VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ename144]

I remain convinced that it is an addition

AVNs are also a very particular industry

but let's also take a different media as cinema can be: however perfectly related to the scene the soundtrack is a compendium, a bad scene remains bad even with the best soundtrack, and a movie of which you remember with pleasure only the soundtrack was probably a mediocre movie

AVNs without music I do not "necessarily" see them as inferior to one with music

Music is no more an addition to a game than text boxes, cutscenes, and keyboard shortcuts (or mouse commands, for us DOS grognards). You can make a game without any or all of those and it may well be an excellent game, but that doesn't mean ignoring them will make no difference if a game *does* include them. Sure, mediocre soundtracks add little; that's why they're considered mediocre! I don't see how that has any bearing on the value of soundtracks in and of themselves, much less on a discussion of a game that most assuredly does *not* have a mediocre soundtrack.

As I said, people are free to play the game however they like. If they find the game more enjoyable that way, fantastic; their enjoyment is no less valid just because their playstyle is atypical. But by the same token it is absurd to say that whatever their playstyle changed must therefore have been valueless as originally implemented.

Hopefully we'll see a deep throat from Josie in episode 9. Meanwhile, I keep a list of deep gulps.

Lily - champion

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Sage - vice champion

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3rd place - Riona

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However, I believe that Josy has great potential!

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Point of order! How does Lily claim the title over Sage? As I recall, Lily needed to be upside down to deepthroat the MC, but Sage was able to do it rightside up. Seems to me like the edge goes to Sage.

 

[dalli_x]

Yes, she is.
1. Uncovering a gay who is encrypted is a very difficult task. In behavior, they do not differ from heterosexuals, all that we know about them from old movies is stereotypes and prejudices. Chad is good at hiding erection problems with Sage by taking steroids.
2. She doesn't see what's going on in the sorority. She dumped all the work on Quinn, while doing her dissertation. She doesn't actually lead the community. And Quinn is from a crime family, very good at conspiracy.
You're right about one thing, the sisterhood is on fire that Quinn started. And she's like that dog from the meme, sitting in the middle of a fire and saying "THIS IS FINE"

You're forgetting something else in point 2. Sage is working on her dissertation, but she also had the problem with Chad, which took a lot out of Sage emotionally. Yes Quinn benefits from Sage's situation. Who sent the blackmail letters to Chad and Dawe again?

 

[dalli_x]

Dude, they live together under the same damn roof. She didn't realize that her flatmate is selling drugs. She didn't realize that her flatmates are prostitutes. How can it be?

Man, are you for real?

Are you trolling?

As John McEnroe would say: "You cannot be serious!"

To be honest, I don't think Sage knows anything about Quinn's drug business. On the subject of prostitution, I have a slightly different opinion. I can well imagine that Sage knows that some HOTs earn some extra money with prostitution and she will tolerate that. But she probably won't know that Quinn is pressuring the girls and Sage wouldn't tolerate and stop that either.

 

[Ilhares]

in my opinion, however, the pinnacle of randomly put "girl power" remains the scene in the endgame, where a handful of heroines, who do not know each other, promise protection to Miss Marvel herself, who is hundreds of times more powerful than they are.


what do you mean by FTL? faster than light?

Don't forget how they all magically teleported from different places across the battlefield at pretty much the same time, too!

And yes, faster than light. FTL tech would be quite handy, even today. Instant communication with our deep space probes and planetary rovers, etc. So convenient. I'm not worried about 20-30ms here and there, but 15 minute delays are just rubbish.

as mood inducing as the music, is to deprive one's self indeed!

Music is very powerful. It's not just icing on the cake, it's an important ingredient!

If the scene writing can't and imagery can't set the mood, I don't give a shit about the music. But for what it's worth, when I make a nice chocolate cake, I also don't put frosting on it. A good cake doesn't need it, either.

I'm not being "deprived" of anything. It's not a piece I want that I'm not allowed to have. It's extra bullshit that I don't want. I also don't need parsley on my plate when I have a nice steak dinner. It's a frivolous waste that will not benefit my meal.

I'm not telling anybody else they can't enjoy, but some people have acted like I came into their kitchen and shit on their cast iron skillet, just because I will not play a game with the music enabled.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Music is no more an addition to a game than text boxes, cutscenes, and keyboard shortcuts (or mouse commands, for us DOS grognards). You can make a game without any or all of those and it may well be an excellent game, but that doesn't mean ignoring them will make no difference if a game *does* include them. Sure, mediocre soundtracks add little; that's why they're considered mediocre! I don't see how that has any bearing on the value of soundtracks in and of themselves, much less on a discussion of a game that most assuredly does *not* have a mediocre soundtrack.

As I said, people are free to play the game however they like. If they find the game more enjoyable that way, fantastic; their enjoyment is no less valid just because their playstyle is atypical. But by the same token it is absurd to say that whatever their playstyle changed must therefore have been valueless as originally implemented.

