VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[aragh]

Yea but most (not every) members who are saying something bad about Maya really have good points and are 100% true, for quick example - selfish.
Only because you don't agree with them, you don't need to jump to (almost) every post about her and say that they are wrong and there is only your truth.

Seeing "Maya is selfish" as a 100% truth is just highly subjective. Different people interprete her actions in a different way, so they don't see her als selfish. I agree that there are good points to see her as a selfish person, but that is also just subjective and there are also (in my opinion) good points to see her as a troubled and desperate young girl who is under immense pressure from her father.
It's completely fine to not accept this as an "excuse" for her (sometimes) egocentric behavior, but it's not a 100% truth to see it in this way.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Selfish is a strong word. Every person, real or fictional, is selfish to some degree. That is normal.

However, it is usually only applied to Maya and highlighted by her haters. All LI's and even the banner girl Quinn are selfish and in some cases even more obvious.

That is not objectivity. Nice word.

All Maya cares about is that fucking tuition, are you not bored of her saying this? I was tired of it in episode 1, but it continues, on and on and on and on again.

Even with Sage saying she might have something to help her with, she gets focused on something Becky says, and tries to ruin the party by making it about her and her tuition problem.

Boring Pinkcakes, it's boring, it's the reason I don't give you any money because you can't end this stupid, fucking boring, bland garbage storyline.

You ended the stupid Jill blackmail, well done mate, good job, Jill standing up for her self and becoming a woman was great to see, now please do the fucking same for Maya.

 

[Heycock]

Seeing "Maya is selfish" as a 100% truth is just highly subjective. Different people interprete her actions in a different way, so they don't see her als selfish. I agree that there are good points to see her as a selfish person, but that is also just subjective and there are also (in my opinion) good points to see her as a troubled and desperate young girl who is under immense pressure from her father.
It's completely fine to not accept this as an "excuse" for her (sometimes) egocentric behavior, but it's not a 100% truth to see it in this way.

To electrocute and kidnap a guy to have some fun after you leave him naked on the streets for more fun: not selfish
To blackmail someone with his stolen guitar to make him help with your obsesive toxic relationship: not selfish.
To be concerned about lossing your superior studies: selfish.

 

[xinkala]

Asked the same thing and guessing ya missed it.
Don't fight Tommy.

Josy takes matters into her own hands evntually View attachment 1562473

Damn just look at here!
Angry but still cute! And dats why she's my favorite

 

[TajaRrR]

Selfish is a strong word. Every person, real or fictional, is selfish to some degree. That is normal.

However, it is usually only applied to Maya and highlighted by her haters. All LI's and even the banner girl Quinn are selfish and in some cases even more obvious.

That is not objectivity. Nice word.

Yes it is strong but it fits her perfectly.
And it's usually applied to Maya because it's her actions that show this in her, sure Quinn is selfish but there is different in character development where one of them (Quinn) is selfish but she is not pretending to be a good girl with it, where on the other hand Maya is using it to gain something while trying to be perceived as good, innocent girl.

 

[xinkala]

Hmm soo we are arguing if Maya is selfish?

well here is my opinion.

Well we know that his father is an asshole. this tuition is kind of escape for her from her father. she need to finish college and get a degree or something to finally get away from him. if she fail, if she won't be able to finish college she have to return to her dickhead father and this is the last thing she want. Yea it's kind of annoying how she always talking and 'bitching' about that, but yea she has her reasons. And hell! All of us have some selfishness!

 

[godkingxerxes]

I agree with you that Maya is very interested in the tutoring and Becky in EP8 briefly throws Maya off balance because of it. The MC quickly got Maya back on track and she then had her fun. Your hyperbole about her trying to ruin the Drom party is again an example of you, to that statement of mine.

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-8-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-7205229

DPC will also solve Maya's problem, just like he solved Jill's blackmail. Whether the solutions meet your neural challenge is subjective. So it doesn't matter to me either.

Jill's blackmail lasted two episodes and had multiple funny scenes. And was solved in a very satisfying way with her coming out of turtle shell and snapping on Tybalt.

Maya's tuition has been the focus of her character and I fear the solution will not help her grow as a character.

