VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[J.A.L.]

I know it's almost 2022 and all, but I think I speak for the more traditional guys when I say we still prefer our girls not to have balls...


Everyone who suggests this always misses the point:

DPC would get nothing out of doing that.

He would have to pay them and he would have to check everything they do, and if he's as pedantic as he comes across, it would just be a headache for him. So why would he do it?

To get the game out faster? Why does he need to do that? The longer this game takes the more money he makes. Now I'm not suggesting he drag his feet (which I don't believe he is doing, I get the impression he actually works long hours on the job), but there is no incentive to speed things up further.

From everything we read, he really likes doing the job. So why palm if off to others?

If you can work full time on something you enjoy, and at the end you can look back and say, "I did that on my own", meanwhile, make a fucking load of cash doing it. Why would you get others to speed it along?

Nope, there's really no reason for him to hurry things up. We just don't want to wait so long, but that's all there is to it.

Yeah, I do strongly prefer girls without balls too. I just made a literal translation of a Spanish expression.

I said something similar to what you are saying in another comment. Patreon´s system induces to long development times. If a dev is receiving a regular income every month from Patreon, why would he want to finish his game? I would appeal to the dev´s responsibility with his patrons. Not make them feel that they are being milked. And I´m pretty sure that, if DPC announces that he has externalized some minor works like secondary renders or some coding tasks, in order of releasing updates faster, even if it´s only a couple of weeks or so, it would be greatly appreciated. Maybe he would get more patrons that way. But I suppose the dude thinks he´s doing well now and there is no reason to change.

But that thing of "I´m perfectionist", "I don´t work well with others" and etc. it´s just DPC bullshitting his patrons.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Another day without knowing who i want, bella is just perfect but the age thing, jill is the sweetest girl, and sage is hot but sweet in this last episodes
Who would you choose?

I chose Sage, she is beautiful, caring and funny. But all her shit is very far-fetched, lol. Because it's hard for me to believe that Sage didn't know that literally all of her friends smoked weed and fucked for money. They hung out at all the parties together. Because if Sage really didn't know, she needs to step down as president. This is an incredible manifestation of negligence and frivolity. I hope DPC doesn't slip into an explanation like "she was fixated on Chad," because that explanation is crap.

 

[J.A.L.]

they are in a trouple, doing things together should be the norm not the exception. every time they take individual intimate moments they actually move away from the troupe, when Josy says she likes him to call her his girlfriend, that she feels safe with him, she actually moves away from the troupe.
they didn't sleep together even once in season 2.
I don't see what MC's statement has to do with it, it's ok to have sex with each other but not together?

Do you think that DPC is going to have the balls to create a plotline in which a white straight guy steals her girlfriend to a lesbian? In 2021?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Do you think that DPC is going to have the balls to create a plotline in which a white straight guy steals her girlfriend to a lesbian? In 2021?

for the way DPC has handled the story so far I find it more hard to see how it could go differently... in chapter 7 the trouple seemed more dead than alive
it's a continuous sneaking around, Josy is specialized in talking bad about Maya when she's absent

DPC wants to keep his patreons happy, so the ending in which the two girls separate will be there for sure, 100%, probably in a way in which MC doesn't look too much like the culprit of this separation (when he clearly is), more certain than the one that the 3 make it through their story, which is very likely, but in my opinion less certain.

I got into the controversy about DPC's progressivism once and it was resolved with the usual barricades, for me BADIK is a porn game and therefore it's not feminist by definition, Maya and Josy's homosexuality is a narrative tool that serves to turn the situation in MC's favour and to have two LIs that even if they aren't are as if they were virgins, and the patreons gloat

 

[J.A.L.]

I chose Sage, she is beautiful, caring and funny. But all her shit is very far-fetched, lol. Because it's hard for me to believe that Sage didn't know that literally all of her friends smoked weed and fucked for money. They hung out at all the parties together. Because if Sage really didn't know, she needs to step down as president. This is an incredible manifestation of negligence and frivolity. I hope DPC doesn't slip into an explanation like "she was fixated on Chad," because that explanation is crap.

She could know that her friends smoke weed. It´s not such a big thing. But I´m pretty sure that she doesn´t know that they are dealing with weed and pills (even coke, at least once), and whoring themselves to students and to her own father. How it benefits her to allow that into the HOTs? She doesn´t need money, her parents are loaded. And you could say "yes, but she doesn´t like to accept help from them". Well, the whole point for Sage is to show her parents that she can be an independent woman and not a preppy like Tybald, for example. I don´t think that being part of a ring of drugs and prostitution would show her parents that she´s and independent woman, but a fucking moron that endangers her future. It would be stupid for DPC to create the plot twist of Sage being part of Quinn´s business.

