VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[BarryStanton69]

What we sayin boys, is Heather getting the D at the Halloween party?

 

[Ilhares]

that was kind of "retconned". by DPC.
Quinn is just a weed seller, and in the first time she brought some cocaine, what she was not able to sell, in the end. so she "just " selling "light" drugs.

Disagree. A retcon would be removing or altering the scene. As of episode 8, it remains fully intact as part of the original season.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Disagree. A retcon would be removing or altering the scene. As of episode 8, it remains fully intact as part of the original season.

but Buddy points out how surprised he is by Quinn's request, which is evidently desperate enough to even go against her own rule. so for all we know she tried to sell cocaine once and failed (which happens to her a lot)

the syringe scene remains a punch in the gut, especially because it is unexpected, but aside from a few hints with Tommy's withdrawal (are we sure it is withdrawal?) it is really a cold lead

 

[Darkwen]

The tragedy of Josie is that she is completely in Maya's shadow, which makes me think that M/J is completely uninteresting to DPC. More attention is paid to Quinn as a character (it feels like), and Josie is perceived more as a side girl, rather than as the main one. MC has more chemistry and mutual understanding with Maya, Josie looks like a girl who managed to jump on the last car. I guess Zoya will be the second Josie in this regard.

I agree Josie is completely overshadow my Maya because there is no Josie. Josy on the other hand is whats makes Maya interesting other then her own story. Sure we know know about Maya's story then Josy's at this time but for me any way I feel like we know enough about her other then her past. Some say Maya brings Josy down I say she brings Maya up (fight me I said it ) With time DPC will fill in Josy story while MC fills her up. Josy is very first girl you meet and has the most or is in the top 3 for most scenes in the game.


This is not the face of a over look girl

 

[Ilhares]

I think someday you guys will stop quarreling over characters and a stupid plot, and just enjoy women's asses and jerk off.

Now that's just impractical. If we were going to that we have many other more suitable websites. All the discussion is due (in part) to the renders, but a lot of it is the characterization of the individuals. If Camila behaved like Heather I wouldn't like her remotely as much, even if she does have the best ass.

 

[mindern]

but Buddy points out how surprised he is by Quinn's request, which is evidently desperate enough to even go against her own rule. so for all we know she tried to sell cocaine once and failed (which happens to her a lot)

the syringe scene remains a punch in the gut, especially because it is unexpected, but aside from a few hints with Tommy's withdrawal (are we sure it is withdrawal?) it is really a cold lead

Quinn also lies about what she’s selling. The disconnect between what she actually sells and what claims to be able to sell could be because she’s desperate.

She roped in the preps and convinced them to buy cannabis despite it being implied they were introduced to her on the idea of coke.

She has been lying to the alphas about what they are buying, if I recall correctly she promised some kinda birth control that works as a performance enhancer and they got sugar pills.

Point being, the disconnect between what Quinn actually sells, what she promises to sell and what she actively tries to sell could be explained by pure desperation.

She needs cash, as we’ve widely discussed. She will do anything to get a sale and she’s only limited by the fact she can’t source harder drugs.

The syringe scene is weird but not a deal breaker. It’s one thing to buy hard drugs, another to deal it. Any idiot can score heroin from a low level dealer. Buying enough to supply is another thing. Dealers insulate themselves for a reason.

Overall I think Quinn is just way out of her depth. She keeps escalating these enterprises but at the end of the day she’s a college student with (seemingly) very little presence in the “underworld”. She is desperate and pushing for more and more (as the Rio scene supports) but really she’s out of her depth and can’t manage more than, in my opinion, than riding on Burke’s coattails for the prostitution gig and slinging drugs to her immediate friends.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Disagree. A retcon would be removing or altering the scene. As of episode 8, it remains fully intact as part of the original season.

No that's not what Retcon is. Retcon is when a previously established plot, change for the current plot.
an Example , like in Chuck, When Bryce Larking send the Intersect to Chuck, because he was the only one who he could trust. But later on when it was revealed that it was Chuck's father who created the Intersect, they "changed" this plot and said, Bryce knew all along who Chuck father was and thats why he send it to him. Retconned the previously established storyline.
Vampire Diaries did a similar thing with the Damon and elena relationship.

And DPC did the same thing when he told us, that it was the first time Quinn buy more than just weed.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The syringe scene is weird but not a deal breaker. It’s one thing to buy hard drugs, another to deal it. Any idiot can score heroin from a low level dealer. Buying enough to supply is another thing. Dealers insulate themselves for a reason.

