felicemastronzo

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Well, he can get that when his real grandfather dies too from an inheritance. There's no need to let poor Rusty's family die too!
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
but the problem for the inheritance is not Rusty, it's the fact that Lynette was in fact disinherited

the first check that came to Mc didn't shock him one bit, much less a car with air conditioning....
 

vogelbeest

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Nah, his grandfather is perfectly capable of writing a will that excludes the MC entirely. Indeed, he's probably already done so.
but the problem for the inheritance is not Rusty, it's the fact that Lynette was in fact disinherited
Yeah, i agree but lets face it, if there is gonna be any big inheritance it's still more likely to come from his own grandfather then from a Burgmeister.
There's hints we get to meet people who are related to MC's mother's friends, so next step is meeting them and learning who is the grandfather.... We might eventually even meet him, he will get to know MC and he regrets his decisions, tadaaa!
Even if far fetched it's still more sensible then hoping to be related to a Burgmeister when there's absolutely zero storyline pointing in that direction.
And hell, for the fun of theories ; MC might even meet Gramps in the home for the elderly where the old sod decides to put MC in his will as sole heir, just to keep his lousy not worthy grandson he never seen from getting anything.... not knowing he is actually giving it to exactly that guy. ;)
 
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This is just speculation, but the whole cocaine deal feels as a personal thing for Quinn. With the flashback and how she reacts to the substance, it's seems very likely her father died (or something related) due to cocaine. That's why Quinn is so weary and pensive about it. The bad thing that may happen is that Quinn's business will likely fall, and then she will try it as a form of escapism. And it will be up for the MC and her friends to help her out of it before it's too late. And maybe through that, expose the whole corrupted system at B&R.
 

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Quinn has not yet completely crossed the line after which she can be considered a real bad person. She's definitely an antihero, she has questionable motives and actions, but she hasn't killed anyone yet. Yes, she behaves like a bitch with others, but that's not a crime.
No. Quinn might be many things, but she is in no way an antihero. A character like that is often one working for good by doing 'bad' things. Batman and Blade actually fit the descriptor well, with the harm they do to 'clean up' the world.

Quinn is not on any angle of 'good' here. She is a madame to prostitutes, some of which she has certainly manipulated into the life to enrich herself. She is a drug dealer. She is, zero question, a villain in this story. It doesn't matter that she might fall for the MC. Kingpin fell in love, too. He's still a major fucking villain. It doesn't matter that Quinn hasn't killed somebody, murder is not the line in the sand for whether or not somebody is a bad person.

Even if she were to wind up on a court stand as witness against those she's involved with, that would not be out of goodness. She would 100% be doing it to lessen the consequences against herself. There's no 'hero' of any sort with Quinn, it's just layers of crime.

And a cute butt.
 

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No. Quinn might be many things, but she is in no way an antihero. A character like that is often one working for good by doing 'bad' things. Batman and Blade actually fit the descriptor well, with the harm they do to 'clean up' the world.

Quinn is not on any angle of 'good' here. She is a madame to prostitutes, some of which she has certainly manipulated into the life to enrich herself. She is a drug dealer. She is, zero question, a villain in this story. It doesn't matter that she might fall for the MC. Kingpin fell in love, too. He's still a major fucking villain. It doesn't matter that Quinn hasn't killed somebody, murder is not the line in the sand for whether or not somebody is a bad person.

Even if she were to wind up on a court stand as witness against those she's involved with, that would not be out of goodness. She would 100% be doing it to lessen the consequences against herself. There's no 'hero' of any sort with Quinn, it's just layers of crime.

And a cute butt.
Yep, and even bad people have feelings and do good things for the people they actually care about, so DPC can easily write relatable scenes and make fools fall for her left and right because he's a troll and loves this kind of shit :LOL:.
She will be a very tragic character for sure.
 

godkingxerxes

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I think we seriously need to consider the possibility Quinn at one point will atleast consider suicide...
The cocaine is still in her room...
We've seen a medical syringe, not the one-time throw away type...
We have reasons to assume her father might be dead...
We have reasons to assume he might have died of a cocaine overdose...
I think DPC just gave us a series of hints, spread over the story so far.
It's either that or atleast something like an overdose for someone...
The cocaine being kept is to specific to end just there...
Cocaine is for the Halloween party.