I'm missing something...

the point of the discussion, I thought, was how much playing it without music limited the experience, not that the music in general, and of BADIK in particular was useless

for me it is a marginal aspect, without music it won't be 100% but it won't be 70% either

never questioned the effort that DPC puts into it, and he does well because it definitely adds something, but for me the judgment of BADIk would change little overall whether it was with or without music, and I often play it with audio.

 

[Master5043]

You're forgetting something else in point 2. Sage is working on her dissertation, but she also had the problem with Chad, which took a lot out of Sage emotionally. Yes Quinn benefits from Sage's situation. Who sent the blackmail letters to Chad and Dawe again?

I heard about the theory that Quinn made it. But something doesn't fit together, the purpose of these pics was to frame the DIK's or unleash a war of brotherhoods. I think the situation with the photo has nothing to do with Quinn, I'm leaning towards the traitor inside the DIK fraternity. Quinn and DIK traitor may be unrelated storylines. Too little information to know for sure

 

[SteveyP]

Point of order! How does Lily claim the title over Sage? As I recall, she needed to be upside down to deepthroat the MC, but Sage was able to do it rightside up. Seems to me like the edge goes to Sage.

Another title contender would be Becky. But I agree, Sage is arguably the pound for pound Throat Goat champion of Being a DIK.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Music is no more an addition to a game than text boxes, cutscenes, and keyboard shortcuts (or mouse commands, for us DOS grognards). You can make a game without any or all of those and it may well be an excellent game, but that doesn't mean ignoring them will make no difference if a game *does* include them. Sure, mediocre soundtracks add little; that's why they're considered mediocre! I don't see how that has any bearing on the value of soundtracks in and of themselves, much less on a discussion of a game that most assuredly does *not* have a mediocre soundtrack.

As I said, people are free to play the game however they like. If they find the game more enjoyable that way, fantastic; their enjoyment is no less valid just because their playstyle is atypical. But by the same token it is absurd to say that whatever their playstyle changed must therefore have been valueless as originally implemented.



Point of order! How does Lily claim the title over Sage? As I recall, she needed to be upside down to deepthroat the MC, but Sage was able to do it rightside up. Seems to me like the edge goes to Sage.

Lily's poses are harder and more dangerous. When a girl lies upside down on the bed and a guy inserts a penis into her throat, it is quite dangerous, since there is a risk of simply suffocating. During a сlassic deep throat, the girl still controls the process (at least partially), here the guy does everything for her, he can calculate incorrectly and get carried away as a result, the throat will be damaged.

Just try to lie on the bed upside down and eat something. It will be harder for you to swallow, food may get stuck in your throat. It's the same here.

 

[ename144]

I'm missing something...

the point of the discussion, I thought, was how much playing it without music limited the experience, not that the music in general, and of BADIK in particular was useless

for me it is a marginal aspect, without music it won't be 100% but it won't be 70% either

never questioned the effort that DPC puts into it, and he does well because it definitely adds something, but for me the judgment of BADIk would change little overall whether it was with or without music, and I often play it with audio.

Hmmm. I thought the discussion was about the difference between playing without sound 'limiting' the experience vs. it 'changing' the experience. I don't think it's fair to say someone like Ilhares is getting a lesser experience because he hates soundtracks, but I do think it's fair to say it changes his experience.

Of course, some of that change may be baked in already. DPC could intend for, say, Quinn to feel sympathetic thanks to

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, but that doesn't mean every player will feel that way. Some might not find the song sufficiently melancholic, others might feel the music is trying too hard. Or music might not make much of a difference in how a given player feels at all. If a player claims that soundtracks add little to a story for them, I'll take them at their word. But I'm also going to discount their take when it comes time to discussing the merits of the soundtrack in general.

To me, playing a game like BaDIK on mute is similar to playing a solo run in a harem AVN. It's a perfectly valid thing to try and some players may prefer sticking with a single girl (like me, for example), but I think it's worth bearing in mind that it's rarely the "intended" experience.

Lily's poses are harder and more dangerous. When a girl lies upside down on the bed and a guy inserts a penis into her throat, it is quite dangerous, since there is a risk of simply suffocating. During a сlassic deep throat, the girl still controls the process (at least partially), here the guy does everything for her, he can calculate incorrectly and get carried away as a result, the throat will be damaged.

Perhaps, but that seems to suggest Lily is more desperate, not that she's actually more capable.

 

[SteveyP]

Lily's poses are harder and more dangerous. When a girl lies upside down on the bed and a guy inserts a penis into her throat, it is quite dangerous, since there is a risk of simply suffocating. During a сlassic deep throat, the girl still controls the process (at least partially), here the guy does everything for her, he can calculate incorrectly and get carried away as a result, the throat will be damaged.

Just try to lie on the bed upside down and eat something. It will be harder for you to swallow, food may get stuck in your throat. It's the same here.