 

[dalli_x]

Yes it is strong but it fits her perfectly.
And it's usually applied to Maya because it's her actions that show this in her, sure Quinn is selfish but there is different in character development where one of them (Quinn) is selfish but she is not pretending to be a good girl with it, where on the other hand Maya is using it to gain something while trying to be perceived as good, innocent girl.

In all seriousness. Is Maya selfish about tuition? Yes. But the reason why should perhaps not be ignored. In EP6, it becomes clear that her own father is holding Maya's financial future hostage because she is in love with Josy (Girl). If I put myself in Maya's shoes (empathy), I would act the same way and try to get out of this hostage situation. But I'm just wondering if selfishness is the right word for it. How about self-preservation instinct and/or survival instinct.

 

[clayjar]

Yes it is strong but it fits her perfectly.
And it's usually applied to Maya because it's her actions that show this in her, sure Quinn is selfish but there is different in character development where one of them (Quinn) is selfish but she is not pretending to be a good girl with it, where on the other hand Maya is using it to gain something while trying to be perceived as good, innocent girl.

I dont think Maya is 'pretending to be good'. Her priority is to escape her father and she will do what she has to for that. In other aspects she has better morals than Quinn for sure (who has none), so maybe you mistake that for pretending to be good.

 

[Canto Forte]

Was MC not the MMa fighting specialist trained to fight bullies by his father at the early age?

Asked the same thing and guessing ya missed it.
Don't fight Tommy.

Josy takes matters into her own hands evntually View attachment 1562473

Damn just look at here!
Angry but still cute! And dats why she's my favorite

Love Josy's character ......... and Specially after that!

Nothing and no one is perfect.
Everyone has flaws/problems/issues.
If ya cannot accept someone at their worst.
Ya don't deserve them at their best

All the girls are selfish .. it is always MC to help, MC to give into them, MC to lose to them.
They never do stuff out of friendship or care, just cold hearted superiority.
This game works well because MC can get some release wirh some other girl
once he helps this or that girl and she ghosts him right after.

 

[drooopy]

All Maya cares about is that fucking tuition, are you not bored of her saying this? I was tired of it in episode 1, but it continues, on and on and on and on again.

I agree with your point, but I'm not sure if maya's tuition "problem" is necessarily the main reason why she's annoying. Quinn has been having money problems since the beginning as well, yet she's cool nonetheless.

I think Maya's problem is that there's nothing like about her, it's that simple. I've no clue what's there to appreciate about her character.

For all it's worth maya is a great representation of an awkward college girl, I can't deny that.

 

[Canto Forte]

Maya has been lying to her father for years, countless years of fooling around.
She is a liar and a cheat, using boys to ghost her father.
What would you do to your brat who lied to you about being a lez years on end
but now resents you for not approving to something she never divulged?
It is clear her parents were not knowing and never giving a thought.
She likes to lie and cheat to get by. Tippycal hoe machinations
of entitlet brats scheming and defrauding their parents 4 money.

Hmm soo we are arguing if Maya is selfish?

well here is my opinion.

Well we know that his father is an asshole. this tuition is kind of escape for her from her father. she need to finish college and get a degree or something to finally get away from him. if she fail, if she won't be able to finish college she have to return to her dickhead father and this is the last thing she want. Yea it's kind of annoying how she always talking and 'bitching' about that, but yea she has her reasons. And hell! All of us have some selfishness!

Jill's blackmail lasted two episodes and had multiple funny scenes. And was solved in a very satisfying way with her coming out of turtle shell and snapping on Tybalt.

Maya's tuition has been the focus of her character and I fear the solution will not help her grow as a character.

In all seriousness. Is Maya selfish about tuition? Yes. But the reason why should perhaps not be ignored. In EP6, it becomes clear that her own father is holding Maya's financial future hostage because she is in love with Josy (Girl). If I put myself in Maya's shoes (empathy), I would act the same way and try to get out of this hostage situation. But I'm just wondering if selfishness is the right word for it. How about self-preservation instinct and/or survival instinct.

I dont think Maya is 'pretending to be good'. Her priority is to escape her father and she will do what she has to for that. In other aspects she has better morals than Quinn for sure (who has none), so maybe you mistake that for pretending to be good.

 

[Heycock]

And we reach the point were the homophobic guy who blackmail his own daughter with financially ruined her for being lesbian and choosing his own partner is a poor victim of a manipulative "hoe". Thanks god i am on the other side.

