VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Discontented]

Just started playing this game, liking it so far.

Kinda like Derek in a fun to watch kinda way. He strikes me as the kind of guy that would show up to his buddy's wedding bombed out of his mind with a tuxedo painted on his chest

Edit: This guy is my fucking spirit animal. The guy is like chaos incarnate.

 

[varage]

If i remember correctly, Maya confess to MC that she tell to guys she have a boyfriend so they leave her alone and not that she is single. Of course, she keeps to herself that she is in a relationship and this is something that upset MC: Maya keeping things from him, but this can be considered the same as lie?. He can literally said this to Jade in ep 4 when she go talk to MC after MC/Maya discussion in gender class. We can choose make MC talk to Jade why he is mad to Maya and he says: "she keep secrets from me"

Yes but that's Samantics as well as josy's was When she said i don't have a boyfriend and only lie about it so no one tries to get me what would anyone hear? I'm single and not really looking. Not i am in a relationship with a girl. He also tells Derek that him and maya are single so why shouldn't they kiss. Maya KNOWS he thinks she's single. Josy at least never left him guessing on her relationship status. So yes, Maya's is concidered a lie. Especially if you as MC choose to say to late. After she confesses she doesn't have a boyfriend because thats the mc saying he's interested meaning she should lay down the law if she needs to.

So yes what maya did was a lie. What Josy did was an immition of truth at best. But Maya straight up lie'd to save face. Had she kept the boyfriend lie afloat she'd be in the same boat as Josy but she decided it best to let MC know she was available.
Not to mention the jealousy kiss when you tell Maya you're going on a date with josy and she slams you into a wall and mouth rapes him. If that doesn't mean she's interested i dunno what does.

I will give it to Maya in a weird way she's more accepting of MC then Josy because if you're on cusp of Dik when you ask them both out and get turned neutral it's revealed that it's Josy that turns you down not Maya. Showing that she might be a little more interested in you then Josy is.
Essentially the whisper conversation went a little like this. Maya "I think we should." Josy "I can't risk losing you Maya." ;-;
He also asks if she has a boyfriend, and she says no something like. So you don't have a boyfriend and she says, no she doesn't. He says something like "So i shouldn't catch feelings for you?" Maya "That would be for the best." MC I believe this is a choice but you can say. "Too late." "But I promise I'll be respectful."

 

[Heycock]

Yes but that's Samantics as well as josy's was When she said i don't have a boyfriend and only lie about it so no one tries to get me what would anyone hear? I'm single and not really looking. Not i am in a relationship with a girl. He also tells Derek that him and maya are single so why shouldn't they kiss. Maya KNOWS he thinks she's single. Josy at least never left him guessing on her relationship status. So yes, Maya's is concidered a lie. Especially if you as MC choose to say to late. After she confesses she doesn't have a boyfriend because thats the mc saying he's interested meaning she should lay down the law if she needs to.

So yes what maya did was a lie. What Josy did was an immition of truth at best. But Maya straight up lie'd to save face. Had she kept the boyfriend lie afloat she'd be in the same boat as Josy but she decided it best to let MC know she was available.
Not to mention the jealousy kiss when you tell Maya you're going on a date with josy and she slams you into a wall and mouth rapes him. If that doesn't mean she's interested i dunno what does.

I will give it to Maya in a weird way she's more accepting of MC then Josy because if you're on cusp of dik when you ask them both out and get turned out it's revealed that it's Josy that turns you down not Maya. Showing that she might be a little more interested in you then Josy is.
Issentially the whisper conversation went a little like this. Maya "i think we should." Josy "I can't risk losing you Maya." ;-;

So here is the thing. The MC dates Maya and Josy. Maya dates Josy and the MC. Josy dates MC and Maya.
As the own MC claims: "We re all a bunch of cheaters" (quoting from memory but it was kinda like that).

So, how anyone has any reason to be angry to each other without being hipocrite?.
You said: well Maya lied. Ok, but the reason she lied was to get the same deal everyone else. So, to lie to be on equal terms as the rest, is such a big deal?. After all her motives were the same as the others.

Now, either the MC accepted that she have a boyfriend and didn't care and didn't stoped him, like it happened with Josy, or he was an hipocrite. Because he was doing the same. So since he didn't care about cheating, why he was so angry for a lie about something he didn't care on the first place. A lie means something when the thing you hide means something. If not isas pointless as it is meaningless.