While that is true, the contention here is that Lily had to get the angle right in order to take all of MC, implying that she's comfortable in that position (doesn't mean the risk isn't there anymore but it's worth noting). MC even tells Lily that he's going to keep a specific pace and to tap his leg if she needs a breather (Good on MC for establishing boundaries for Lily's comfort). Whereas Sage took all of it from the get go. Even let MC take over in terms of pacing and force.

Despite the risk to Lily's throat, I think all context provided would mean Sage has the edge. IMO. Or Becky for similar reasons I give Sage the title for.

 

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Josy deepthroathing the banana Edit:

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Cheers! I take it, that's a M&J path exclusive?

To add my 2 cents to the music discussion: I usually only play the first blind run with original music. During later playthroughs I usually prefer to listen to my own stuff or even nothing at all.
I rather listen to music I like, even if it might not fit every scene (like dance music during an emotional scene). I prefer that over listening to songs I don't like, even if they fit to their respective scene. With most AVNs I feel like it's 50/50 whether I like the song or not.
On a related note, I remember quite liking the SG soundtrack.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Josy deepthroathing the banana Edit:

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Keep practicing it Josy, that's not even Halfway in

 

[armion82]

Josy deepthroathing the banana Edit:

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One of the best if not the best banana deepthroat is in Big City's Pleasures.

 

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Hello, I have an error in the 4th free roam that says "image ep2 maya freeroam bg maya idle not found" and "maya hover not found" any solution?

 

[FlorenThanos Perez]

Hopefully we'll see a deep throat from Josie in episode 9. Meanwhile, I keep a list of deep gulps.

Lily - champion

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Sage - vice champion

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3rd place - Riona

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However, I believe that Josy has great potential!

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Sage is the best. End of. No competition.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Hello, I have an error in the 4th free roam that says "image ep2 maya freeroam bg maya idle not found" and "maya hover not found" any solution?

Can you send a screenshot with this error played on your screen?

Edit: Even better, you can find here on this site, UnRen 091. Very easy to use, it can extract game images, among other things. You will be able to search for your image and see if it is present or not

 

[LizaS]

Cheers! I take it, that's a M&J path exclusive?

Yep. I recommend playing different playthroughs. As this is one of those rare VNs that has its replayability to a maximum.

Like Josy and Maya helping you clean your room instead of Bella (if you're not on her path).

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[Kellermann]

DPC could intend for, say, Quinn to feel sympathetic thanks to

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, but that doesn't mean every player will feel that way.

Sage is the best. End of. No competition.

Going to have to agree there. Sage is the one you can really skull fuck. An eye watering, mascara running, deep throating, back against the wall, skull fuck for the ages.

Meanwhile, Maya is like...teehee it's warm in my hand MC. Just put it in your mouth already. And wear that orange dress and white boots again, m'kay pumpkin?

 

[shazba]

I'm not being "deprived" of anything. It's not a piece I want that I'm not allowed to have. It's extra bullshit that I don't want. I also don't need parsley on my plate when I have a nice steak dinner. It's a frivolous waste that will not benefit my meal.

I'm not telling anybody else they can't enjoy, but some people have acted like I came into their kitchen and shit on their cast iron skillet, just because I will not play a game with the music enabled.

I don't mind that you don't enjoy music in these games, it just makes for an interesting discussion. We could always go back to bashing Jill's face... Figuratively of course!

Heaps of people don’t put the sound on for these games, and each to his own; you certainly can’t miss what you don’t know. So if you already enjoy the game, what does it matter if you could enjoy it even more (or not, in the case you have some aversion to music).

But to compare it to parsley?

Ignoring all the food analogies, imagine Elias' death without "Adagio for Strings" (that's Adaigo, not Ahegao...), or Interstellar's docking scene on mute with subtitles, remove "Also Sprach Zarathustra" from "2001: A Space Odyssey" and all you've got is a crazy monkey whacking shit.

Just like a picture paints a thousand words, music portrays a thousand emotions! When used right, it doesn't just sound cool, a song can tells us things that would otherwise require a narrator, it can rachet up the adrenaline to greater heights, or it can take you to even lower depths in the event of a tragic scene.

When I fire up BaDIK and I'm greeted with The Friday Prophets' "Punk Rock Flu", it's like I'm being greeted by old friends. And I don't even really care for punk rock!

Randomly found an example of a scene where the music was removed (actually the entire scene was also hilariously dubbed - if you don't crack up when Chewy growls, there's no hope for you - and by "you" I mean anyone reading this shit, not specifically Ilhares, I imagine you're already beyond all hope ). So, for the definitive proof that music matters, watch these two clips:

There's no denying that tune would have made a significant impact on the Madame scenes...

 

[sixart]

There's no denying that tune would have made a significant impact on the Madame scenes...

No doubt !

We could always go back to bashing Jill's face...

I don't really get this... " and each to his own " and let's bash... ?
To what end ? And what happens to each to his own in a split second ?