Anyways, as far as I know, there isn´t a single clue in the game that could indicate that Sage knows something about Quinn´s business. And yes, I suppose the official explanation is Quinn has been cautious about her business, and Sage has been so obsessed with Chad´s situation, following him with binoculars and trying to find a poor idiot to convince to spy him that she has been blind for everything. I would call it "a weak pass", using Rusty's words. But it´s not the only weak pass in BaDIK plotlines or the worst one, at all. Anyway, she´s the girl that didn´t know that her long-term boyfriend is a hardcore gay, so she´s not the most perceptive person in the world

Now Sage has get rid of Chad and has stuck her head out of her own ass. She has taken the reins of the sorority again, taking care of Maya and Mona´s issues, so I suppose the idea of DPC is that she will be more and more aware of the weird things that are happening into the sorority and, eventually, she will discover Quinn´s business. That day, pandemonium will be released at the HOT´s mansion and DPC´s love for drama will be satisfied.

 

[ffsage]

1. DPC is pretty much getting all of the cake, apart from shit 2D renders and possibly the beta testers, it's all his to eat

How could you call those 2D renders shit man!? They are the Picassos of modern era!

 

[TajaRrR]

I chose Sage, she is beautiful, caring and funny. But all her shit is very far-fetched, lol. Because it's hard for me to believe that Sage didn't know that literally all of her friends smoked weed and fucked for money. They hung out at all the parties together. Because if Sage really didn't know, she needs to step down as president. This is an incredible manifestation of negligence and frivolity. I hope DPC doesn't slip into an explanation like "she was fixated on Chad," because that explanation is crap.

I bet she know about weed because it's no big deal. About dealing with drugs, how could she know? Only Rio and now Lily knows from HOTs so it is secret so it's possible that she don't know because it's kept from everybody very good.
About fucking for money, I mean they all go to parties and fuck with some guy so how should she know it can be for money? Girls don't discuss it in the middle of the room, like with drugs, everything is kept under the table, they call Quinn restaurant, order sushi and that's it. There is no talk about it, and if it is, they go to Quinn room and noone knows.

 

[PashafromRussia]

She could know that her friends smoke weed. It´s not such a big thing. But I´m pretty sure that she doesn´t know that they are dealing with weed and pills (even coke, at least once), and whoring themselves to students and to her own father. How it benefits her to allow that into the HOTs? She doesn´t need money, her fathers are loaded. And you could say "yes, but she doesn´t like to accept help from them". Well, the whole point for Sage is to show her fathers that she can be an independent woman and not a preppy like Tybald, for example. I don´t think that being part of a ring of drugs and prostitution would show her parents that she´s and independent woman, but a fucking moron that endangers her future. It would be stupid for DPC to create the plot twist of Sage being part of Quinn´s business.

Anyways, as far as I know, there isn´t a single clue in the game that could indicate that Sage knows something about Quinn´s business. And yes, I suppose the official explanation is Quinn has been cautious about her business, and Sage has been so obsessed with Chad´s situation, following him with binocular trying to find a poor idiot to convince to spy him that she has been blind for everything. I would call it "a weak pass", using Rusty's words. But it´s not the only weak pass in BaDIK plotlines or the worst one, at all. Anyway, she´s the girl that didn´t know that her long-term boyfriend is a hardcore gay, so she´s not the most perceptive person in the world

Now Sage has get rid of Chad and has stuck her head out of her own ass. She has taken the reins of the sorority again, taking care of Maya and Mona´s issues, so I suppose the idea of DPC is that she will be more and more aware of the weird things that are happening into the sorority and, eventually, she will discover Quinn´s business. That day, pandemonium will be released at the HOT´s mansion and DPC´s love for drama will be satisfied.

Quinn was selling drugs and girls long before Sage's problems with Chad. Lol, girls go to the men's room in the dining room all the time, could Sage have any questions? It's really shitty written. The second moment Sage voluntarily gave all the power to Quinn. Heather even wonders where their membership fees are spent. I
n fact, there are a lot of strange things with Sage.

She accepted Lily, who works as a stripper in Pink Rose and obviously can provide services of an intimate nature for money. Sage knew that there were a lot of sexual tasks in women's Hell Week, for example, blowjob, sex in public and so on. Well, that is, members of the sisterhood can fuck right and left with anyone, but they can't do it for money. This is different.

 

[PashafromRussia]

I bet she know about weed because it's no big deal. About dealing with drugs, how could she know? Only Rio and now Lily knows from HOTs so it is secret so it's possible that she don't know because it's kept from everybody very good.
About fucking for money, I mean they all go to parties and fuck with some guy so how should she know it can be for money? Girls don't discuss it in the middle of the room, like with drugs, everything is kept under the table, they call Quinn restaurant, order sushi and that's it. There is no talk about it, and if it is, they go to Quinn room and noone knows.