I didn't mean it that way

seeing kids smoking a joint alarms us up to a point, seeing them injecting something right away evokes much less fun atmospheres. and that scene is shoved in our faces when we're still at the beginning of the game, giving us the idea of a much darker story than the one we're later going to experience

 

[mindern]

No that's not what Retcon is. Retcon is when a previously established plot, change for the current plot.
an Example , like in Chuck, When Bracy Larking send the Intersect to Chuck, because he was the only one who he could trust. But later on when it was revealed that it was Chuck's father who created the Intersect, the changed this plot and said, Bryce knew all along who Chuck father was and thats why he send it to him. Retconned the previously established storyline.
Vampire Diaries did a similar thing with the Damon and elena relationship.

And DPC did the same thing when he told us, that it was the first time Quinn buy more than just weed.

Eh… it’s a delicate thing.

Chuck, for example, is explainable. Bryce was a spy. Secrets was his trade. Obfuscation of his motivations isn’t absurd. He could have been lying at some point meaning it wasn’t a “retcon” just a development of his motivations.

Retcon implies the writer is ignoring their previous work entirely for the new one. Again, it’s a delicate distinction.

I’m waaaay too drunk to keep track of the BaDIK scene that was supposedly a retcon, but the Chuck thing proves an over arching point. There could be an explaination for Quinn we don’t yet know. It’s too soon to jump to retcon.

 

[mindern]

I didn't mean it that way

seeing kids smoking a joint alarms us up to a point, seeing them injecting something right away evokes much less fun atmospheres. and that scene is shoved in our faces when we're still at the beginning of the game, giving us the idea of a much darker story than the one we're later going to experience

Ah, my mistake. I agree!

It was darker than everything surrounding it. Darker than anything tommy ever did. It sets a bad precedent. I getcha now.

 

[QuixoteTheDon]

the issue is that every girl's narrative is flimsy and weak if you take more than a cursory glance at it. Quinn isn't the exception to the rule, she merely is the rule of DPC's drama factory. The blackmail with Jill is cringe as hell and makes no sense that she cant just tell Tybalt to fuck off, Maya's finance situation makes zero sense if examined logically, Sage's relationship with Chad and the accompanying drama makes little sense if they have been together for years and don't do anything intimate ever, etc. I could almost argue that Bella's mysterious issues are the presented the best so far, but that's only because we literally know nothing about them yet lol. As soon as DPC reveals the "true" reasons, they will likely be just as weak and full of holes as the others.

everyone's plotline is upheld merely for the sake of the dramatic/twist filled story DPC wants to tell

yes!

it's an extremely engaging porn soap opera...and soap operas are not known for their tight bulletproof plots.

It's just weed. Quinn is not some kind of Scarface or Heisenberg. .
she is actually an extremely small fish, the worst can happen to her is police scare her enough, to give up her suppliers.

It's more than just weed, but...

That little scenario I presented in my last post is set up on the premise that Quinn does a little time in a jail (a few months or a year) and comes out just a little bit less messed up. If she was truly just a criminal product of her own making and it was nobody else's fault, I'd be less forgiving towards her. But DPC decided to show us that flashback of her as a child, and my empathy kicked in. We are all masters of our fate, to a degree, but I've witnessed what bad parenting can do to steer a person's future towards bad decision making. Quinn needs to mature enough to realize that her father was a bad man, and that love can be a wonderful feeling.

I agree Josie is completely overshadow my Maya because there is no Josie. Josy on the other hand is whats makes Maya interesting other then her own story. Sure we know know about Maya's story then Josy's at this time but for me any way I feel like we know enough about her other then her past. Some say Maya brings Josy down I say she brings Maya up (fight me I said it ) With time DPC will fill in Josy story while MC fills her up. Josy is very first girl you meet and has the most or is in the top 3 for most scenes in the game.

My first BADIK playtrough was Maya and Josy one. It was also my last M&J pl. There is something in that storyline that I detest. I felt like the MC did at first, but that feeling never really went away for me. As a person, I don't truly believe in polyamorous relationships... or loving harems for that matter. I liked Maya... and got lesbian drama instead. I don't pursue them because I feel like that would be destroying their romantic relationship even though I can see that Josy is a little Dik affinity HOTtie deep down... actually just a scratch under the surface... and Maya seems like a bad fit for her character. Someone like Riona seems more appropriate, or the MC and his Sword of Power. So I choose the friends option when presented.

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[ChipLecsap]

Eh… it’s a delicate thing.