Besides, girls don't like when you date other girls besides them. The fact that both off them took it with incredible tolerance has only one reason: it's a porn game. In real life if one girl find you with another, you lost one girl, probably two. In porn you get a threesome.

That's why the MC doesn't have to lie. You can tell Maya: "Hey Maya, I am going to fuck a girl in my town in doggystyle, wait for me with the dinner ready"... and it will work. Maya is doing what real people do to cheat, the MC is doing what porn characters do to cheat. But they are all cheaters, as the MC sayd.

 

[varage]

So here is the thing. The MC dates Maya and Josy. Maya dates Josy and the MC. Josy dates MC and Maya.
As the own MC claims: "We re all a bunch of cheaters" (quoting from memory but it was kinda like that).

So, how anyone has any reason to be angry to each other without being hipocrite?.
You said: well Maya lied. Ok, but the reason she lied was to get the same deal everyone else. So, to lie to be on equal terms as the rest, is such a big deal?. After all her motives were the same as the others.

Now, either the MC accepted that she have a boyfriend and didn't care and didn't stoped him, like it happened with Josy, or he was an hipocrite. Because he was doing the same. So since he didn't care about cheating, why he was so angry for a lie about something he didn't care on the first place. A lie means something when the thing you hide means something. If not isas pointless as it is meaningless.

Besides, girls don't like when you date other girls besides them. The fact that both off them took it with incredible tolerance has only one reason: it's a porn game. In real life if one girl find you with another, you lost one girl, probably two. In porn you get a threesome.

That's why the MC doesn't have to lie. You can tell Maya: "Hey Maya, I am going to fuck a girl in my town in doggystyle, wait for me with the dinner ready"... and it will work. Maya is doing what real people do to cheat, the MC is doing what porn characters do to cheat. But they are all cheaters, as the MC sayd.

They are but Maya isn't a cheater as much as a Liar because she says Wanna know a secret? "I don't have a boyfriend." "I just tell people that because it makes them lose interest it's the only thing that seems to work"

They are indeed all cheaters but the worse one is of course Maya in this scenario. Because she's a cheater and a liar.
That's my only point to be taken away not to mention MC didn't cheat on Maya. Or they werent in a relationship. Nore was he in a relationship with Josy at the time. He did cheat with Josy but he knew he did. He didn't know he was cheating when he was with Maya.
Thats my only point on maya being worse. Probably worse on him then him and Josy. With Jose he knew what he was doing with Maya he didn't.

 

[ThaRealThiccShady]

Thinking about the aftermath of Maya finding out that the free tuition thing was a lie today(Whether or not it actually is Quinn never intended to give it to her) and realizing again that Josy’s kind of shitty in her response.

Maya is justifiably very upset about Quinn essentially forcing her to do sexual acts, forcefully make out with her, kidnap MC, attempt to force her to make out with another DIK at the party, and god knows what else we don’t see in game and Josy’s just sitting there like: “Omg they’re so great and everyone is so nice I’m so happy to be a HOT!” And when Maya isn’t over the moon about Josy’s attitude/decision Josy gets all high and mighty and berates Maya for not being excited enough for her after she decided to stay with the people that took advantage of her for weeks on end and might’ve gotten her kicked out of college down the line and sent back to her oppressive father who not a day ago let himself into her dorm which she had no choice but to stay in. Neither are perfect in that moment but Josy tried to make all the focus be on how she felt without even giving Maya time to adjust. Just felt shitty of her
Thoughts?

 

[Killerwhale5678]

Besides, girls don't like when you date other girls besides them. The fact that both off them took it with incredible tolerance has only one reason: it's a porn game. In real life if one girl find you with another, you lost one girl, probably two. In porn you get a threesome.

Every Li tolerates the MC's actions untill episode 8 which where you had to make a decision on who to chose.which makes BADIK more realistic than any porn game out there.

 

[Heycock]

They are but Maya isn't a cheater as much as a Liar because she says Wanna know a secret? "I don't have a boyfriend." "I just tell people that because it makes them lose interest it's the only thing that seems to work"

They are indeed all cheaters but the worse one is of course Maya in this scenario. Because she's a cheater and a liar.
That's my only point to be taken away not to mention MC didn't cheat on Maya. Or they werent in a relationship. Nore was he in a relationship with Josy at the time. He did cheat with Josy but he knew he did. He didn't know he was cheating when he was with Maya.
Thats my only point on maya being worse. Probably worse on him then him and Josy. With Jose he knew what he was doing with Maya he didn't.