And where did the weed come from on campus? Who sold it? How will the administration look at it if it finds out? Where does the money come from for weed at all? I think yes, she knows that girls smoke weed and she knows that Quinn sells it to HOTs and DIKs.

 

[J.A.L.]

for the way DPC has handled the story so far I find it more hard to see how it could go differently... in chapter 7 the trouple seemed more dead than alive
it's a continuous sneaking around, Josy is specialized in talking bad about Maya when she's absent

DPC wants to keep his patreons happy, so the ending in which the two girls separate will be there for sure, 100%, probably in a way in which MC doesn't look too much like the culprit of this separation (when he clearly is), more certain than the one that the 3 make it through their story, which is very likely, but in my opinion less certain.

I got into the controversy about DPC's progressivism once and it was resolved with the usual barricades, for me BADIK is a porn game and therefore it's not feminist by definition, Maya and Josy's homosexuality is a narrative tool that serves to turn the situation in MC's favour and to have two LIs that even if they aren't are as if they were virgins, and the patreons gloat

We´ll see. It would go against all postmodern political correctness. I know that no screen writer for movies, TV Shows or AAA games in western countries would dare to create a plotline like that one. Otherwise, a lesbian stealing a girl from a man, would be well seen.

BUT... according the poll I created yesterday, everybody (at least here) loves Sage, but Maya not so much... There are only 85 votes, but the tendency has been clear from the beginning: M&J route is the worst valued among the ones of the main Lis. It´s better valued than Lily and Nicole's ones, but I suspect that the reason is those two characters are not main Lis and there isn't a lot of content for them yet.

Even a 26% of the people would like to get rid of Maya in exchange of the return of a really unimportant character like Mona. I suspect that they would like to get rid of her even without the reward of Mona's return as a potential Li Josy, on the other hand, doesn´t generate that kind of repulsion.

I don´t know if that feeling is shared in Patreon (the only place that actually matters), but I suspect that, if DPC creates a path in which Tremolo smoothly operates to steal Josy from Maya´s arms, a lot of people would be glad to follow it with no regrets, and even would enjoy with Maya´s tears.

 

[TajaRrR]

And where did the weed come from on campus? Who sold it? How will the administration look at it if it finds out? Where does the money come from for weed at all? I think yes, she knows that girls smoke weed and she knows that Quinn sells it to HOTs and DIKs.

Why would she care form where weed is and who sells it? There is no problem with campus authorities yet so she don't care. Just like with alcohol it just is there and that's it.
And money for weed comes from selling it, she buys it (for example) for 50 bucks and sells it for 100 boom money and that's it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

We´ll see. It would go against all postmodern political correctness. I know that no screen writer for movies, TV Shows or AAA games in western countries would dare to create a plotline like that one. Otherwise it would be well seen.

BUT... according the poll I created yesterday, everybody (at least here) loves Sage, but Maya not so much... There are only 85 votes, but the tendency has been clear from the beginning: M&J route is the worst valued among the ones of the main Lis. It´s better valued than Lily and Nicole's ones, but I suspect that the reason is those two characters are not main Lis and there isn't a lot of content for them yet.

Even a 26% of the people would like to get rid of Maya in exchange of the return of a really unimportant character like Mona. I suspect that they would like to get rid of her even without the reward of Mona's return as a potential Li Josy, on the other hand, doesn´t generate that kind of repulsion.

I don´t know if that feeling is shared in Patreon (the only place that actually matters), but I suspect that, if DPC creates a path in which Tremolo smoothly operates to steal Josy from Maya´s arms, a lot of people would be glad to follow it with no regrets, and even would enjoy with Maya´s tears.

if the patrons are not attracted by having 2 girls at the same time instead of 1, I would ask myself some questions.

then the liking of the single LI is the most subjective thing that can exist, I like Josy much less than Maya for example

 

[DavDR]

Honestly, the whole "controversial opinion" bit make me think he's actually DavDR.

Drugs are bad, Dude

 

[DavDR]

Speaking as one of the people who grew up poor here in the great ol' USA, bullshit. While I was fortunate enough to have central heating, I had several friends who did not. Two different families I know only got their heat from a wood stove in the kitchen, and this was a mere 10 miles from a major metropolitan center.

I grew up in one of the poorest regions in the US, Eastern Kentucky, everyone had central heating.

 

[J.A.L.]

Quinn was selling drugs and girls long before Sage's problems with Chad. Lol, girls go to the men's room in the dining room all the time, could Sage have any questions? It's really shitty written. The second moment Sage voluntarily gave all the power to Quinn. Heather even wonders where their membership fees are spent. I
n fact, there are a lot of strange things with Sage.