Chuck, for example, is explainable. Bryce was a spy. Secrets was his trade. Obfuscation of his motivations isn’t absurd. He could have been lying at some point meaning it wasn’t a “retcon” just a development of his motivations.

Retcon implies the writer is ignoring their previous work entirely for the new one. Again, it’s a delicate distinction.

I’m waaaay too drunk to keep track of the BaDIK scene that was supposedly a retcon, but the Chuck thing proves an over arching point. There could be an explaination for Quinn we don’t yet know. It’s too soon to jump to retcon.

as huge Chuck fan back in the days , that was a total Retcon. It changed the whole thing make it seems like it was " Destiny" for Chuck. kind of like his mom storyline out of the blue. Don't confuse this with "Plot twist". a "Plot twist", was when it was turned out, that it was Sarah, who killed Shaw's wife.

 

[dalli_x]

The tragedy of Josie is that she is completely in Maya's shadow, which makes me think that M/J is completely uninteresting to DPC. More attention is paid to Quinn as a character (it feels like), and Josie is perceived more as a side girl, rather than as the main one. MC has more chemistry and mutual understanding with Maya, Josie looks like a girl who managed to jump on the last car. I guess Zoya will be the second Josie in this regard.

My perception of Josy is different. She is not overshadowed by Maya, and Zoey differs from Josy in one important way. Josy has the most screen time of all the girls. But the most refreshing thing about Josy is that she is simple and down to earth. Just the way the MC likes it, if Zoey is to be believed. So I kind of always have in the back of my mind that Josy might have a dark secret because she's actually so normally perfect. Also, I don't see Maya's problem as Maya's problem alone. It's everyone's problem in the three-way relationship.

Josy also doesn't have a problem with showing feelings openly. That's the difference with Zoey, because Zoey has problems with that.

Quinn stands out, but for a reason. The reason? She's not an LI and she's not going to be. DPC is not going to change its story for Quinn's fans. Ergo, there probably won't be a happy ending for Quinn. The question I have about Quinn is whether she will go down alone or whether she will take someone else down with her. I imagine what might happen in DnG 2. Quinn stabs the MC. However, in EP8 we have the problem that the MC looks a lot like Tommy.

I just wrote the other day that Floyd could be the father of Tommy and Tybalt. Then Tommy would somehow also be Sage's brother and could hold her bleeding brother's hand in EP9 Preview 1. I already wrote after the preview came out that the reflection in Sage's eye would show two people. A dark haired man with a red spot in the stomach area and a geisha. Well, we know now that this can't be Riona. But a geisha is a great Halloween costume that could look good on Heather, too.

Fan Fiction:
Quinn's activities come to light. Quinn thinks it must have been the MC because he was at the meeting with the Burkes. She flees, but she wants revenge. Maybe she can get into the Halloween party unnoticed, but there are too many people there. Shortly after the Halloween party, Tommy accompanies Heather to the HOTs' house because he is slowly learning to be a gentleman like the MC. (He gets Heather's jacket from his room in EP8.) Since Quinn wasn't at the party, he doesn't know what costume anyone is wearing. Quinn sees someone in the dark who looks like the MC and is wearing the same statue escorting a girl to the HOT house. She thinks to herself that it can only be the MC because that would be so unlike Tommy. Maybe Tommy even wants to spend the night in Heather's room because he doesn't want to sleep under the same roof as his stepsister Josy, who is having a hot threesome in bed with Maya and the MC. Quinn sneaks into HOT's house. It's dark and Tommy walks out of the room because he has to pee. He goes into the bathroom, but leaves right away because Sage is taking a shower. He opens the door. Tommy and Quinn face each other and in fright Quinn stabs Tommy in the stomach. She realizes her mistake and flees. The noise, of course, alarms Sage, who gets out of the shower and quickly puts on at least her underwear. She sees Tommy lying on the floor bleeding and screams for help. Heather is still in her geisha costume because she wanted to do a little role-playing with Tommy. You know what I mean. Sage and Heather, more poorly than not, carry Tommy to Sage's room because it's easier uand faster to get to. They administer first aid and call an ambulance. Meanwhile, Sage holds the hand of her possible brother, Tommy.

You may notice that I've been on vacation for 2 days and don't really have much to do.

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[mindern]

My perception of Josy is different. She is not overshadowed by Maya, and Zoey differs from Josy in one important way. Josy has the most screen time of all the girls. But the most refreshing thing about Josy is that she is simple and down to earth. Just the way the MC likes it, if Zoey is to be believed. So I kind of always have in the back of my mind that Josy might have a dark secret because she's actually so normally perfect. Also, I don't see Maya's problem as Maya's problem alone. It's everyone's problem in the three-way relationship.