Lily will buy it off her for the Lily/Envy threesome.
 
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felicemastronzo

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No. Quinn might be many things, but she is in no way an antihero. A character like that is often one working for good by doing 'bad' things. Batman and Blade actually fit the descriptor well, with the harm they do to 'clean up' the world.

Quinn is not on any angle of 'good' here. She is a madame to prostitutes, some of which she has certainly manipulated into the life to enrich herself. She is a drug dealer. She is, zero question, a villain in this story. It doesn't matter that she might fall for the MC. Kingpin fell in love, too. He's still a major fucking villain. It doesn't matter that Quinn hasn't killed somebody, murder is not the line in the sand for whether or not somebody is a bad person.

Even if she were to wind up on a court stand as witness against those she's involved with, that would not be out of goodness. She would 100% be doing it to lessen the consequences against herself. There's no 'hero' of any sort with Quinn, it's just layers of crime.

And a cute butt.
99% is as you say.

but we can't say for sure, because her motivations are completely unknown. she doesn't seem to have set up all these circles to make the good life, on the contrary overall she seems to make a pretty miserable life (continuous work, no friends and no relationship...)

and the motivations make a big difference in the judgment of a character

consider that all this money is used to cure her father or to pay his ransom (completely random hypothesis..), wouldn't it give a completely different reading of the character?

Quinn doesn't sell drugs in front of schools to children, but she gets "young adults" who want to get high, she makes prostitutes out of girls who would do almost the same thing on their own... there are very few innocent people who have been misled.


more than the anti-hero, however, in my opinion, the most appropriate comparison is Wile E. Coyote, who is narratively the villain of the story, but because he always fails, he is forgiven and becomes the protagonist.
 

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Quinn has not yet completely crossed the line after which she can be considered a real bad person. She's definitely an antihero, she has questionable motives and actions, but she hasn't killed anyone yet. Yes, she behaves like a bitch with others, but that's not a crime.
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Quinn is no anti hero. Anti heroes are flawed people working for good the best they can. They are often reluctantly drawn in to the conflict. Quinn is the center of the conflict. She is either a villain, or a rarely seen anti villain, somewhere who works for good, but is clearly villainous or just not quite redeemable. Loki from MCU is probably a good example (post avengers). Hes' working for the good guys, hes doing good things, but hes never actually a good guy.
 
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dolfe67

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Quinn doesn't sell drugs in front of schools to children, but she gets "young adults" who want to get high, she makes prostitutes out of girls who would do almost the same thing on their own... there are very few innocent people who have been misled.
Yeah try that defense on your trial, the judge will appreciate. Don't find her excuses, you can like her but she's a deliquent
 
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Ottoeight

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MC's knows his mother's name
Sorry, but he doesn't know. Everything tells that he never asked, he never met family and his dad never talked about family or old friends.

Damn, everybody in this game deals with family or relatives except MC. MC deals with no one except dad. And Dad never mentions anybody.

Even Zoey - who jumps in the wagon out of the blue after more than 3 fucking years of development - has family: we saw her mom, stepdad, grandma, and she mentions a cousin (or aunt).

MC? no one. His dad? no one.


Don't ask why: suspension of disbelief is the magic word.
 

vogelbeest

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consider that all this money is used to cure her father or to pay his ransom (completely random hypothesis..), wouldn't it give a completely different reading of the character?
If any money she makes is for anything else then drugs, it's most likely for her mother, she is still being taken care of by Buddy.
But you're not gonna transform her into a Robin Hood either way, she's a survivor, she's doing what she's seen growing up.
The most you can get out of it is accepting she had bad role models, but that's no reason to make the same choices, it may be more understandable but she hasn't told Sage, so she knows it's wrong.... Quinn fans better hope for the redemption path. ;)
 

vogelbeest

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Sorry, but he doesn't know. Everything tells that he never asked, he never met family and his dad never talked about family or old friends.
So you're telling me he never seen his own birth certificate or his own passport? You either are in a passport of your parents until you're 18, or you need a birth certificate (both parents on it) to get the passport when you turn 18.
Sorry, but that's just highly unlikely, a child can be born without any known father, but that would mean in any case his mother's name is on the birth certificate.... So the mother's name is known eitherway, he might even have it since his parents weren't married. The game just doesn't tell us.
 

