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After replaying Interlude, I discovered why the MC didn't know if it was love between him and Zoey or not. Why the MC has not yet told his LI, egeal which one, that he loves her.

Zoey's notebook says that the MC told Zoey the three words during sex. Zoey was surprised and almost fell off the MC laughing. So it is written in Zoey's notebook.

Later, shortly before their sex Zoey wants the MC to make dirty talk.

Zoey: "I know you are, baby. How about if you talk dirty to me instead?"
MC: "Um..."
Zoey: "What's wrong?"
MC: "Nothing."
Zoey: "It's not about last time is it?"
MC: "You laughed at me; that leaves scars."
Zoey: "I didn't Iaugh at you. It just took me by surprise."

The MC has been emotionally scarred by this and rightly wonders whether or not it was love between Zoey and the MC. For the MC, it was love.

This changed my view of Zoey, even though she doesn't like to talk about feelings, her reaction to the three words was inappropriate, especially because she knows the MC and knows he is a softie. But karma catches up with Zoey. She realizes that she loves the MC too, but the chance is gone. Zoey will end up like Emma. Zoey realized herself that she and Emma have things in common. Ergo, Zoey could become a disruptive factor for the LI's because Emma also can't see Bret dating other girls.

This will be exciting.:D
Wow dalli_x , while your theories sometimes go beyond current knowledge of science this one actually makes alot of sense.
I think even hitting it right on the spot. Just hoping DPC forcing MC to make choises we normally should not make. Just to add drama to our current relationship(s)
Only the "others" path would make a profit out of then ;)
 
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NebulousShooter

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Wow dalli_x , while your theories sometimes go beyond current knowledge of science this one actually makes alot of sense.
I think even hitting it right on the spot. Just hoping DPC forcing MC to make choises we normally should not make. Just to add drama to our current relationship(s)
Only the "others" path would make a profit out of then ;)
To be fair his forced interactions have been pretty light compared to other VN I've played, basically DPC forces us the introductory interactions with the LI, such as Bella drunken kiss, asking Jill out, living with Maya and he also forces us to stay somewhat friendly with the LI we reject/ignore, because they are needed for the overall story.

I know some people hate stuff like these, but I think all things considered, at least in terms of LI, DPC forced interactions have been believable so far and I am perfectly ok with it. That might change in the future, we have to wait and see what he has in store for Zoey.

Edit: If you read my last post you can see I have issues with the forced interactions related to the overall plot, but the ones related to the love interests are just fine.
 
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After replaying Interlude, I discovered why the MC didn't know if it was love between him and Zoey or not. Why the MC has not yet told his LI, egeal which one, that he loves her.

Zoey's notebook says that the MC told Zoey the three words during sex. Zoey was surprised and almost fell off the MC laughing. So it is written in Zoey's notebook.

Later, shortly before their sex Zoey wants the MC to make dirty talk.

Zoey: "I know you are, baby. How about if you talk dirty to me instead?"
MC: "Um..."
Zoey: "What's wrong?"
MC: "Nothing."
Zoey: "It's not about last time is it?"
MC: "You laughed at me; that leaves scars."
Zoey: "I didn't Iaugh at you. It just took me by surprise."

The MC has been emotionally scarred by this and rightly wonders whether or not it was love between Zoey and the MC. For the MC, it was love.

This changed my view of Zoey, even though she doesn't like to talk about feelings, her reaction to the three words was inappropriate, especially because she knows the MC and knows he is a softie. But karma catches up with Zoey. She realizes that she loves the MC too, but the chance is gone. Zoey will end up like Emma. Zoey realized herself that she and Emma have things in common. Ergo, Zoey could become a disruptive factor for the LI's because Emma also can't see Bret dating other girls.

This will be exciting.:D
could it be that the words he said are written somewhere?
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Maybe I am expecting too much in asking the MC to connect what he knows about Quinn's restaurant, the 'free tuition' rumors from Maya(Even though he questions this exact thing in his inner monologue at that time), what he has seen here at the party and the fact that Burke is the head faculty member, but in worst case scenario he should be able to realize that Burke is very likely a client in Quinn's restaurant.
I think this is partly to serve as an explanation if Fuckface decides not to purchase from Quinn's restaurant. If he doesnt order the takeout, he has no proof of what's going on, just suspicion.

Also, I suspect DPC always intended on fleshing out Quinn further. So for plot reasons, the MC doesnt explore further
 
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But that is the thing, I sill feel this outcome is only happening this way because DPC wants the plot not question it too early, before he hits us with one of his cliffhanger twists.

Maybe I am expecting too much in asking the MC to connect what he knows about Quinn's restaurant, the 'free tuition' rumors from Maya(Even though he questions this exact thing in his inner monologue at that time), what he has seen here at the party and the fact that Burke is the head faculty member, but in worst case scenario he should be able to realize that Burke is very likely a client in Quinn's restaurant.