Ok, but you didn't answer any of my points:

Maya lied to be on equal terms, not to take advantage.

The MC didn't really care about what was being lie, so the lie is not significant.

MC doesn't need to lie couse it's a porn game so his behaviour is going to be accepted. Maya is simple more tolerant with the MC flaws than the MC.

And there is another point. You actually have the option to lie. We are simple considering the worst posible path for Maya but it could be way worst. The MC liying and having sex with not two but many girls.

I find the worst cheater here is the MC. Maya could have lie but the MC is an hypocrite, he could fuck all what he wants but as soon as someone fuck behind his back he get angry.

 

[varage]

Thinking about the aftermath of Maya finding out that the free tuition thing was a lie today(Whether or not it actually is Quinn never intended to give it to her) and realizing again that Josy’s kind of shitty in her response.

Maya is justifiably very upset about Quinn essentially forcing her to do sexual acts, forcefully make out with her, kidnap MC, attempt to force her to make out with another DIK at the party, and god knows what else we don’t see in game and Josy’s just sitting there like: “Omg they’re so great and everyone is so nice I’m so happy to be a HOT!” And when Maya isn’t over the moon about Josy’s attitude/decision Josy gets all high and mighty and berates Maya for not being excited enough for her after she decided to stay with the people that took advantage of her for weeks on end and might’ve gotten her kicked out of college down the line and sent back to her oppressive father who not a day ago let himself into her dorm which she had no choice but to stay in. Neither are perfect in that moment but Josy tried to make all the focus be on how she felt without even giving Maya time to adjust. Just felt shitty of her
Thoughts?

I know exactly what you mean but he knew Quinn was a bitch but tbh Quinn is the only bitch amongst the hots. Not to mention you never know what was on the other hots scavenger hunts some seem to be slightly sexual in nature even if not directly like Maya's. Used male underwear from MC for Camilla. Making out with someone from Lilly.

Not to mention Josy is a party girl by nature. And all she wanted was a right to choose her lot in college you know something that Maya is not allowed to do. So, Maya being like that is in fact understandable, but she is essentially her dad 2.0 in that moment trying to forbid Josy from being a HOT.

 

[Heycock]

you are wrong! its only cheating if you lie about it!

Why Warscared, because you say so?

It's only cheating when there is a rule, and there is a rule when there is mutual agreement of sexual exclusivity. Everything else about lie you took it directly out of your ass.

Maya and Josy had that agreement, the MC don't. So he is the last guy who has a claim here, technically noone cheat on him.

 

[varage]

Ok, but you didn't answer any of my points:

Maya lied to be on equal terms, not to take advantage.

The MC didn't really care about what was being lie, so the lie is not significant.

MC doesn't need to lie couse it's a porn game so his behaviour is going to be accepted. Maya is simple more tolerant with the MC flaws than the MC.

And there is another point. You actually have the option to lie. We are simple considering the worst posible path for Maya but it could be way worst. The MC liying and having sex with not two but many girls.

I find the worst cheater here is the MC. Maya could have lie but the MC is an hypocrite, he could fuck all what he wants but as soon as someone fuck behind his back he get angry.

1. She still caught feelings along with the MC it wasn't just the MC intiating interactions between the two.
2. The MC did care about Maya lieing after she forced him to be 100% honest which he does by telling her he's going on a date when he goes home.
3.Yes it's a porn game but in your same logic Maya doesn't need to lie because you're still fucking maya either way even if she was currently on another guys cock you taking another hole thats porn logic. But because it's story based she did lie. And in that scenario even in the real world. MC has no reason to lie to Maya as they are not even close to being in a relationship atm.
4.Yes you can lie if you want but it's up to you to decide. And im also not painting the MC as the almighty righty.
I'm, painting him as why he felt that way and why i think Maya was a greater cause then Josy.
Because she forces him to be crudually honest with her from day one but isn't ready to do the same which Maya admits later on she should have.

I'm not calling Maya the devil I love her and all other LI in this game except maybe Jill I don't hate Jill but I don't really like her.
I was simply answering the question given as to why the MC freaked out.

