It's not as bad as you think. I think Sage will easily accept the fact that MС fucked other girls for money. Besides, she knows how popular MC is and girls like that Riо and Camilla don't charge him for sex, lol. Having an affair with Jade and with Quinn is definitely a problem, but I think if we go in Sage's way there will be a chance to tell her the truth. And yes, it's unlikely that all the shit will fall on Sage right away, DPC will serve the drama gradually, dosed. If you remember Maya, then the drama with her father also fell unexpectedly, but now the drama with her father has faded into the background.

 

[Olsens.M]

There is a difference between drug use (perhaps legal) and drug sales (illegal).

Yes. But that is very common in a college life and most of people move on from this once they graduate, or even earlier than that. She is dealing (crime), doesn't mean she is gonna do this forever. Let's see how dpc will write the next episodes.

 

[J.A.L.]

It's not as bad as you think. I think Sage will easily accept the fact that MС fucked other girls for money. Besides, she knows how popular MC is and girls like that Riо and Camilla don't charge him for sex, lol.

I think the problem would not be exactly Tremolo fucking HOTs for money (although I don´t think Sage would be OK with that), but Tremolo knowing first hand (not only having suspicions) about Quinn using the HOTs as a coverture for her dirty business, and not telling her.

Sage is the president of the HOTs, and, if there is some kind of scandal related with the HOTs, she´s going to be responsible of that, even if she was in the dark about it. Something that Sage hates, we already know, is dishonesty. One of the main things that make Sage be fond of Tremolo is that Tremolo always sticks her side and doesn´t lie or hide things from her. If Tremolo was maintaining Sage blind about the things that are happening inside her own fraternity because he was involved in it (even if just as a client), I think is going to be a deal breaker for Sage.

 

[J.A.L.]

Question: how would you translate "to hit things up"? That´s something that Lily says to Tremolo: "two people who stick together and do shit. Fuck, party, hit things up..."

 

[Olsens.M]

She may not always do it, but she has. Ergo, the offense of trafficking in illegal substances is fulfilled. With luck, the statute of limitations will expire. But this takes a long time.

Bro you are going too technical into it. She can do it and stop doing it before even get caught. So there is no reason to go all technical into the trafficking offense matter. We already know it is not legal, the thing is, we don't know what happens from now on in the game. Only DPC can tell. She may stop doing it, she may continue doing it and never get caught. She may get caught and strike a deal to deliver big figures of trafficking and the ones responsible inside the college to the police and go free into witness protection. We don't know. Only I gave 3-4 different outcomes to the story of what can happen in her current situation. Many more can happen. She can die. She can sell and get rich and go live in a parasidiac island. lol. So lets not get so technical into this specific matter.

 

[PashafromRussia]

I think the problem would not be exactly Tremolo fucking HOTs for money (although I don´t think Sage would be OK with that), but Tremolo knowing first hand (not only having suspicions) about Quinn using the HOTs as a coverture for her dirty business, and not telling her.

Sage is the president of the HOTs, and, if there is some kind of scandal related with the HOTs, she´s going to be responsible of that, even if she was in the dark about it. Something that Sage hates, we already know, is dishonesty. One of the main things that make Sage be fond of Tremolo is that Tremolo always sticks her side and doesn´t lie or hide things from her. If Tremolo was maintaining Sage blind about the things that are happening inside her own fraternity because he was involved in it (even if just as a client), I think is going to be a deal breaker for Sage.

But we haven't had a chance to talk about it yet. Neither in the way of the Chiсk and neither in the way of the Dik. The main character did not touch on this topic at all. I think if Sage finds Mona, she'll know everything. I am sure that DPC will push HOTs against Sage and we will have to choose. Because imagine 2 seasons you talked with Riona, Camilla, Lily and Quinn. You became attached to them, became friends. And when all the shit comes out, you'll need to take someone's side. Although perhaps Rio will become an ally, considering how much we helped her and the fact that she began to move away from Quinn.

