VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[SomboSteel]

She is Hot. Her being Virgin was the least interesting for me. She started off interesting, and she had her flaw when she went behind MC's back. But i liked the Stubborn, determination. And in episode 4, She grown on me during the Tennis play, I think it was one of the best datet. Jill has her ups and downs of course, In the beginning, but that was mostly because of the narrative, I was not fun of the "Forced" element of her, but that's apply to almost anyone.
Another thing is that She was Better in the first 5 episode, The Tybalt thing damaged her a bit. ep 6 - ep8
But didn't make her unlikable, just naive.
So overall She is a solid Hot Girl, who has lots of potential. And I'm really curious about how she would be evolving now that , 3 of the major thing was resolved about her.

The Tybalt, Blackmail,
The Concert
and The virginity loss.

It was a long road, 8 episode overall. But Maya is still in the loan problem, it didn't change, just expanded with Josy and now with Sage. .
I understand that She is a "meme", but now it's just entering to a boring theritory of her constant mockery.
But Hey I survived, the constant Josy Maya hate back in the days, this will pass too eventually. .

fair enough

all the main girls and pretty much all the side girls are attractive, so for me looks isnt the selling point since they are all like 10s. for me it comes down to personality first and foremost, and that why Sage was the first girl that hooked me. she felt like the most real/believable characters, she is outgoing and likes sex and yet she is still studious and responsible. she felt like a real girl i could meet at university. the other girls all started out a bit to stereotypical for my liking (compared to Sage at least).

Jill is soooo pure and naïve and inexperienced, that she might as well be a middle school girl in a grown woman's body. her being the uber rich princess that MC has to white knight for and eventually "save" like a damsel with no real agency isnt my cup of tea either. it was borderline annoying to me at first lol. also i knew girls in high school that were "saving themselves for marriage" (and they did) but they would still go to parties and drink and have fun with everyone else, they just wouldnt fuck. Early on the game makes it seem like Jill literally just sits in her ivory tower and practices piano when she isnt butting her way into other people's business.

Bella being the super cold Ice Queen librarian with insane proportions was also a little too on the nose and stereotypical for me as well. Sage was the first character that felt like she was adequately fleshed out beyond her 2 dimensional trope that she was based on. That isnt to say that the other characters arent getting that treatment too, but its slow and inconsistent (i wont even mention Maya or Josy lol) and the only other person who feels like they have genuine progress in this way besides Sage is Quinn of all people.

but from my time in the past on DPC patreon and of course my experience with lots of people on this site from over the years, Jill being a virgin is a REALLY big deal to lots of people out there

 

[hakuna-matata]

Jill is more of a Disney Princess, Notebook romance movie kind of girl.

 

[Lostanddamned]

fair enough

all the main girls and pretty much all the side girls are attractive, so for me looks isnt the selling point since they are all like 10s. for me it comes down to personality first and foremost, and that why Sage was the first girl that hooked me. she felt like the most real/believable characters, she is outgoing and likes sex and yet she is still studious and responsible. she felt like a real girl i could meet at university. the other girls all started out a bit to stereotypical for my liking (compared to Sage at least).

Jill is soooo pure and naïve and inexperienced, that she might as well be a middle school girl in a grown woman's body. her being the uber rich princess that MC has to white knight for and eventually "save" like a damsel with no real agency isnt my cup of tea either. it was borderline annoying to me at first lol. also i knew girls in high school that were "saving themselves for marriage" (and they did) but they would still go to parties and drink and have fun with everyone else, they just wouldnt fuck. Early on the game makes it seem like Jill literally just sits in her ivory tower and practices piano when she isnt butting her way into other people's business.

Bella being the super cold Ice Queen librarian with insane proportions was also a little too on the nose and stereotypical for me as well. Sage was the first character that felt like she was adequately fleshed out beyond her 2 dimensional trope that she was based on. That isnt to say that the other characters arent getting that treatment too, but its slow and inconsistent (i wont even mention Maya or Josy lol) and the only other person who feels like they have genuine progress in this way besides Sage is Quinn of all people.

but from my time in the past on DPC patreon and of course my experience with lots of people on this site from over the years, Jill being a virgin is a REALLY big deal to lots of people out there

Please tell these people about DPC's Discord Retards, because people think I'm joking when I mention them.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Blue is better

 

[ChipLecsap]

What do you people think would be the direction of the Jill story?