felicemastronzo

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If any money she makes is for anything else then drugs, it's most likely for her mother, she is still being taken care of by Buddy.
But you're not gonna transform her into a Robin Hood either way, she's a survivor, she's doing what she's seen growing up.
The most you can get out of it is accepting she had bad role models, but that's no reason to make the same choices, it may be more understandable but she hasn't told Sage, so she knows it's wrong.... Quinn fans better hope for the redemption path. ;)
I believe little in redemption

the evil done always remains, but an understandable motivation shifts a lot the perception of the character.

Simplifying very much: if one does evil to earn money is an asshole, if he does it because he likes it is a sadist, if one does it because he has not found another way to solve his problems is a fool

all 3 of these types of villains can then repent, but they start from very different positions
 

felicemastronzo

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So you're telling me he never seen his own birth certificate or his own passport? You either are in a passport of your parents until you're 18, or you need a birth certificate (both parents on it) to get the passport when you turn 18.
Sorry, but that's just highly unlikely, a child can be born without any known father, but that would mean in any case his mother's name is on the birth certificate.... So the mother's name is known eitherway, he might even have it since his parents weren't married. The game just doesn't tell us.
the psychosis about surnames is so high that I still wonder why DPC wanted us to know Maya's surname so suddenly and out of context...

(making sure that it happens whether we are in her route or not)
 

goldenrule91

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If any money she makes is for anything else then drugs, it's most likely for her mother, she is still being taken care of by Buddy.
But you're not gonna transform her into a Robin Hood either way, she's a survivor, she's doing what she's seen growing up.
The most you can get out of it is accepting she had bad role models, but that's no reason to make the same choices, it may be more understandable but she hasn't told Sage, so she knows it's wrong.... Quinn fans better hope for the redemption path. ;)
No redemption path, more of Quinn being an evil hot bitch please and ty :Kappa:

Doubt the money is for her mom though, she glances at her on the way into Buddy's and doesn't even try to engage with her. It seems like her mom is a lost cause with her wandering around strung out, and Quinn probably knows that from growing up with her. The only clue we have of Quinn's motives is that she's apparently a daddy's girl, which we hear from Buddy and sort of see in a flashback (her dad defends her from Buddy while her mom is passed out), so best guess for my money is that she's probably gathering the cash for him.

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So if Quinn was doing everything to scrape together enough cash to help her dad somehow, maybe even at his request, then it makes her more sympathetic at least. What I've never been able to figure out though is how money could possibly help her dad out. Is it to pay for her dad's hospital treatment or bail or some kind of ransom like felicemastronzo suggests? Judging by Quinn's emotional expression, I'd say her dad has been taken from her in some way and she's very close to getting him back, so maybe he's in hiding from someone and she's paying his debt by proxy? Does Burke enter into the picture somehow, did he promise to pull some strings politically if Quinn fronts him the cash and runs the restaurant? Burke could be peripheral to Quinn's story, or she could be heavily involved with him, or he could be unaware of Quinn's dad and her true motives at all. There just isn't enough information to make a good guess.

That's why it's not very fair when Quinn says during the rain scene that the MC is slow at figuring things out, like bitch we only started paying attention to you 10 minutes ago and my blood is rushing to my penis, give me a break :KEK:
 

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I'm really scared about how season 3 will progress the game. We start off on a single path (on of the LIs) and as time goes by DPC will have to make more branches that are different. That means the content on every update will be scattered and not much play time on a single path. I really hope I'm wrong and that we won't have to replay all the paths to get the content.
 
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