Lostanddamned

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No reason for Quinn to have a redemption arc. She's shown to be a villain - DPC simply did a good job of humanizing her, but she's a villain nonetheless. There has to be a reason why Quinn is mutually exclusive with Maya & Josy. Similar to how Jade is exclusive to M&J, Sage and Jill are exclusive, etc.
Jamie Lannister was shown to be a villain and his redemption arc was brilliant.

Zuko was the biggest villain and most annoying cunt for a long period of time in Avatar: The Last Airbender, yet his transformation was amazingly pulled off.

It took Loki like 6 Marvel movies to be finally accepted as who he was and even though Marvel suck at writing redemption arcs, this one was very good.

If you haven't watched Chernobyl, I'll keep it short in case not to spoiler it. Boris Shcherbina started out as an ignorant, communist yes-man, but without his help, they weren't stopping the bigger consequences following the explosion. His redemption arc throughout the TV show is probably the in the top 5 best of all time.

I think it will be a matter of how good of a writer DPC is and if he can pull this one off properly. What he needs to realize is do it consistently. Not like do an entire character shift in one episode and have people weirded out by Quinn's character.
 
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felicemastronzo

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But wouldn't it be hinted in the story that Vinnie could take the role of villain on the drug side, and we could say that Burke would take over on the prostitution ring side? That would leave Quinn's redemption arc ready, solid and believable.
with the speed at which things evolve it's fourth season stuff....

Vinnie is a competitor for Quinn, but it's a long way from taking her out of the running now that he's brought Lily into the picture.

Similarly for the restaurant, if Burke falls everything falls, Sage falls and maybe the BR falls, or it falls into silence or it is an event from the end game
At best, Quinn was the central antagonist of Maya's arc for Ep1-6 but the main antagonist has always been Patrick. Maya wouldn't even have met Patrick and pursued the free tuition if it wasn't for him. While there'll be bad blood between Maya, Josy and Quinn in future episodes, Patrick remains the main threat.

Beyond that, Quinn has never been portrayed as a major opposition for the MC. She has a positive relationship with a DIK MC and barely interacted with a Chick/Neutral MC. As goofy and pathetic Tybalt, Dawe and the Alpha were portrayed, they still were a bigger and more frontal opposition. So far, Quinn brought trouble because she fucked up many times not because she's got a lot of resources and power.

Furthermore, the second season highlighted she's losing control and doesn't handle her business efficiently, to the point she's losing her allies ( Tommy, Riona...) and puts herself in a tenuous situation not only with her provider and her money issues but with Sage as well. There are bigger fish in every corner. Vinnie is a more competent dealer than her, Burke has wealth, position and influence ( things she doesn't really have ), even Lily while not a villain at this point, is shown to be more cunning than her.

Sure Patrick, Vinnie and Burke are all pretty secondary for now and their involvement remains kinda unclear but none of them have been portrayed as vulnerable or pathetic like Dawe, Tybalt or Chad. On the contrary, scenes like the cliffhanger with Patrick in Maya's room or Burke watching Jade's video with a sinister smirk tend to make them look like the real deal.

IMO, Quinn's position isn't really different than Tommy's. Both will probably keep making bad moves with negative consequences for others characters but Patrick, Vinnie & Burke will remain the big bad ensemble.

As for Riona, She's actually Patreon's favorite side girl ( the only one with three renders sets so far ). I doubt he'll have the balls for a deeply tragic ending after Acting lesson's backlash. Well who knows but it would be too predictable. :rolleyes:
I wasn't talking about antagonism with MC, but if at the beginning of the seventh chapter Quinn became all Broccoli, it would leave a big void in the story.

The drug ring is the basis of the clash with Vinnie, and in the same way the restaurant is Burke's weak point.

If Quinn leaves the dark side of the force, it is a cataclysmic event.

Tommy, if he gets hit by a truck tomorrow, Rusty will be the only one who pains him.
 

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Jamie Lannister was shown to be a villain and his redemption arc was brilliant.

Zuko was the biggest villain and most annoying cunt for a long period of time in Avatar: The Last Airbender, yet his transformation was amazingly pulled off.

It took Loki like 6 Marvel movies to be finally accepted as who he was and even though Marvel suck at writing redemption arcs, this one was very good.

If you haven't watched Chernobyl, I'll keep it short in case not to spoiler it. Boris Scherbina started out as an ignorant, communist yes-man, but without his help, they weren't stopping the bigger consequences following the explosion. His redemption arc throughout the TV show is probably the in the top 5 best of all time.

I think it will be a matter of how good of a writer DPC is and if he can pull this one off properly. What he needs to realize is do it consistently. Not like do an entire character shift in one episode and have people weirded out by Quinn's character.
I'm not sure I fully agree with some of your characterizations. Antagonists are not necessarily villains, and vice versa.

Quinn thusfar is shown to be an unrepentant villain - malicious intent, sinful, etc. DPC would need to show a new side to Quinn for her to get a shot at redemption. To do so would undo some of the plot bifurcations already in place, so I doubt DPC intends for this to occur.
 

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If you had an option to pick a girl for the contest, who would you have chosen? I know I would have chosen Camila 11 times out of 10. :devilish:
I don't know... I like them both it's a difficult question with Camila I would tell her "Mueve ese gran culo mami" But Riona must move those hips very well for the poor man cum so fast
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Eyewitness evidence. Several preps (according to Tybalt, who may be lying) were willing to assert that he was seen lighting a fire.
Those were Tybalt's words though. We never see Lucas mentioning that he wants to sue the MC, neither did Rich say such a thing. And at the dorm party Gordon and Sebastian revealed that they couldn't stand Tybalt, so I don't think they want to sue MC as well.

So in other words, it was bullshit.
 
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Those were Tybalt's words though. We never see Lucas mentioning that he wants to sue the MC, neither did Rich say such a thing. And at the dorm party Gordon and Sebastian revealed that they couldn't stand Tybalt, so I don't think they want to sue MC as well.

So in other words, it was bullshit.
We never see Lucas saying that Tybalt was lying either, so it isn't. For all we know they would just go on the stand and repeat what Tybalt told them they saw. You're entitlled to believe that they would not, but don't pretend that you have proof of it.
 
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