Josy also doesn't have a problem with showing feelings openly. That's the difference with Zoey, because Zoey has problems with that.

Quinn stands out, but for a reason. The reason? She's not an LI and she's not going to be. DPC is not going to change its story for Quinn's fans. Ergo, there probably won't be a happy ending for Quinn. The question I have about Quinn is whether she will go down alone or whether she will take someone else down with her. I imagine what might happen in DnG 2. Quinn stabs the MC. However, in EP8 we have the problem that the MC looks a lot like Tommy.

I just wrote the other day that Floyd could be the father of Tommy and Tybalt. Then Tommy would somehow also be Sage's brother and could hold her bleeding brother's hand in EP9 Preview 1. I already wrote after the preview came out that the reflection in Sage's eye would show two people. A dark haired man with a red spot in the stomach area and a geisha. Well, we know now that this can't be Riona. But a geisha is a great Halloween costume that could look good on Heather, too.

Fan Fiction:
Quinn's activities come to light. Quinn thinks it must have been the MC because he was at the meeting with the Burkes. She flees, but she wants revenge. Maybe she can get into the Halloween party unnoticed, but there are too many people there. Shortly after the Halloween party, Tommy accompanies Heather to the HOTs' house because he is slowly learning to be a gentleman like the MC. (He gets Heather's jacket from his room in EP8.) Since Quinn wasn't at the party, he doesn't know what costume anyone is wearing. Quinn sees someone in the dark who looks like the MC and is wearing the same statue escorting a girl to the HOT house. She thinks to herself that it can only be the MC because that would be so unlike Tommy. Maybe Tommy even wants to spend the night in Heather's room because he doesn't want to sleep under the same roof as his stepsister Josy, who is having a hot threesome in bed with Maya and the MC. Quinn sneaks into HOT's house. It's dark and Tommy walks out of the room because he has to pee. He goes into the bathroom, but leaves right away because Sage is taking a shower. He opens the door. Tommy and Quinn face each other and in fright Quinn stabs Tommy in the stomach. She realizes her mistake and flees. The noise, of course, alarms Sage, who gets out of the shower and quickly puts on at least her underwear. She sees Tommy lying on the floor bleeding and screams for help. Heather is still in her geisha costume because she wanted to do a little role-playing with Tommy. You know what I mean. Sage and Heather, more poorly than not, carry Tommy to Sage's room because it's easier uand faster to get to. They administer first aid and call an ambulance. Meanwhile, Sage holds the hand of her possible brother, Tommy.

You may notice that I've been on vacation for 2 days and don't really have much to do.

Fuckin'. This is what always bugged me when it came to interacting with you, why we've butted heads a few times. We have a fairly similar interpretation of the story but you're a loose cannon, you extrapolate in a way my meagre protestant heart cant quite take.

But, that aside... I'm with you in terms of Josy. She's misunderstood. She has depth people overlook and take for granted. Just because she isn't hanging her hat on some cliche and waving her arms in the air to draw attention to herself makes her "shallow".

Josy shows her personality in real ways. She comments on her relationship with the MC not by condoning a fight or playing silly buggers with him... she starts taking contraceptives. She is cognisant of her roommate when it comes to the guy shes falling for. Josy is consistently falling for the MC and changing herself to facilitate it. She isn't a bubble ready to pop and realise she loved the MC all along.

Josy isnt in anyone's shadow. She just isn't a caricature heavily tainted by "DPC Drama⁽ᵀᴹ⁾"

 

[felicemastronzo]

It is my first time seeing this; I like the part you confessed you loved Bella very much.

You obviously don't post here often....

because otherwise you would know for sure

 

[AchedCroissant]

I am a newbie; so I have no idea of your guys' preferences

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[lipe2410]

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"You broke my heart, Sombo"

 

[monkeydoodle321]

OMG. I love Bella. Gosh. I want her to breast feed me. I love her! Yummy mami, give me the milkies.

 

[Darkwen]

Interestingly, Josy looks like the perfect girl for a relationship in real life (for my taste). She is an ordinary, not rich elitist, does not drill a guy's brain, is sweet and sexy, a good girl with a twinkle. Likes good guys, but is tolerant if you're a bit of an asshole. A little. Hot and uninhibited in bed, loves experiments. Too ordinary. And I like it. I think many people want such a girlfriend or just a girl next door.

While all the girls have versions you could meet, Josy feels the closest to rl well other then dating Maya but a guy can dream.