 

[DavDR]

Question: how would you translate "to hit things up"? That´s something that Lily says to Tremolo: "two people who stick together and do shit. Fuck, party, hit things up..."

I'm a native english speaker and I didn't get that either. it must be swedlish

 

[kyrlian]

Yes. But that is very common in a college life and most of people move on from this once they graduate, or even earlier than that. She is dealing (crime), doesn't mean she is gonna do this forever. Let's see how dpc will write the next episodes.

I bet that will be a part of her redemption path if she gets one, and It involves actually studying something.

But this is not Quinn's problem only, at least six girls are involved (Riona, Camila, Lily, Sarah, Melanie), DPC cant bust the HOTs shady business and lose half the cast of the game. Probably Jill or Sage will come to the rescue, they are rich girls, how about a foundation\NGO for girls with money problems.

 

[Olsens.M]

I think the problem would not be exactly Tremolo fucking HOTs for money (although I don´t think Sage would be OK with that), but Tremolo knowing first hand (not only having suspicions) about Quinn using the HOTs as a coverture for her dirty business, and not telling her.

Sage is the president of the HOTs, and, if there is some kind of scandal related with the HOTs, she´s going to be responsible of that, even if she was in the dark about it. Something that Sage hates, we already know, is dishonesty. One of the main things that make Sage be fond of Tremolo is that Tremolo always sticks her side and doesn´t lie or hide things from her. If Tremolo was maintaining Sage blind about the things that are happening inside her own fraternity because he was involved in it (even if just as a client), I think is going to be a deal breaker for Sage.

That just bring us to one conclusion. She should be more aware of her surroundings. MC can't do all the job for her. It is the same thing with Maya. People always has to be there to solve her problems. The only way MC will know exactly about Quinn selling the girls is if he uses the service. If he doesn't he will only have an idea but no proof. With that being said, he could never tell it to Sage if he didn't use her services. And Since he uses or have used at least once, He should be given the chance to tell her about it, specially when he stays with her at HOTs and talks to her about Quinn in her room on EP 4. So if DPC didn't give us the option to tell her about it is because he may or may not use it in the future.
If you pay attention, There is a part on ep3 that MC can choose in tell Maya about Quinn's operation, but even then he is not clear about what exactly Quinn does to the girls. He only tells her to be careful. If he wanted to be honest or talk about it, he would tell her that Quinn has an escort service and that is probably how they pay for their tuition, but he doesn't really tell her what Quinn does.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The game within the game.

Isabella Icequeen's shield thaws. When Sage finds out what her dad is doing in secret, what's going on at the HOT's and the MC fucked her mom, Being a DIK has a new Icequeen.

Mc with Sage may make the situation worse, but the problems he will have to face are real and quite complicated.

Sage could really lose everything, and her drama started with the loss of what she thought was the love of her life, which at the end of the road will be nothing...

 

[J.A.L.]

But we haven't had a chance to talk about it yet. Neither in the way of the Chiсk and neither in the way of the Dik. The main character did not touch on this topic at all. I think if Sage finds Mona, she'll know everything.

Yeah, that´s one of the weird things about that subplot. Tremolo acts as if nothing would be happening.
It makes sense if he´s a "client" of the restaurant. He keeps the secret, for his own good. If not a client, my interpretation is that he can´t say something clear to Sage because he doesn´t have actually any evidence, only suspicions.

I think that at some point, Sage is going to know that Quinn is making a whorehouse of the fraternity, and Sage is going to go ballistic about that, being the president of the HOTs and responsible of the fraternity and all. Sage is going to confront Trmeolo about it, and there will be a HUGE difference between being a client or not. If Tremolo is not a client, he can say to Sage "I had my suspicions, but I have never told you because it was only that, suspicions, and I didn´t want to spoil your friendship with Quinn without evidences" and Sage will be OK with that. If Tremolo is a client... what is he going to tell Sage? Probably it doesn´t matter: Sage will consider him a traitor and despise him anyway.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah, that´s one of the weird things about that subplot. Tremolo acts as if nothing would be happening.
It makes sense if he´s a "client" of the restaurant. He keeps the secret, for his own good. If not a client, my interpretation is that he can´t say something clear to Sage because he doesn´t have actually any evidence, only suspicions.