 

[TajaRrR]

In all seriousness. Is Maya selfish about tuition? Yes. But the reason why should perhaps not be ignored. In EP6, it becomes clear that her own father is holding Maya's financial future hostage because she is in love with Josy (Girl). If I put myself in Maya's shoes (empathy), I would act the same way and try to get out of this hostage situation. But I'm just wondering if selfishness is the right word for it. How about self-preservation instinct and/or survival instinct.

I agree her situation with her father is bad.
But my problem with her is what she herself is doing about it, she went to HOTs for only one reason and when she find out that the rumors are false (shocker) she hit Quinn and basically insulted whole sorority and was pissed (not for long but still) at Josy that she wants to stay there, like what? Just because Maya left, Josy doesn't have to.. That's selfish.

What if Sage won't be able to help her? She will be pissed at her to?
Or if she won't be able to help her because of mc previous action (with Jade for example) will she be pissed at MC to?

She expects help but she herself doesn't do anything to get out of the situation.

I dont think Maya is 'pretending to be good'. Her priority is to escape her father and she will do what she has to for that. In other aspects she has better morals than Quinn for sure (who has none), so maybe you mistake that for pretending to be good.

But she is. She is always the one that has hard live, no one cares, her father is blackmailing her (this one is true). But she can't see that what she is doing with her behavior through out the series is center her problems in life of everyone around her.
And Yea Quinn morals are not good i agree with that. But she's still Queen

 

[Canto Forte]

Gold digging hoes doing what little they know to get the gold .. shocker!

 

[Heycock]

So we passed from selfish, to pretend to be good, to helpless.

Thats the "solid point", it changes with every comment.

 

[xinkala]

Maya has been lying to her father for years, countless eyars of fooling around.
She is a liar and a cheat, using boys to ghost her father.
What would you do to your brat who lied to you about being a lez and
resents you now for .. not knowing and never giving a thought,
because she likes to lie and cheat to get by. Tippycal hoe machnations
of entitlet brats scheming and defrauding their parents 4 money.

okay and why she was lying to him? cuz she fucking asshole who doesn't care what she want?
trying to separate maye and josy cuz they are lesbians and not straight like religious saying?
oh yea that not a problem at all! she was lying because that was her only way?
using boys to ghost her father you say. hmm so what? he was controlling freak who was trying to control all aspect of her grown ass adult daughter? she knew that if his father would find out her relationship with josy it would be an end for her college time. using boys is way to avoid all this shit storm.
you say using parent for money right? soo like everyone!

 

[godkingxerxes]

I agree her situation with her father is bad.
But my problem with her is what she herself is doing about it, she went to HOTs for only one reason and when she find out that the rumors are false (shocker) she hit Quinn and basically insulted whole sorority and was pissed (not for long but still) at Josy that she wants to stay there, like what? Just because Maya left, Josy doesn't have to.. That's selfish.

What if Sage won't be able to help her? She will be pissed at her to?
Or if she won't be able to help her because of mc previous action (with Jade for example) will she be pissed at MC to?

She expects help but she herself doesn't do anything to get out of the situation.

Her putting on that HOT uniform at the end of the season, so insulting to the sorority that she shit all over since day 1.

I can see it now, Burke shows the video of MC fucking Jade, and her and Sage start fighting, Tybalt is screaming about hot MC ruined his life by getting with Jill.

And in the mist of all this real shit, real problems, Maya sitting the corner crying about her tuition. And why does nobody care about her problems.

 

[TajaRrR]

Her putting on that HOT uniform at the end of the season, so insulting to the sorority that she shit all over since day 1.

I can see it now, Burke shows the video of MC fucking Jade, and her and Sage start fighting, Tybalt is screaming about hot MC ruined his life by getting with Jill.

And in the mist of all this real shit, real problems, Maya sitting the corner crying about her tuition. And why does nobody care about her problems.

Exactly!
I can see it to, how she would only see herself and her own problems.
But we are wrong like always

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

DPC says he/she will be trying some different things for the interlude. I hope we get narration from Zoey.

I always loved narrators in hentai VN's, the first person narration in the X-Change games is great and really erotic:

"As both men pumped into me, a loud ringing erupted in my ears as waves of pleasure washed over me.

'Oh God, I'm cumming!'

Inside my uterus, a hot flow of semen."