Yet he still doesn't tell Maya anything, not when she tells him that she slapped Quinn in ep6, not before going to the meeting. He doesn't have proof, but he at least should feel the need to warn Maya to not get her hopes up and be weary of this shady individual. At this point I have a theory MC is tired of Maya's bs and is setting up her downfall so he can have Josy' succulent ass all for himself.
you're right it's a bit forced. but a conscious mc would have created too many problems to the plot with both Quinn and Sage

if MC really understood what happened to Mona and therefore what Maya would have risked, could he ever agree to organize the Halloween party with Quinn? to me it seems ridiculous that he doesn't at least raise doubts and accept Sage's will even if he is in a relationship with Maya (and that Maya accepts it too), but anyway he MUST organize the Halloween party with Quinn (probably it will be an important moment in the economy of the story and not just a fuckfest like the Preps party and the one in the dormitory), so something must be forgiven to Quinn

in the same way if he had even a suspicion about what Quinn is doing he should warn Sage, I'm a little bit afraid that this thing will be thrown in his face again, instead this senile state allows the story to proceed placidly.
 

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I don't think she meant "Ride me, Zoey." That's what Zoey wanted to hear. If the MC had said that, Zoey wouldn't have almost fallen off the MC laughing.:rolleyes:(y)
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It's all written down, there is no room for interpretation here,
"I want you to talk dirty, and those words just made me proud."
" next time I promise to ride you."
 

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The MC told Maya in EP2 that Quinn uses the girls to make money. This is how it is written.

The MC can refuse Quinn's restaurant offer, but that doesn't mean he doesn't agree if some girls voluntarily choose to make money that way. However, he can make it unmistakably clear that he does not want such a girl. All he has to do is refuse Quinn's offer.

Geoff was looking for his daughter. We now know that Sage is not his daughter. But from Sage we learn that her father is looking for her, and that is Stephen Burke. He sees a tall sexy redhead walk into a room and mistakes Sage for Mona. Why is Mona going into that room? Order from Quinn. Mona is probably supposed to fuck a foreman and is waiting for the foreman. But Stephen comes in and Mona drops that she just wanted to fuck young guys for money. Jade only suspects that Stephen has been fucking coeds. He neither agrees nor denies it. Somehow this sounds familiar from Interlude. Bret did the same thing with Emma. But opportunity makes thieves, as they say. Jade believes that, and Stephen has her chance in EP5. So Stephen takes the initiative. But Mona runs away.

EP6 "Damage Control"
Quinn finds out, of course. But she doesn't know everything either. She assumes Stephen wanted to buy sex from Mona, but she doesn't know the story. So Quinn uses Professor Stephen Burke's name as leverage against Mona.

Quinn: "Do you think Professor Stephen Burke would allow a female student to solicit sex on campus?"

The sentence is very strange because Stephen is said to have done just that with Mona. Ergo, he wouldn't mind. But Stephen likes women his age. It is likely that he had sex with Cathy. There is even said to have been a threesome with Isabella, his wife Jade, and Stephen continues to stalk Isabella.

Sttephen deleted Mona's tuition. Ergo, she already existed. This would then mean that Stephen already fucked Mona, even though she didn't have it. Paradoxical or not?

But why does Mona have to go?

Quinn: "Do you think Professor Stephen Burke will allow a female student to solicit sex on campus?"

Maybe Mona and Stephen made a different deal? Mona has agreed to tell everything she knows about Quinn. Stephen is also sure he wants to protect his daughter Sage from a criminal girlfriend. So Stephen lets Mona go for now because Quinn also threatened Mona and she will come back later when Quinn is gone.

Didn't you also notice that Quinn doesn't show up in EP9 Renders despite her popularity with the players? That gives me pause for thought. Quinn probably won't disappear in EP9, but she's probably on DPC's hit list.
You know what, your theory made me think that it would be an interesting twist if we just assume since Stephen is perving on Cathy and Bella that he is also sleazy with students and it turns out he is not, he is just a buffoon like his son(Porn Logic dictates that we can't have competent male villains anyway) and a drunken buffoon at that, stumbling from one place to another. His connection with Quinn and the tuition program could be explained in some other way maybe.

But it has the big problem of Jade knowing/having proof(?) that Stephen has fucked students before. :unsure:
 

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It is exactly the same... :KEK:
That's only with Dik affinity, it's "take my visa" with chick affinity....
Okay... take my visa ( while I quickly revoke access to it :p ) just leave my beer and shut the fucking door behind yaaa ! :KEK:
Holy shit, of all the times I've played its the first time I got hit by Sage in sparing. Half of the HP bar in one punch, forget the alphas, what steroids is she on :eek:
Do you play it on Hard mode ? As I figured " that " Sage " fight " is on another level than all the others... a strong second place when you " fight " Tommy ;) It's best to give him another opportunity to bump into Tania once again :p:KEK:
 
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At the end of the Interlude, we can see MC in a phone call with his dad, talking about Zoey being back and all, but we also hear Sage shouting at MC to get out of the restroom. I wonder if the development at that point is affected by your choices with Sage and Jade.
 