I think that at some point, Sage is going to know that Quinn is making a whorehouse of the fraternity, and Sage is going to go ballistic about that, being the president of the HOTs and responsible of the fraternity and all. Sage is going to confront Trmeolo about it, and there will be a HUGE difference between being a client or not. If Tremolo is not a client, he can say to Sage "I had my suspicions, but I have never told you because it was only that, suspicions, and I didn´t want to spoil your friendship with Quinn without evidences" and Sage will be OK with that. If Tremolo is a client... what is he going to tell Sage? Probably it doesn´t matter: Sage will consider him a traitor and despise him anyway.

but even if he is a customer of the restaurant, he should at least have some sense of guilt, instead he simply pretends not to do anything.

with MC we can know what he's thinking, the complete silence about Quinn (of course especially if he's not in a relationship with her) is deafening.

 

[dalli_x]

Bro you are going too technical into it. She can do it and stop doing it before even get caught. So there is no reason to go all technical into the trafficking offense matter. We already know it is not legal, the thing is, we don't know what happens from now on in the game. Only DPC can tell. She may stop doing it, she may continue doing it and never get caught. She may get caught and strike a deal to deliver big figures of trafficking and the ones responsible inside the college to the police and go free into witness protection. We don't know. Only I gave 3-4 different outcomes to the story of what can happen in her current situation. Many more can happen. She can die. She can sell and get rich and go live in a parasidiac island. lol. So lets not get so technical into this specific matter.

MarkOlsen is infected by dalli_x. He starts to theorize uand speculate. I think this is great. Keep it up.

 

[Olsens.M]

It's not as bad as you think. I think Sage will easily accept the fact that MС fucked other girls for money. Besides, she knows how popular MC is and girls like that Riо and Camilla don't charge him for sex, lol. Having an affair with Jade and with Quinn is definitely a problem, but I think if we go in Sage's way there will be a chance to tell her the truth. And yes, it's unlikely that all the shit will fall on Sage right away, DPC will serve the drama gradually, dosed. If you remember Maya, then the drama with her father also fell unexpectedly, but now the drama with her father has faded into the background.

But Sage already knows Quinn has a thing for mc, or at least suspect, and when she asks if he likes her on Ep4, at least my MC tells her the truth (yes). and even knowing that she wants to fuck him lol. And later on EP 8, knowing that Quinn has a thing for MC and MC told her he likes Quinn, she has a 3some with both. She can't see an affair of MC and Quinn as a problem. Lets take in account that she is a cheater. She has fucked and kissed MC being in a relationship with Chad. So she isn't trustworthy either. She could have broken up with Chad and fuck whoever she wanted, but she kept her relationship and was fucking with tremolo. So why she would bitch about he fucking other girls, including Quinn. The only one she could possibly bich about is he having an affair with Jade, but she never told him that Jade was her mother and had no way she'd know that untill the end up EP 8. You guys are talking about Sage like if she is perfect and only tremolo is fucking things up. He is doing what any young man would do. Having his fun at the college. You guys are too judgy lol. He is a young boy at the college, he has to explore and experience things. So far he doesn't owe Sage anything. They are only fuck buddies. Your decisions will only matter from the moment you both decide to give the relationship a go.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Yeah, that´s one of the weird things about that subplot. Tremolo acts as if nothing would be happening.
It makes sense if he´s a "client" of the restaurant. He keeps the secret, for his own good. If not a client, my interpretation is that he can´t say something clear to Sage because he doesn´t have actually any evidence, only suspicions.