Well, one part of it is already set up for it. Her Sister. Jill campaign or whatever it's called , in the name of her sister. What happened to her sister. what is actually the story. and DPC love to create connections between characters. And probably gonna bring new people into the mix. We already see some of her friend, and there is this Jonathan guy she was texting and speaking with.
so there's that. She also check the locked Door of Bella, and She at least knew a bit about Bella past. She and Bella, kind of have a fresh start, at least when you are on their path. Like a new beggining, so it can go any direction.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Well, one part of it is already set up for it. Her Sister. Jill campaign or whatever it's called , in the name of her sister. What happened to her sister. what is actually the story. and DPC love to create connections between characters. And probably gonna bring new people into the mix. We already see some of her friend, and there is this Jonathan guy she was texting and speaking with.
so there's that. She also check the locked Door of Bella, and She at least knew a bit about Bella past. She and Bella, kind of have a fresh start, at least when you are on their path. Like a new beggining, so it can go any direction.

for the game of pairings between the LIs, I also believe that regardless of whether we pursue Jill or not she will play an important role in Bella's story, the other way around maybe not

 

[schinoize]

What do you people think would be the direction of the Jill story?

I mean from what I take DPC loves drama? I'd personally be happy with 'boring' relationship stuff. Get Jill more out of her shell. Meet her friends again, do some trading with Andy.^^ See how Bianca mixes up the Halloween party.
Other than that, there's this possible connection between MC's mom and Bianca's mom, to learn more about MC's history. The campaign for her sister, where MC could help. And the locked door at Bella's Jill also knows about.

fair enough

all the main girls and pretty much all the side girls are attractive, so for me looks isnt the selling point since they are all like 10s. for me it comes down to personality first and foremost, and that why Sage was the first girl that hooked me. she felt like the most real/believable characters, she is outgoing and likes sex and yet she is still studious and responsible. she felt like a real girl i could meet at university. the other girls all started out a bit to stereotypical for my liking (compared to Sage at least).

Jill is soooo pure and naïve and inexperienced, that she might as well be a middle school girl in a grown woman's body. her being the uber rich princess that MC has to white knight for and eventually "save" like a damsel with no real agency isnt my cup of tea either. it was borderline annoying to me at first lol. also i knew girls in high school that were "saving themselves for marriage" (and they did) but they would still go to parties and drink and have fun with everyone else, they just wouldnt fuck. Early on the game makes it seem like Jill literally just sits in her ivory tower and practices piano when she isnt butting her way into other people's business.

Bella being the super cold Ice Queen librarian with insane proportions was also a little too on the nose and stereotypical for me as well. Sage was the first character that felt like she was adequately fleshed out beyond her 2 dimensional trope that she was based on. That isnt to say that the other characters arent getting that treatment too, but its slow and inconsistent (i wont even mention Maya or Josy lol) and the only other person who feels like they have genuine progress in this way besides Sage is Quinn of all people.

but from my time in the past on DPC patreon and of course my experience with lots of people on this site from over the years, Jill being a virgin is a REALLY big deal to lots of people out there

You guys know way better about the overall importance of the virgin trope, no doubt. I'd also agree on Sage being the best fleshed out 'real' character.
Funny, on my first blind playthrough I was like 'hell naw' when Sage asked me to help her with Chad. Didn't want to have anything to do with that. Didn't mind Jill butting her way into MC business with Chad though. Also, when I said she came off very strong in the early episodes, I obviously didn't see Season 2 coming haha.
I'm not saying I'd go for her type/character everytime in other AVNs as well. Just in this particular case here, she worked well for me, for the reasons above.

 

[ChipLecsap]

but from my time in the past on DPC patreon and of course my experience with lots of people on this site from over the years, Jill being a virgin is a REALLY big deal to lots of people out there

And I won't deny, that I think DPC "catered" toward this audience. Because I think Jill originally wasn't meant to be a Virgin, lack of experience sure. But I think some of the original Idea changed based on feedbacks. I honestly think Quinn is also one of it.

so I do think DPC is listening feedback, and do alter here and there, so one may can say He listening to "criticism" . obviously not in a major way. but in a "slightly" way.

 

[Lostanddamned]

I mean from what I take DPC loves drama? I'd personally be happy with 'boring' relationship stuff. Get Jill more out of her shell. Meet her friends again, do some trading with Andy.^^ See how Bianca mixes up the Halloween party.
Other than that, there's this possible connection between MC's mom and Bianca's mom, to learn more about MC's history.