She accepted Lily, who works as a stripper in Pink Rose and obviously can provide services of an intimate nature for money. Sage knew that there were a lot of sexual tasks in women's Hell Week, for example, blowjob, sex in public and so on. Well, that is, members of the sisterhood can fuck right and left with anyone, but they can't do it for money. This is different.

Quinn was selling drugs and girls AFTER Sage´s problems with Chad started, IMO. We know that Sage was already having problems with Chad two school years ago, when Tommy and Rusty were creating the DIKs. Probably they were starting dating those days. Quinn probably was whoring herself and selling drugs since high school, but the expansion of her business started last school year, when Riona joints the HOTs, according the conversation Quinn and Riona have during the first chapter. And it´s only this year, with the new girls and Mona´s renounce, that Quinn´s business has become into something that can actually draw attention. According Riona, "It was easier last year", so the previous school year they didn´t have any problem that could draw attention.

Lily is not doing something illegal working as stripper, and if she provides ilegal services of an intimate nature for money there, is Pink Rose´s owner problem, not Sage´s. Blowjobs or public sex during hell week or during parties is not an ilegal. Sage wouldn´t get in troubles for it. But Sage, as HOT´s president, indeed would have HUGE problems if Quinn´s drugs and prostitution rings comes to light (or better, when it will come to light), even if she was in the dark about it. So, again, why would she allow that kind of business into her sorority, even with her own father involved? She gain nothing with that, and risks everything.

Sage has been a pretty careless president of the HOTs, that´s all the mystery about her. Quinn is eager to take control, and Sage has given her that control because it´s the easy thing to do. It´s funny that her dissertation is about "macro and micro management". Her macro and micro management of the HOTs has been awful. But she´s going to pay for that, I´m afraid

 

[Tadpol]

We´ll see. It would go against all postmodern political correctness. I know that no screen writer for movies, TV Shows or AAA games in western countries would dare to create a plotline like that one. Otherwise it would be well seen.

You exaggerate.

Apart from the extremists, no one will be shocked by the MC who ends up with a solo route for Maya or Josy.

In addition, the MC is not a religious extremist (Maya's father at worst) who gets involved in a relationship between two girls with the sole aim of separating them.

 

[kyrlian]

Nope, there's really no reason for him to hurry things up. We just don't want to wait so long, but that's all there is to it.

I agree with you, but yes there is another thing: the tech.

Long development cycles tend to get outdated in the tech department. New models, new render techniques, new animations come up regularly. BaDIK Ch.1 was outstanding, best in class with no competition whatsoever, but right now there are games with the same (or even better) quality renders and animations, in a couple years the competition and new developments will be real hard for BaDIK.

DPC has improved the quality too but he is tied to the original models and the tools he uses and the room for improvement is limited, if he stretches the development for too many years the game will be somewhat obsolete, so he has a window of maybe two or three more years to finish the game and stay on top.

 

[mindern]

I agree with you, but yes there is another thing: the tech.

Long development cycles tend to get outdated in the tech department. New models, new render techniques, new animations come up regularly. BaDIK Ch.1 was outstanding, best in class with no competition whatsoever, but right now there are games with the same (or even better) quality renders and animations, in a couple years the competition and new developments will be real hard for BaDIK.

DPC has improved the quality too but he is tied to the original models and the tools he uses and the room for improvement is limited, if he stretches the development for too many years the game will be somewhat obsolete, so he has a window of maybe two or three more years to finish the game and stay on top.

Given how many of the highest rated games on here were knocked together in whatever that Illusion game is I don’t think he has to worry about render quality for a long long time.

Yeah, maybe the models will be marginally outdated but is anybody going to criticising the game because you can’t see capillaries under UV light? As long as there’s a consistent set of models from start to finish I can’t imagine it will be an issue.

 

[znar25]

Another day without knowing who i want, bella is just perfect but the age thing, jill is the sweetest girl, and sage is hot but sweet in this last episodes
Who would you choose?

Each path, by itself, is worthy, the reward is all the stars in the night sky.

And the debacle with Bella, don't give up, it has to be fixable somehow. She is worth it.

 

[J.A.L.]

Given how many of the highest rated games on here were knocked together in whatever that Illusion game is I don’t think he has to worry about render quality for a long long time.

Yeah, maybe the models will be marginally outdated but is anybody going to criticising the game because you can’t see capillaries under UV light? As long as there’s a consistent set of models from start to finish I can’t imagine it will be an issue.

How much money in Patreon are making those highest rated on here games using Illusion models, compared with BaDIK? One good think about BaDIK is that is showing game developers that there is a market for quality porn games with a complex story, good music, well developed characters, etc. Right now, BaDIK barely has competence, as far as I know. All games I know are pretty amateur compared with BaDIK. But probably in the future there will devs that will imitate DPC and will create profesional porn games. And DPC will have to do something to not being left behind.