I think that at some point, Sage is going to know that Quinn is making a whorehouse of the fraternity, and Sage is going to go ballistic about that, being the president of the HOTs and responsible of the fraternity and all. Sage is going to confront Trmeolo about it, and there will be a HUGE difference between being a client or not. If Tremolo is not a client, he can say to Sage "I had my suspicions, but I have never told you because it was only that, suspicions, and I didn´t want to spoil your friendship with Quinn without evidences" and Sage will be OK with that. If Tremolo is a client... what is he going to tell Sage? Probably it doesn´t matter: Sage will consider him a traitor and despise him anyway.

Well, MС can answer something like: "Yes, I fucked them and paid them for money. But at least they didn't have to fuck with old people." Although I don't know how much this explanation will suit Sage. But I don't think the restaurant will play any key role. Because otherwise the whole Dik way with outside girls doesn't make sense at all. Why would we go the way of Dik if Sage would break up with Tremolo anyway? It seems to me that there will be several small choices on Sage's path that will affect him in the future. In Chapter 8, we could have told the truth about Chad, or we could have kept silent. In chapter 9, perhaps we will tell Sage that we fucked Jade. She'll get angry, but eventually she'll forgive. That's how I see it.

 

[Olsens.M]

MarkOlsen is infected by dalli_x. He starts to theorize uand speculate. I think this is great. Keep it up.

well you made me think about outcomes because most of comments here are putting my LI in jail lol.

 

[J.A.L.]

That just bring us to one conclusion. She should be more aware of her surroundings. MC can't do all the job for her. It is the same thing with Maya. People always has to be there to solve her problems. The only way MC will know exactly about Quinn selling the girls is if he uses the service. If he doesn't he will only have an idea but no proof. With that being said, he could never tell it to Sage if he didn't use her services. And Since he uses or have used at least once, He should be given the chance to tell her about it, specially when he stays with her at HOTs and talks to her about Quinn in her room on EP 4. So if DPC didn't give us the option to tell her about it is because he may or may not use it in the future.
If you pay attention, There is a part on ep3 that MC can choose in tell Maya about Quinn's operation, but even then he is not clear about what exactly Quinn does to the girls. He only tells her to be careful. If he wanted to be honest or talk about it, he would tell her that Quinn has an escort service and that is probably how they pay for their tuition, but he doesn't really tell her what Quinn does.

Sage hasn´t been the best president of the HOTs, right?
I suppose that the idea of DPC is that Sage has been so obsessed with her awful relationship with Chad and so busy following him around with a pair of binoculars that has left aside most of the business of the HOTs in Quinn´s hands, and we know what Quinn has made with that responsibility.

Now, Sage don´t need to worry about Chad any more, has a calmer state of mind, and has started to take the reins of the HOTs again. So probably, at some point is going to see that weird things are being happening into her fraternity. Probably the first big "eye opener" is going to be Mona. If she is able to talk with her, she´s going to know, or at least start to know that Quinn has been a lousy friend and a disloyal vice president. It will depend of the previous behavior of Tremolo if he´s able to save his relationship with Sage or is going to be a shitstorm for him.

 

[J.A.L.]

Well, MС can answer something like: "Yes, I fucked them and paid them for money. But at least they didn't have to fuck with old people." Although I don't know how much this explanation will suit Sage. But I don't think the restaurant will play any key role. Because otherwise the whole Dik way with outside girls doesn't make sense at all. Why would we go the way of Dik if Sage would break up with Tremolo anyway? It seems to me that there will be several small choices on Sage's path that will affect him in the future. In Chapter 8, we could have told the truth about Chad, or we could have kept silent. In chapter 9, perhaps we will tell Sage that we fucked Jade. She'll get angry, but eventually she'll forgive. That's how I see it.

I think that DIK Tremolo that is client of the restaurant simply doesn´t have any future with Sage. Maybe with Quinn or Lily, but no Sage. DIK Tremolo that is not client of the restaurant has future with Sage... if didn´t fall into the others booby traps that DPC set in his path, of course. But being a client of Quinn is going to be a deal breaker, with Sage, the same way fucking Bella will be a deal breaker with Jill for CHIK Tremolo.