Bianca can tell my MC more about their moms as he fucks her.

 

[sorco2003]

And I won't deny, that I think DPC "catered" toward this audience. Because I think Jill originally wasn't meant to be a Virgin, lack of experience sure. But I think some of the original Idea changed based on feedbacks. I honestly think Quinn is also one of it.

so I do think DPC is listening feedback, and do alter here and there, so one may can say He listening to "criticism" . obviously not in a major way. but in a "slightly" way.

DPC "listening" feedback about Jill

 

[Walter Victor]

Because I'm genuinely curious as to why would someone pick a frogface over a redhead or a blonde

Your post is why I hate waifu wars with a passion on these threads, and is why I even bothered to answer you in the first place. Every time, someone thinks that just because they like some character in particular, they are entitled (and even forced) to dump on one or all other possible LI's and their adherents. It's childish, clutters up the threads and serves no useful purpose, unless it IS your purpose to piss people off.

I have no intention of ever defending or explaining my reasons for liking or disliking characters on this or any other thread. My reasons are mine.

 

[OFT]

On an unrelated note, this has to be the most unflattering render of any character in the entire game!

Ooof. You might be right.

And it's even less flattering as an avatar:

Anyone who chose Jill route: why?

Why I Like Jill in 0 Words or Less:




Also:





Yeah, call her whatever you want, but when it comes to Miss Royce:

 

[jaw1986baby]

Your post is why I hate waifu wars with a passion on these threads, and is why I even bothered to answer you in the first place. Every time, someone thinks that just because they like some character in particular, they are entitled (and even forced) to dump on one or all other possible LI's and their adherents. It's childish, clutters up the threads and serves no useful purpose, unless it IS your purpose to piss people off.

I have no intention of ever defending or explaining my reasons for liking or disliking characters on this or any other thread. My reasons are mine.

Well said.

I know my love for redheads and even more so my love for petite, small boobs is not shared by everyone.

So while I may vociferously declare "Audrey is best girl" I do not insult other women for not being my taste. Honestly I can see how others find something to like in the other characters of almost any VN easier than I can understand some of the kinks they like but even there, everyone has their thing so more power to them.


I suppose the one thing I draw the line at, is generally showing hate or disdain towards any certain group.

So if I do not like it in a game/AVN I seriously would not like to see it here in real life discussion.


Thank you Walter for your post.







PEACE

 

[Heycock]

Your post is why I hate waifu wars with a passion on these threads, and is why I even bothered to answer you in the first place. Every time, someone thinks that just because they like some character in particular, they are entitled (and even forced) to dump on one or all other possible LI's and their adherents. It's childish, clutters up the threads and serves no useful purpose, unless it IS your purpose to piss people off.

I have no intention of ever defending or explaining my reasons for liking or disliking characters on this or any other thread. My reasons are mine.

Maybe they are practicing for marriage:
LI: Why you were talking with Jill?
Fanboy: With that goblin? It was just the story, I was forced to do so...

 

[janedoe256]

I don't understand what you're getting at. Sage agreed to date the MC

Sorry, I meant Quinn.

 

[janedoe256]

I'm sad that Sage is not a main LI. I love a hard-to-get LI. Everyone else is just weirdly eager to fall in love with MC.

 

[ciberma7865]

I'm sad that Sage is not a main LI. I love a hard-to-get LI. Everyone else is just weirdly eager to fall in love with MC.

in BaDIK a LI doesn't mean the girl fall for mc it means that MC fall in love with her (or them)

 

[Heycock]

I'm sad that Sage is not a main LI. I love a hard-to-get LI. Everyone else is just weirdly eager to fall in love with MC.

Then i have good news for you man. Sage is a LI and there are no jerchies beetween them, so she is a main LI.

 

[OFT]

 

[mindern]

Given the whole need for stuff to be on topic.... So you know how the MC is working towards graduating with a degree in engineering?

This a hypothetical... What if he graduated with a solid MEng... some time went by and he was a long time poster on this forum, maybe he liked Jill and made her his display picture. Maybe he was weirdly obnoxious about most things. Maybe he did a real specific but shitty engineering job for a while but applied to some VR company on a whim. Maybe he got the job...maybe he's so excited about it that he made a hypothetical on a titty game forum because this is the kinda life changing opportunity that finally lets him talk with authority on more than breast pumps... which never actually came up in the story and that hurts a little.


Maybe the MC loses track of his analogy... maybe he just want to show off about his new job.