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At the end of the Interlude, we can see MC in a phone call with his dad, talking about Zoey being back and all, but we also hear Sage shouting at MC to get out of the restroom. I wonder if the development at that point is affected by your choices with Sage and Jade.
surely those choices will have a weight, but they are not related to the scene with Sage, that's for everyone, more likely to be related to the meeting with Maya (also the preview of the chapter goes in this direction)
 

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Do you know how true that is? Do you know how many people don't check to see if their devices are powered on...... Then, there are the special idiots who start yelling "Why isn't it working!" Only to fingure out they didn't take their laptop, modem, phone, etc... out of the box.
 
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The MC told Maya in EP2 that Quinn uses the girls to make money. This is how it is written.
Here is how it is actually written:

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Notice how the MC has already figured out that Quinn wants to pimp out Maya, but inexplicably stops short of telling Maya about Quinn's prostitution business. He tells her that Quinn uses the girls to make money, and that she is evil and not to be trusted. Maya fails to put two and two together, then goes to Quinn's defence and says that Quinn isn't evil. Which is very odd since she had just been crying over how Quinn humiliated her, and had also just watched Quinn taser the MC in the throat until he passed out. This is one of the many reasons why Quinn is the worst written character in the game. Everyone who could and should be warned about her worst kept secret just doesn't speak of it for no reason at all.

EP6 "Damage Control"
Quinn finds out, of course. But she doesn't know everything either. She assumes Stephen wanted to buy sex from Mona, but she doesn't know the story. So Quinn uses Professor Stephen Burke's name as leverage against Mona.

Quinn: "Do you think Professor Stephen Burke would allow a female student to solicit sex on campus?"
Of course she knows everything. Anyone who reads the full conversation can see that.

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As usual, Quinn fucked up by misjudging a situation. She talked Mona into meeting a client, but didn't tell her that client was Stephen Burke. Mona was a "go-getter" because Quinn was letting her believe that she would just be banging college dudes, and Mona panicked because she was unprepared for situation Quinn put her in. Quinn figured that Mona wouldn't have the guts to refuse Stephen, and would give in under pressure. And she was wrong. As always.

Quinn: "Do you think Professor Stephen Burke would allow a female student to solicit sex on campus?"

The sentence is very strange because Stephen is said to have done just that with Mona. Ergo, he wouldn't mind.
Not strange at all.

Quinn is making a very standard veiled threat here against Mona by playing the classic "Nobody will believe you" card. That's why she asks her "Do you think Professor Stephen Burke will allow a student to solicit sex on campus?" It's a rhetorical question used to get Mona to think about what will happen to her if she doesn't shut her pie hole. Who will people believe? An upstanding and respected professor, or some random girl who is whoring herself out. That's what Quinn is doing here.

Stephen deleted Mona's tuition. Ergo, she already existed. This would then mean that Stephen already fucked Mona, even though she didn't have it. Paradoxical or not?
Not paradoxical. He gave the grant in advance, then revoked it when she failed to fulfill her end of the deal. Then he expelled her.

But why does Mona have to go?
Because she already spilled the beans to Lily. She's a lose end and Burke needed her gone.

This ain't rocket appliances, buddy. The whole situation is pretty clear cut. The only mystery about Quinn's restaurant is why the hell the MC doesn't tell anyone about it?

He starts to tell Maya, but then stops short and refuses to elaborate after she asked him to clarify his perplexingly vague warnings about Quinn. He doesn't ask Sage about it either, even though he's had three perfect opportunities to bring it up with her. Maya, Josy, Sage, and Jade should all be furious with the MC when Chekhov's gun finally goes off. Bella and Jill aren't likely to be too impressed with the MC either.

It's so stupid that DPC keeps propping up his writer's pet like this. The MC was angry with Maya and Josy for their lies of omissions, so he's being a massively hypocritical douche for doing the same thing now. If the MC had told Maya and Sage, and they wouldn't believe him without proof, then it would create a scenario where Quinn would be forced to cover her tracks while the MC tries to expose her. Quinn could've been built up to look like a clever mastermind by keeping things going under scrutiny, instead of just looking like a bumbling imbecile that constantly screws up everything but magically avoids all fallout because the MC won't say a damn thing to anyone ever.

Maybe Mona and Stephen made a different deal? Mona has agreed to tell everything she knows about Quinn. Stephen is also sure he wants to protect his daughter Sage from a criminal girlfriend. So Stephen lets Mona go for now because Quinn also threatened Mona and she will come back later when Quinn is gone.
The... I... what the fuck are you on about? Sage doesn't have a girlfriend, and we already saw Sage cow Quinn into submission earlier, so we know that she doesn't need any protection either. And even if she did, there would be no need for a convoluted scheme like that.

It would be trivial for Burke to get rid of Quinn. Just have security do a surprise inspection of her dorm, and then kick her out for all the various drugs she has lying around. Quinn can't do jack shit without Stephen. Everything she said to Mona also applies to her. Nobody would believe her any more than they would Mona. Probably even less considering her appearance, behaviour, background, etc.
 
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