 

[ThaRealThiccShady]

I know exactly what you mean but he knew Quinn was a bitch but tbh Quinn is the only bitch amongst the hots. Not to mention you never know what was on the other hots scavenger hunts some seem to be slightly sexual in nature even if not directly like Maya's. Used male underwear from MC for Camilla. Making out with someone from Lilly.

Not to mention Josy is a party girl by nature. And all she wanted was a right to choose her lot in college you know something that Maya is not allowed to do. So, Maya being like that is in fact understandable, but she is essentially her dad 2.0 in that moment trying to forbid Josy from being a HOT.

Interesting points but I think Maya wasn’t trying to prevent Josy from being a HOT she just wasn’t thrilled by it and was especially not thrilled by Josy repeatedly rubbing her face in it the day after. Even then she didn’t get that upset at Josy it was more of a: “Really? You’re saying all this to me, right now? And you’re shocked I’m not happy about it?”

Totally off topic but anyone know what the content of the most recent update on Patreon was? I know we’re not getting anything anytime soon but it helps the wait to stay in the loop

 

[namelessone22]

Josy is gonna cuck you? LOL to be fair you cucked her first. The look on her face when she was outed to you as Maya's girlfriend and when you outed yourself to Maya as Josy's boyfriend were equally hilarious. The resulting endless triangle of cuck is one of the best storylines in the game. Josy put all of her points into charm and treated honesty as a dump stat, but we love her anyway. I don't think anybody will hold it against her if she snakes Jill too. She will have to get past Bella, though. She has dibs.

I know I'm gonna sound like an idiot
but for ages I thought Bella was supposed to be Jill's Mother, and they just didn't want to have their (family) relationship known at school (typical 'kid doesn't want school kids to know their mom's a teacher at the school').
For this I blame the photo which at the time I thought was Jill on Bella's shoulders.

From a couple of posts I've read here & there, I assume this is wrong (hence the idiot part)
Would someone mind telling what the truth actually is & where I find it in the game (I've either skipped it or haven't gotten that far)

Please put answer in spoiler tag for those that don't want to know.
Thx

 

[varage]

you are wrong! its only cheating if you lie about it!

They are all in the wrong for cheating but i think the lieing is what hurt mc the most.
Thats why when asked he says im tired of the lies not to mention the entire time he's with Josy knowing someone else is out there she's supposed to be with tares him up inside. So much so that you as the player get the choice as to how far you can take it. Even if you don't sleep with Josy, he's still upset about cheating by going to dinner with her kissing her etc.

Maya denied him that bit of self-reflection. Unlike Josy. Thats why he says he's tired of liars not cheaters.

 

[sixart]

Why Warscared, because you say so?

Pretty much... Oh snap ! I snatched another potential reply...

Think you all take this too seriously... yeah might be technically it is a lie but let's not be hypocrates here all the characters lie about something(s) pretty much as do flesh and blood real life persons Besides... cheating would only be on the table if they would have been in a relationship ( any of the trio ) but since they were not how the fuck did this popped up in the first place ? What they ended up in is a no strings attached situation between the three of them so again... lie ( it depends on your MC... if you fuck around like a real dick then you constantly lie ) and cheat ???

 

[varage]

He's also the one that outs Josy to Maya. You remember all that self reflection the we're back together moments between Maya and Josy they were living a lie neither of them were honest with each other about what they did with the MC and just focused on the we're finally back together it took MC to stop the lie's during the party.
If they really cared about each other when MC took out his phone and showed the picture of his Girl he went on a date with Maya wouldn't have been surprised she woulda said i know JOSY TOLD ME. And Maya would have told Josy what happened between MC and her in return. That's why mc said "Why are they sitting together just yesterday they were ready to break up." It's because Maya and Josy rekindled their relationship on lie's or as people like saying Omissions of truth.

 

[Heycock]

1. She still caught feelings along with the MC it wasn't just the MC intiating interactions between the two.
2. The MC did care about Maya lieing after she forced him to be 100% honest which he does by telling her he's going on a date when he goes home.
3.Yes it's a porn game but in your same logic Maya doesn't need to lie because you're still fucking maya either way even if she was currently on another guys cock you taking another hole thats porn logic. But because it's story based she did lie. And in that scenario even in the real world. MC has no reason to lie to Maya as they are not even close to being in a relationship atm.
4.Yes you can lie if you want but it's up to you to decide. And im also not painting the MC as the almighty righty.
I'm, painting him as why he felt that way and why i think Maya was a greater cause then Josy.
Because she forces him to be crudually honest with her from day one but isn't ready to do the same which Maya admits later on she should have.

I'm not calling Maya the devil I love her and all other LI in this game except maybe Jill I don't hate Jill but I don't really like her.
I was simply answering the question given as to why the MC freaked out.

I know you are not a Maya hater. I just thing you are wrong. Well technically you are wright, the story is meant to be read that way, it's just it doesnt have sense for me. I think the MC is being hypocrite and egocentric.

1)I didn't understand well this one, maybe if you explain it different i can understand it. If not, if it is what i think, both Maya and Josy had feelings for the MC, he didn't care about that.

2) Yeah, i know, but that's a suddenly change of mood. He didn't care about Josy having a boyfriend when he was fucking her in her parents bed. We can asume he wouldn't care if Maya has told him that she has a boyfriend. But suddenly in ep4 he make a big thing out of it.

3) What i meant is that the MC actually say to a lot of girls he is having sex with other girls and noone care. It's only a thing when the girls has sex with others. That's why he can. It's player psicology, don't forget that a lot of people send Josy under the bus as well.

4) Yeah it's up to you i know. What i try to say is that we are choosing the worst posible outcome to judge Maya and considere it canonical. We have no reason to do so. We could choose a better outcome an considerer equally canonical. It's unfair to Maya.

Anyway, it doesnt matter really.

there is no exclusivity clause for the MC, the fact that the Maya and Josy exclusivity clause for each other makes an exception for the MC does not mean the MC must stick by it!

as long as he does not lie he is not cheating

And there is no exclusivity for Maya as well. The lie part you made it completely out of your ass and it's completely absurd.

 

[namelessone22]

Sniffing a huge dose of Copium i see.

Who the Fuck is KRJ?

 

[Heycock]

Pretty much... Oh snap ! I snatched another potential reply...

Think you all take this too seriously... yeah might be technically it is a lie but let's not be hypocrates here all the characters lie about something(s) pretty much as do flesh and blood real life persons Besides... cheating would only be on the table if they would have been in a relationship ( any of the trio ) but since they were not how the fuck did this popped up in the first place ? What they ended up in is a no strings attached situation between the three of them so again... lie ( it depends on your MC... if you fuck around like a real dick then you constantly lie ) and cheat ???
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It's a classic:

If its just a blowjob is not cheating.

If it's anal sex is not cheating.

If he is more than 2000 miles away is not cheating.

If you are thinking in baby Jesus is not cheating.

 

[namelessone22]

I can't find the Patreon render of DPC anymore. But she was hot, I mean really hot.

Assuming this isn't a joke, anyone have the actual pic mentioned (if it's a joke, disregard, obviously )

 

[varage]

I know you are not a Maya hater. I just thing you are wrong. Well technically you are wright, the story is meant to be read that way, it's just it doesnt have sense for me. I think the MC is being hypocrite and egocentric.

1)I didn't understand well this one, maybe if you explain it different i can understand it. If not, if it is what i think, both Maya and Josy had feelings for the MC, he didn't care about that.

2) Yeah, i know, but that's a suddenly change of mood. He didn't care about Josy having a boyfriend when he was fucking her in her parents bed. We can asume he wouldn't care if Maya has told him that she has a boyfriend. But suddenly in ep4 he make a big thing out of it.

3) What i meant is that the MC actually say to a lot of girls he is having sex with other girls and noone care. It's only a thing when the girls has sex with others. That's why he can. It's player psicology, don't forget that a lot of people send Josy under the bus as well.

4) Yeah it's up to you i know. What i try to say is that we are choosing the worst posible outcome to judge Maya and considere it canonical. We have no reason to do so. We could choose a better outcome an considerer equally canonical. It's unfair to Maya.

Anyway, it doesnt matter really.




And there is no exclusivity for Maya as well. The lie part you made it completely out of your ass and it's completely absurd.

I'll answer 1 and 4. You're right and so am i. But he did care about the cheating such as the self reflection he was denied i mentioned but he was also wrong that's why the first choice of season 4 was. Do you think you over reacted? I have yet to click no on that question because he did in fact over react through shock and surprize. He chose the worse possible way out of the situation which was running away in the immortal words of derek.
"I woulda tried to turn it into a threesome. If it wasn't my sister of course."